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reply S. <nona yourabiz.com> writes:
*argh*  There must be three interfaces to this newsgroups from the website,
and all of them are terrible with the one not sucking the least being
impossible to find!

http://www.digitalmars.com links to
http://www.digitalmars.com/drn-bin/wwwnews?newsgroups=*
Which is nonfunctioning..

Then http://www.digitalmars.com/d/ links to:
http://www.digitalmars.com/pnews/indexing.php?server=news.digitalmars.com&group=digitalmars.D

Which just plain sucks badly, and doesn't seem to show all the messages.

Then I _KNOW_ there is a third one somewhere that is decent, but I can't seem
to find another link to it.  It supported threading and whatnot.

/rant
Jan 05 2007
parent reply Lutger <lutger.blijdestijn gmail.com> writes:
S. wrote:

 *argh*  There must be three interfaces to this newsgroups from the website,
 and all of them are terrible with the one not sucking the least being
 impossible to find!
 
 http://www.digitalmars.com links to
 http://www.digitalmars.com/drn-bin/wwwnews?newsgroups=*
 Which is nonfunctioning..
 
 Then http://www.digitalmars.com/d/ links to:
 http://www.digitalmars.com/pnews/indexing.php?server=news.digitalmars.com&group=digitalmars.D
 
 Which just plain sucks badly, and doesn't seem to show all the messages.
 
 Then I _KNOW_ there is a third one somewhere that is decent, but I can't seem
 to find another link to it.  It supported threading and whatnot.
 
 /rant



http://www.digitalmars.com/webnews/newsgroups.php?search_txt=&group=digitalmars.D

I agree, this one should be the default. Although a proper reader is 
better, a lot of people seem to use the web-based interface.
Jan 05 2007
parent reply Charlie <charlies nowhere.com> writes:
Lutger wrote:

 S. wrote:

 *argh*  There must be three interfaces to this newsgroups from the 
 website,
 and all of them are terrible with the one not sucking the least being
 impossible to find!

 http://www.digitalmars.com links to
 http://www.digitalmars.com/drn-bin/wwwnews?newsgroups=*
 Which is nonfunctioning..

 Then http://www.digitalmars.com/d/ links to:
 http://www.digitalmars.com/pnews/indexing.php?server=news.digitalmars.com
group=digitalmars.D 


 Which just plain sucks badly, and doesn't seem to show all the messages.

 Then I _KNOW_ there is a third one somewhere that is decent, but I 
 can't seem
 to find another link to it.  It supported threading and whatnot.

 /rant



 http://www.digitalmars.com/webnews/newsgroups.php?search_txt=
group=digitalmars.D 
 
 
 I agree, this one should be the default. Although a proper reader is 
 better, a lot of people seem to use the web-based interface.






 





Yes this is the good one, I can never find this one though, where did 
you find a link to it ?

Charlie
Jan 05 2007
parent reply Oskar Linde <oskar.lindeREM OVEgmail.com> writes:
To add to the multitude of options, here is a quick hack I threw together. I
never
intended for this to become a web news reader interface though. :) The software
is
of course written in D. Currently, it only works really well in firefox:

http://www.csc.kth.se/~ol/news/

Could this be worth pursuing?

--
Oskar
Jan 05 2007
next sibling parent reply Johan Granberg <lijat.meREM OVE.gmail.com> writes:
Oskar Linde wrote:


 Currently, it only works really
 well in firefox:



Not true it works perfectly fine in konqueror and safari to.


 Could this be worth pursuing?
 
 --
 Oskar



Yes deffinatly, this is the best webinterface I have seen for newsgroups
(althrough my knowledge of webbased newsreader is quite limited).

ps. I did not see any posting mechanism is this because none is there or
because of broken webbrowsers.
Jan 05 2007
parent Oskar Linde <oskar.lindeREM OVEgmail.com> writes:
Johan Granberg wrote:

 Oskar Linde wrote:
 

 Currently, it only works really
 well in firefox:



 Not true it works perfectly fine in konqueror and safari to.



Except that it doesn't mark read articles correctly.


 ps. I did not see any posting mechanism is this because none is there or
 because of broken webbrowsers.



There is none. (It should not be very hard to write one though.)

