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digitalmars.D - Walter, hope you're doing ok.

reply Bill Baxter <wbaxter gmail.com> writes:
Almost a week and no posts.  Hope you're doing OK there.  Must have been 
quite a storm.

--bb
Dec 19 2006
next sibling parent BCS <BCS pathilink.com> writes:
Bill Baxter wrote:
 Almost a week and no posts.  Hope you're doing OK there.  Must have been 
 quite a storm.
 
 --bb

I hope he is just to busy slaughtering bugs and adjusting features. 1.0 is less than 2 weeks off <g>. Yeah. I to hope he's OK.
Dec 19 2006
prev sibling parent reply Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> writes:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006, Bill Baxter wrote:

 Almost a week and no posts.  Hope you're doing OK there.  Must have been 
 quite a storm.
 
 --bb

I haven't talked with Walter, but I do know that his area of town is still without power. The estimates I saw were for wednesday or thursday to get the high power lines repaired. Later, Brad
Dec 19 2006
next sibling parent reply Chris Nicholson-Sauls <ibisbasenji gmail.com> writes:
Brad Roberts wrote:
 On Wed, 20 Dec 2006, Bill Baxter wrote:
 
 Almost a week and no posts.  Hope you're doing OK there.  Must have been 
 quite a storm.

 --bb

I haven't talked with Walter, but I do know that his area of town is still without power. The estimates I saw were for wednesday or thursday to get the high power lines repaired. Later, Brad

Maybe with this in mind we should encourage pushing the D/1.0 release out of January and into February. Hard to release something on time when you can't really work on it. :) -- Chris Nicholson-Sauls
Dec 20 2006
next sibling parent BCS <BCS pathilink.com> writes:
Chris Nicholson-Sauls wrote:
 
 Maybe with this in mind we should encourage pushing the D/1.0 release 
 out of January and into February.  Hard to release something on time 
 when you can't really work on it.  :)
 
 -- Chris Nicholson-Sauls

Jan 1 was a bit arbitrary to begin with. So unless W doesn't have power back by x-mas or later, I don't think it makes much difference.
Dec 20 2006
prev sibling parent "Chris Miller" <chris dprogramming.com> writes:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:32:31 -0500, Chris Nicholson-Sauls  
<ibisbasenji gmail.com> wrote:

  I haven't talked with Walter, but I do know that his area of town is  
 still without power.  The estimates I saw were for wednesday or  
 thursday to get the high power lines repaired.
  Later,
 Brad

Maybe with this in mind we should encourage pushing the D/1.0 release out of January and into February. Hard to release something on time when you can't really work on it. :)

I'm perfectly fine with postponing the release date; releases are postponed all the time. For those who wanted to get things done before 1.0 but actually ran out of time would have a chance at it and now realize the actual time needed. - Chris
Dec 21 2006
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Dave <Dave_member pathlink.com> writes:
Brad Roberts wrote:
 On Wed, 20 Dec 2006, Bill Baxter wrote:
 
 Almost a week and no posts.  Hope you're doing OK there.  Must have been 
 quite a storm.

 --bb

I haven't talked with Walter, but I do know that his area of town is still without power. The estimates I saw were for wednesday or thursday to get the high power lines repaired. Later, Brad

Probably holed up in a ski lodge somewhere plugging away at 0.178 on a laptop, thinking "Ahhh, don't have to read those annoying 'personality suggestions' on digitalmars.D until they get the power fixed" <g> At least, I hope that's what it is anyhow :)
Dec 21 2006
parent reply "John Reimer" <terminal.node gmail.com> writes:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:13:38 -0800, Dave <Dave_member pathlink.com> wrote:

 Brad Roberts wrote:
 On Wed, 20 Dec 2006, Bill Baxter wrote:

 Almost a week and no posts.  Hope you're doing OK there.  Must have  
 been quite a storm.

 --bb

still without power. The estimates I saw were for wednesday or thursday to get the high power lines repaired. Later, Brad

Probably holed up in a ski lodge somewhere plugging away at 0.178 on a laptop, thinking "Ahhh, don't have to read those annoying 'personality suggestions' on digitalmars.D until they get the power fixed" <g> At least, I hope that's what it is anyhow :)

He'd be smart man! I'm sure he would be much more productive because of it. :D -JJR
Dec 21 2006
parent reply renoX <renosky free.fr> writes:
John Reimer a écrit :
 On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:13:38 -0800, Dave <Dave_member pathlink.com> wrote:
 Brad Roberts wrote:


 Probably holed up in a ski lodge somewhere plugging away at 0.178 on a 
 laptop, thinking "Ahhh, don't have to read those annoying 'personality 
 suggestions' on digitalmars.D until they get the power fixed" <g>

 At least, I hope that's what it is anyhow :)

He'd be smart man! I'm sure he would be much more productive because of it.

