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reply Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> writes:
http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html

--bb
Feb 22 2007
next sibling parent reply "Andrei Alexandrescu (See Website For Email)" <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
Bill Baxter wrote:

 http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html



Rate it high! And if anyone tells me how the heck I can make sound in 
Ubuntu Flash work, please let me know!

Andrei
Feb 22 2007
next sibling parent reply Thomas Brix Larsen <brix brix-verden.dk> writes:
Andrei Alexandrescu (See Website For Email) wrote:


 Bill Baxter wrote:

 http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html



 Rate it high! And if anyone tells me how the heck I can make sound in
 Ubuntu Flash work, please let me know!
 
 Andrei



I don't know how to make sound in flash work :(

But you can open the video in an external player (with sound), by clicking
the "this link" in the right side, below download, and simply telling your
videoplayer to stream it.

- Brix
Feb 23 2007
parent reply kenny <funisher gmail.com> writes:
Thomas Brix Larsen wrote:

 Andrei Alexandrescu (See Website For Email) wrote:
 

 Bill Baxter wrote:

 http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html



 Ubuntu Flash work, please let me know!

 Andrei



 I don't know how to make sound in flash work :(
 
 But you can open the video in an external player (with sound), by clicking
 the "this link" in the right side, below download, and simply telling your
 videoplayer to stream it.
 
 - Brix
 



I don't know about ubuntu, but in gentoo, flash sound wouldn't work while I was
using flash 7. I upgraded to netscape-flash-9 and everything is hunky dory now.
The problem is, your sound device is being used by something else (lsof | grep
/dev/snd). It's because the old flash used oss, I think, and the new one uses
alsa.
Feb 23 2007
parent Michiel <nomail please.com> writes:
kenny wrote:


 I don't know about ubuntu, but in gentoo, flash sound wouldn't
 work while I was using flash 7. I upgraded to netscape-flash-9 and
 everything is hunky dory now. The problem is, your sound device is
 being used by something else (lsof | grep /dev/snd). It's because the
 old flash used oss, I think, and the new one uses alsa.



I wish I could say the same. I run Gentoo and can't get any sound out of
Firefox. I already upgraded to netscape-flash-9. I enabled ALSA support
and OSS support in the kernel, installed alsa-oss... I'm out of ideas.

-- 
Michiel
Feb 23 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Frits van Bommel <fvbommel REMwOVExCAPSs.nl> writes:
Andrei Alexandrescu (See Website For Email) wrote:

 Bill Baxter wrote:

 http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html



 Rate it high! And if anyone tells me how the heck I can make sound in 
 Ubuntu Flash work, please let me know!



According to the Ubuntu wiki (at 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash):
* Install the alsa-oss package
* Make sure your /etc/firefox/firefoxrc has 'FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"'

Worked for me.
Feb 23 2007
parent reply "Andrei Alexandrescu (See Website For Email)" <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
Frits van Bommel wrote:

 Andrei Alexandrescu (See Website For Email) wrote:

 Bill Baxter wrote:

 http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html



 Rate it high! And if anyone tells me how the heck I can make sound in 
 Ubuntu Flash work, please let me know!



 According to the Ubuntu wiki (at 
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash):
 * Install the alsa-oss package
 * Make sure your /etc/firefox/firefoxrc has 'FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"'
 
 Worked for me.



Thanks; didn't work, but the link suggests a couple of other leads.

Andrei
Feb 23 2007
parent Frits van Bommel <fvbommel REMwOVExCAPSs.nl> writes:
Andrei Alexandrescu (See Website For Email) wrote:

 Frits van Bommel wrote:

 Andrei Alexandrescu (See Website For Email) wrote:

 Bill Baxter wrote:

 http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html



 Rate it high! And if anyone tells me how the heck I can make sound in 
 Ubuntu Flash work, please let me know!



 According to the Ubuntu wiki (at 
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash):
 * Install the alsa-oss package
 * Make sure your /etc/firefox/firefoxrc has 'FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"'

 Worked for me.



 Thanks; didn't work, but the link suggests a couple of other leads.