/Oskar
Jan 08 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent Lutger <lutger.blijdestijn gmail.com> writes:
Oskar Linde wrote:

 To add to the multitude of options, here is a quick hack I threw together. I
never
 intended for this to become a web news reader interface though. :) The
software is
 of course written in D. Currently, it only works really well in firefox:
 
 http://www.csc.kth.se/~ol/news/
 
 Could this be worth pursuing?
 
 --
 Oskar
 
 



Well yes I think so. It looks good and is easy to use. I like it.
Jan 05 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Charlie <charlies nowhere.com> writes:
Oskar Linde wrote:

 To add to the multitude of options, here is a quick hack I threw together. I
never
 intended for this to become a web news reader interface though. :) The
software is
 of course written in D. Currently, it only works really well in firefox:
 
 http://www.csc.kth.se/~ol/news/
 
 Could this be worth pursuing?
 
 --
 Oskar
 
 



It does look good, ands its much faster than any of the other web based 
newsreaders. Only thing I would change is the font ;).

Charlie
Jan 06 2007
parent Oskar Linde <oskar.lindeREM OVEgmail.com> writes:
Charlie wrote:

 Oskar Linde wrote:

 http://www.csc.kth.se/~ol/news/

 Could this be worth pursuing?



 It does look good, ands its much faster than any of the other web based 
 newsreaders. Only thing I would change is the font ;).



So why don't you? It uses your default selected font. Don't blame me if 
it is ugly. ;)

More seriously, if there is anything I know less about than HTML/CSS, it 
is graphical design. All help is appreciated.

/Oskar
Jan 08 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent vtp <vanh dslextreme.com> writes:
Oskar Linde Wrote:


 To add to the multitude of options, here is a quick hack I threw together. I
never
 intended for this to become a web news reader interface though. :) The
software is
 of course written in D. Currently, it only works really well in firefox:
 
 http://www.csc.kth.se/~ol/news/
 
 Could this be worth pursuing?
 
 --
 Oskar
 
 



Please do.

vtp
Jan 06 2007
prev sibling parent reply Daniel Keep <daniel.keep+lists gmail.com> writes:
Oskar Linde wrote:

 To add to the multitude of options, here is a quick hack I threw together. I
never
 intended for this to become a web news reader interface though. :) The
software is
 of course written in D. Currently, it only works really well in firefox:
 
 http://www.csc.kth.se/~ol/news/
 
 Could this be worth pursuing?
 
 --
 Oskar
 



Bug: if you look at my reply to BCS's post "Ping: Daniel Keep", your 
reader eats all the text after "<excuses>".

Also, it's putting newer stuff down the bottom.  You have no idea how 
much that bugs me.

Apart from those two things, it's very nice.  Quick and simple.  I like :)

What's that make?  Five ways to read the newsgroups? :P

	-- Daniel
Jan 07 2007
parent reply Oskar Linde <oskar.lindeREM OVEgmail.com> writes:
Daniel Keep wrote:

 Oskar Linde wrote:

 To add to the multitude of options, here is a quick hack I threw 
 together. I never
 intended for this to become a web news reader interface though. :) The 
 software is
 of course written in D. Currently, it only works really well in firefox:

 http://www.csc.kth.se/~ol/news/

 Could this be worth pursuing?

 -- 
 Oskar



 Bug: if you look at my reply to BCS's post "Ping: Daniel Keep", your 
 reader eats all the text after "<excuses>".



Fixed.


 Also, it's putting newer stuff down the bottom.  You have no idea how 
 much that bugs me.



No, I had no idea people preferred it that way. I have changed the 
default to put the most recent threads on the top instead, but within 
the threads, the most recent article still ends up at the bottom. Is 
that better or should the thread tree be inverted too? Maybe up side 
down too?


 Apart from those two things, it's very nice.  Quick and simple.  I like :)



Thanks everyone for the positive criticism. I will go ahead and add the 
missing functionality:

- posting interface,
- proper Mime handling:
   o multipart messages
   o non "text/plain" parts
   o character sets other than latin1 and utf8
   o base64 and uuencoded attachement,
- a search interface (the original plan),
- and some more of this ever so fun browser compatibility work.

/Oskar
Jan 08 2007
parent Joel Lucsy <jjlucsy gmail.com> writes:
Oskar Linde wrote:

 http://www.csc.kth.se/~ol/news/









Any chance this thing will be made publicly available? I'd love to be 
able to run this locally and access my newsgroups thru a browser.

-- 
Joel Lucsy
"The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program." 
-- Larry Niven
Jan 08 2007