Well without power, the battery would last only so long, so it's not so sure.. Maybe an OLPC would be useful ;-) renoX
Dec 21 2006
parent BCS <BCS pathilink.com> writes:
renoX wrote:
 John Reimer a écrit :
 On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:13:38 -0800, Dave <Dave_member pathlink.com> 
 wrote:
 Brad Roberts wrote:



 Probably holed up in a ski lodge somewhere 


Well without power, the battery would last only so long, so it's not so sure.. Maybe an OLPC would be useful ;-) renoX

IIRC Seattle doesn't have any ski lodges and most of the rest of the north wast has power. <G>
Dec 21 2006
prev sibling parent reply Walter Bright <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:
Brad Roberts wrote:
 I haven't talked with Walter, but I do know that his area of town is still 
 without power.  The estimates I saw were for wednesday or thursday to get 
 the high power lines repaired.

I often went out jogging and would stop and yak with the powerline repairmen. I learned a lot about how the high tension wires work that way. I wouldn't want their job, though, those guys worked 17 hours on, 7 off, and they stay working till everyone is up. They said they'd be working through New Year's. Fun fact: I asked them what they did about idiot homeowners who plugged generators into their home circuits, thus energizing the main power lines and putting the linemens' lives at risk. The guy laughed and said they clamped all the lines to ground before working on them, shorting out those generators. Serve's 'em right! Not so fun fact: Numerous people died because they either brought their generator or charcoal grill inside. You'll poison yourself even running the generator in the garage with the garage door wide open. It got so bad that the newspaper ran front page headlines warning people about this.
Dec 22 2006
parent reply Georg Wrede <georg.wrede nospam.org> writes:
Walter Bright wrote:
 Brad Roberts wrote:
 
 Not so fun fact: Numerous people died because they either brought their 
 generator or charcoal grill inside. You'll poison yourself even running 
 the generator in the garage with the garage door wide open. It got so 
 bad that the newspaper ran front page headlines warning people about this.

With a judicial system that espouses random transfers of fortunes (the words Punitive, Starbuck's coffee mug, and car mirror text come to mind), every generator will have to carry a prominent tag that says "don't ever use this, especially if you need to". Not that it helps, I bet every charcoal grill already boasted a tag that says "not for indoor use". I think the worst possible combination of personality traits is an enterprising attitude combined with profound ignorance. OTOH, if these morons didn't get pruned every once in a while, the average IQ of mankind today would be about 20. Mother Nature does Eugenics for us, sparing us the moral conundrums.
Dec 23 2006
next sibling parent Walter Bright <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:
Georg Wrede wrote:
 Not that it helps, I bet every charcoal grill already boasted a tag that 
 says "not for indoor use".

The generators certainly do. Mine has a prominent sticker on it warning about the problem. But even smart people often do monumentally stupid things. I was once watching the drag racing TV show "Pinks". A kid was driving a hopped up VW bug. He had too much power in it for the suspension, and was clearly having difficulty keeping it straight on the track. For some reason I forgot, the race was suspended for a couple weeks. The kid comes back, and this time the bug has a roll cage installed. He said his mother wouldn't let him race anymore without one. So off he goes down the track, still unable to keep the car straight. An axle snapped, and the car veered hard left and smashed into the rails, rolling and disintegrating into a million pieces. The crew and audience were all going "oh gawd, no." So the camera crew rushes up, and there is the kid, still sitting in the cage (the rest of the car was pretty much gone), badly shaken up but unhurt. Sometimes, your momma is right! But the kid still made a rookie mistake, adding lots of power but failing to upgrade the suspension and drive train to take it. And I think the track operators should have booted his car off the track after that first out-of-control pass.
Dec 23 2006
prev sibling next sibling parent reply %Wolven <rma wolven.net> writes:
== Quote from Georg Wrede (georg.wrede nospam.org)'s article
 Walter Bright wrote:
 Brad Roberts wrote:

 Not so fun fact: Numerous people died because they either brought their
 generator or charcoal grill inside. You'll poison yourself even running
 the generator in the garage with the garage door wide open. It got so
 bad that the newspaper ran front page headlines warning people about this.


 OTOH, if these morons didn't get pruned every once in a while, the
 average IQ of mankind today would be about 20. Mother Nature does
 Eugenics for us, sparing us the moral conundrums.

Unfortunately, Mother Nature hasn't been pruning anywhere near fast enough in the U.S. for many decades... :) and now the morons are overwhelming our entire social system. Hence the NEED for the front page headlines mentioned above. I have noticed that the morons tend to prefer huddling in masses, particularly in and around large coastal cities, like the Seattle area. <g> That fact gives those of us on the other side of the hills (Wenatchee) hope that Mt. Rainier might really blow and do a bunch of "pruning" all at once... ;) Of course, I sincerely hope Walter would be bright enough to escape the shears. P.S. (I hope everyone recognizes that all of the above was said with tongue firmly in cheek.)
Dec 23 2006
parent Georg Wrede <georg.wrede nospam.org> writes:
%Wolven wrote:
 == Quote from Georg Wrede (georg.wrede nospam.org)'s article
Walter Bright wrote:
Not so fun fact: Numerous people died because they either brought their
generator or charcoal grill inside. You'll poison yourself even running
the generator in the garage with the garage door wide open. It got so
bad that the newspaper ran front page headlines warning people about this.