I'm still pretty sure that worked for me when I was running 32-bit 
Ubuntu (Edgy).
I'm now running 64-bit Edgy, and hadn't reinstalled it yet. So I tried 
to do so to watch this video and this time couldn't get sound to work 
with Flash 7. But the instructions at 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava said to install 
Flash 9, which fixed it.
Feb 23 2007
prev sibling parent reply =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Julio_C=E9sar_Carrascal_Urquijo?= writes:
Or you can download the high resolution .AVI (~420MB) from this URL:

http://vp.video.google.com/videodownload?version=0&secureurl=uAAAAPcTXZinkTFdiNOL1yUNVz92yMYl-OzjmKcPJ8vNgdw9sMdIr2g6y2Ei7quMbboeDXpAwC0afLWTn7qOJwy8cDGFV91Q9GcgL3-O8lQinn1ECitMjtoF6PJvtwNvTe40aD9DSzQD-43EACAit7V8RjJmXHCKyuR_mGnqt9S9rnA9qctwuOm7XrA_8amI2F7WS8juEw3V37NEAGSFQejwvux2ZL7_MUA9xEblyn4IytCZCcnGjSXc6x3RcthrtegbUg&sigh=30lC2aogITg_AdgHSPukYOCLAME&begin=0&len=5006735&docid=-7073020265668105471


Andrei Alexandrescu (See Website For Email) wrote:

 Rate it high! And if anyone tells me how the heck I can make sound in 
 Ubuntu Flash work, please let me know!
 
 Andrei
Feb 23 2007
next sibling parent "Andrei Alexandrescu (See Website For Email)" <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
Julio César Carrascal Urquijo wrote:

 Or you can download the high resolution .AVI (~420MB) from this URL:
 
 http://vp.video.google.com/videodownload?version=0&secureurl=uAAAAPcTXZinkTFdiNOL1yUNVz92yMYl-OzjmKcPJ8vNgdw9sMdIr2g6y2Ei7quMbboeDXpAwC0afLWTn7qOJwy8cDGFV91Q9GcgL3-O8lQinn1ECitMjtoF6PJvtwNvTe40aD9DSzQD-43EACAit7V8RjJmXHCKyuR_mGnqt9S9rnA9qctwuOm7XrA_8amI2F7WS8juEw3V37NEAGSFQejwvux2ZL7_MUA9xEblyn4IytCZCcnGjSXc6x3RcthrtegbUg&sigh=30lC2aogITg_AdgHSPukYOCLAME&begin=0&len=5006735&docid=
7073020265668105471 
 
 
 
 Andrei Alexandrescu (See Website For Email) wrote:

 Rate it high! And if anyone tells me how the heck I can make sound in 
 Ubuntu Flash work, please let me know!

 Andrei






Thanks! I was there so the question was more about getting Flash to work 
in Ubuntu, than about getting the video itself :o).

Anyhow, the hi-res thing is great because it makes the slides clearer.


Andrei
Feb 23 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Sean Kelly <sean f4.ca> writes:
Julio César Carrascal Urquijo wrote:

 Or you can download the high resolution .AVI (~420MB) from this URL:
 
 http://vp.video.google.com/videodownload?version=0&secureurl=uAAAAPcTXZinkTFdiNOL1yUNVz92yMYl-OzjmKcPJ8vNgdw9sMdIr2g6y2Ei7quMbboeDXpAwC0afLWTn7qOJwy8cDGFV91Q9GcgL3-O8lQinn1ECitMjtoF6PJvtwNvTe40aD9DSzQD-43EACAit7V8RjJmXHCKyuR_mGnqt9S9rnA9qctwuOm7XrA_8amI2F7WS8juEw3V37NEAGSFQejwvux2ZL7_MUA9xEblyn4IytCZCcnGjSXc6x3RcthrtegbUg&sigh=30lC2aogITg_AdgHSPukYOCLAME&begin=0&len=5006735&docid=
7073020265668105471 



That video is in MPEG-3 format and I'll be darned if I can find a codec 
for it.
Feb 23 2007
parent =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Julio_C=E9sar_Carrascal_Urquijo?= writes:
Sean Kelly wrote:

 Julio César Carrascal Urquijo wrote:

 Or you can download the high resolution .AVI (~420MB) from this URL:

 http://vp.video.google.com/videodownload?version=0&secureurl=uAAAAPcTXZinkTFdiNOL1yUNVz92yMYl-OzjmKcPJ8vNgdw9sMdIr2g6y2Ei7quMbboeDXpAwC0afLWTn7qOJwy8cDGFV91Q9GcgL3-O8lQinn1ECitMjtoF6PJvtwNvTe40aD9DSzQD-43EACAit7V8RjJmXHCKyuR_mGnqt9S9rnA9qctwuOm7XrA_8amI2F7WS8juEw3V37NEAGSFQejwvux2ZL7_MUA9xEblyn4IytCZCcnGjSXc6x3RcthrtegbUg&sigh=30lC2aogITg_AdgHSPukYOCLAME&begin=0&len=5006735&docid=
7073020265668105471 



 
 That video is in MPEG-3 format and I'll be darned if I can find a codec 
 for it.




If you are using Windows or Linux try MPlayer (http://mplayerhq.hu/); It 
works without installing codecs on the OS.

On Mac I've had better experiences with VLC (http://videolan.com).
Feb 23 2007
prev sibling parent Mark Wrenn <mark-nospam binarytheory.com> writes:
Julio César Carrascal Urquijo wrote:

 Or you can download the high resolution .AVI (~420MB) from this URL:
 
 http://vp.video.google.com/videodownload?version=0&secureurl=uAAAAPcTXZinkTFdiNOL1yUNVz92yMYl-OzjmKcPJ8vNgdw9sMdIr2g6y2Ei7quMbboeDXpAwC0afLWTn7qOJwy8cDGFV91Q9GcgL3-O8lQinn1ECitMjtoF6PJvtwNvTe40aD9DSzQD-43EACAit7V8RjJmXHCKyuR_mGnqt9S9rnA9qctwuOm7XrA_8amI2F7WS8juEw3V37NEAGSFQejwvux2ZL7_MUA9xEblyn4IytCZCcnGjSXc6x3RcthrtegbUg&sigh=30lC2aogITg_AdgHSPukYOCLAME&begin=0&len=5006735&docid=
7073020265668105471 
 
 
 
 Andrei Alexandrescu (See Website For Email) wrote:

 Rate it high! And if anyone tells me how the heck I can make sound in 
 Ubuntu Flash work, please let me know!

 Andrei






I was able to view this AVI on Windows using the DivX codec.  Standard 
Window Media Player and QuickTime didn't work.

http://www.divx.com/divx/windows/download/

Mark
Feb 23 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Carlos Smith" <carlos-smith sympatico.ca> writes:
"Bill Baxter" <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> wrote in message 
news:erlkhd$b03$1 digitalmars.com...
: http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html
:
: --bb

Thanks a lot for putting this online !
This is a great idea.

I now feel like Walter is a friend.
Strange.

I think this may help the D cause.

-- CS
Feb 22 2007
parent Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> writes:
Carlos Smith wrote:

 "Bill Baxter" <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> wrote in message 
 news:erlkhd$b03$1 digitalmars.com...
 : http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html
 :
 : --bb
 
 Thanks a lot for putting this online !
 This is a great idea.
 
 I now feel like Walter is a friend.
 Strange.
 
 I think this may help the D cause.
 
 -- CS
 



Sorry if my terseness created confusion -- I didn't put it online.
It's from these folks:
    http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html

--bb
Feb 22 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "ideage" <lsina 126.com> writes:
Thanks!  But  Google Video isn's available in china!

Why send the video link to be download?

"Bill Baxter" <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> 
??????:erlkhd$b03$1 digitalmars.com...


 http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html

 --bb
Feb 22 2007
parent Tyler Knott <tywebmail mailcity.com> writes:
ideage wrote:

 Thanks!  But  Google Video isn's available in china!
 
 Why send the video link to be download?
 
 "Bill Baxter" <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> 
 ??????:erlkhd$b03$1 digitalmars.com...
 

 http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html

 --bb 



 



http://mrradar.dreamhosters.com/public/Walter_Bright.mp4

It's 236 megs and in the .mp4 format which you can use Quicktime to play.
Feb 22 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent reply janderson <askme me.com> writes:
Bill Baxter wrote:

 http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html
 
 --bb



This is great.  Not to complain however I wish the slide text in the 
video was more readable.  It will probably confuse people who haven't 
seen D syntax before.  Although Walter does a good job of walking though it.