OTOH, if these morons didn't get pruned every once in a while, the
average IQ of mankind today would be about 20. Mother Nature does
Eugenics for us, sparing us the moral conundrums.

Unfortunately, Mother Nature hasn't been pruning anywhere near fast enough in the U.S. for many decades... :) and now the morons are overwhelming our entire social system. Hence the NEED for the front page headlines mentioned above. I have noticed that the morons tend to prefer huddling in masses, particularly in and around large coastal cities, like the Seattle area. <g> That fact gives those of us on the other side of the hills (Wenatchee) hope that Mt. Rainier might really blow and do a bunch of "pruning" all at once... ;) Of course, I sincerely hope Walter would be bright enough to escape the shears. P.S. (I hope everyone recognizes that all of the above was said with tongue firmly in cheek.)

Well, at least it was funnier than mine! :-)
Dec 23 2006
prev sibling next sibling parent Burton Radons <burton-radons smocky.com> writes:
Georg Wrede wrote:
 Walter Bright wrote:
 Brad Roberts wrote:

 Not so fun fact: Numerous people died because they either brought 
 their generator or charcoal grill inside. You'll poison yourself even 
 running the generator in the garage with the garage door wide open. It 
 got so bad that the newspaper ran front page headlines warning people 
 about this.

With a judicial system that espouses random transfers of fortunes (the words Punitive, Starbuck's coffee mug, and car mirror text come to mind), every generator will have to carry a prominent tag that says "don't ever use this, especially if you need to".

As far as I know warning signs have no effect on potential for litigation. If you put out a live wire and have a sign saying "don't touch this wire it's live and you'll die" and someone touches it, their family can still sue you successfully for making a public hazard in the first place. So I think warning signs are put there simply because companies don't want their customers to be hurt. There really aren't that many sociopaths around.
 Not that it helps, I bet every charcoal grill already boasted a tag that 
 says "not for indoor use".
 
 I think the worst possible combination of personality traits is an 
 enterprising attitude combined with profound ignorance.
 
 OTOH, if these morons didn't get pruned every once in a while, the 
 average IQ of mankind today would be about 20. Mother Nature does 
 Eugenics for us, sparing us the moral conundrums.

I don't see much evidence that intelligence is a matter of genetics. I know a lot of smart children of stupid people and vice versa; like sexual preference it seems to be a massively-complex cog of womb, early-life, and explorational experiences. Smart children might be a somewhat more common product of smart parents, but I'd be willing to wager that that's because they're presented with stimulating materials early on (which they might or might not latch onto) rather than due to some kind of smart gene. If there were a correlation, you'd expect that the most extraordinary thinkers would have exclusively come from extraordinary thinkers (since random mutations wouldn't cause such drastic and beneficial differences), but that's not how it's played out. Isaac Newton was the son of a farmer, for example. Albert Einstein was the son of a salesman. That their parents were moderately successful for their time (which might or might not be a sign of strong intelligence) might be seen as a precondition for them receiving the education their children needed to reach their potential. In such a pseudo-randomised situation smart people will always tend to congregate and build on one another, and our duty is to make sure that pre-existing social conditions don't become the limit to a person's intellectual potential. That's not really helped by having a "snobs versus slobs" mentality, which you're not expressing here but is a very common consequence of this train of thought.
Dec 23 2006
prev sibling parent Kevin Bealer <kevinbealer gmail.com> writes:
== Quote from Georg Wrede (georg.wrede nospam.org)'s article
 Walter Bright wrote:
 Brad Roberts wrote:

 Not so fun fact: Numerous people died because they either brought their
 generator or charcoal grill inside. You'll poison yourself even running
 the generator in the garage with the garage door wide open. It got so
 bad that the newspaper ran front page headlines warning people about this.


 I think the worst possible combination of personality traits is an
 enterprising attitude combined with profound ignorance.
 OTOH, if these morons didn't get pruned every once in a while, the
 average IQ of mankind today would be about 20. Mother Nature does
 Eugenics for us, sparing us the moral conundrums.

That might be, but education is probably more to blame than IQ, and selection doesn't stop at the individual level. Individuals that lack sense get pruned by nature. But societies that lack compassion and respect for human life, are destroyed or turned into bonzai varieties by a much larger gardening process. If a house that is divided will fall, what happens when a society divides itself? I can think of a lot of dumb things I've done that almost got *me* pruned, so I say if you can print a warning about charcoal burners in the paper, do it. It might saves lives, and these days printed newspapers are in need of good reasons to justify their own survival. Kevin
Dec 26 2006