-Joel
Feb 22 2007
next sibling parent Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> writes:
janderson wrote:

 Bill Baxter wrote:

 http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html

 --bb



 This is great.  Not to complain however I wish the slide text in the 
 video was more readable.  It will probably confuse people who haven't 
 seen D syntax before.  Although Walter does a good job of walking though 
 it.



It's perfectly legible if you follow along in the slides that are also 
linked from that site :-)  But people just getting the link to the video 
won't see that...

Hmm, I tried to add some links directly to the Google vid page but I 
think I may have made a booboo.  I tried to add links as 'tags'.  I 
guess that's not what tags are for.  There's no way to remove it either 
other than to mark the links as "spam" which they aren't really, and I 
would hate for nwcpp.org to get blacklisted by google as a spam website.

Added to a comment also, but links in comments aren't clickable, which 
seems a shame.
Too bad the nwcpp.org people didn't just make the link on the slide 
point to the specific talk page rather than the general home page.

--bb
Feb 22 2007
prev sibling parent reply Walter Bright <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:
janderson wrote:

 Bill Baxter wrote:

 http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html

 --bb



 This is great.  Not to complain however I wish the slide text in the 
 video was more readable.  It will probably confuse people who haven't 
 seen D syntax before.  Although Walter does a good job of walking though 
 it.



The slide text is on a separate url: 
http://www.nwcpp.org/Downloads/2007/AdvancedD/index.html
Feb 23 2007
parent reply janderson <askme me.com> writes:
Walter Bright wrote:

 janderson wrote:

 Bill Baxter wrote:

 http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html

 --bb



 This is great.  Not to complain however I wish the slide text in the 
 video was more readable.  It will probably confuse people who haven't 
 seen D syntax before.  Although Walter does a good job of walking 
 though it.



 The slide text is on a separate url: 
 http://www.nwcpp.org/Downloads/2007/AdvancedD/index.html
 



Cheers, I did see that.  However as Baxter pointed out, google users 
won't be able find it easily.

-Joel
Feb 23 2007
parent Frits van Bommel <fvbommel REMwOVExCAPSs.nl> writes:
janderson wrote:

 [...] google users 
 won't be able find it easily.



That's just crazy talk :P.

First hit on the search for "Walter Bright   NWCPP: Advanced D 
Programming Language Features" (the title of the video) is the page at 
nwcpp.org on the talk, which has the link to the slides at the bottom.

The search, for the lazy: 
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Walter+Bright+%40+NWCPP%3A+Advanced+D+Programming+Language+Features&btnG=Search

Just because it could have been even *easier* doesn't mean it's not 
easily found.

This does require them to actually *look* for it, though...
Feb 23 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Jarrett Billingsley" <kb3ctd2 yahoo.com> writes:
"Bill Baxter" <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> wrote in message 
news:erlkhd$b03$1 digitalmars.com...

 http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html

 --bb



Mental image of Walter _shattered_!  Don't know why, but totally didn't 
expect him to look like that.
Feb 23 2007
next sibling parent reply Frits van Bommel <fvbommel REMwOVExCAPSs.nl> writes:
Jarrett Billingsley wrote:

 "Bill Baxter" <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> wrote in message 
 news:erlkhd$b03$1 digitalmars.com...

 http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html



 Mental image of Walter _shattered_!  Don't know why, but totally didn't 
 expect him to look like that. 



You're not the only one.
Feb 23 2007
parent reply torhu <fake address.dude> writes:
Frits van Bommel wrote:

 Jarrett Billingsley wrote:

 "Bill Baxter" <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> wrote in message 
 news:erlkhd$b03$1 digitalmars.com...

 http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html



 Mental image of Walter _shattered_!  Don't know why, but totally didn't 
 expect him to look like that. 



 You're not the only one.



He looks so damn...normal.  At least if you expected Doc Brown from Back 
to the Future. :p
Feb 23 2007
parent Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> writes:
torhu wrote:

 Frits van Bommel wrote:

 Jarrett Billingsley wrote:

 "Bill Baxter" <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> wrote in message 
 news:erlkhd$b03$1 digitalmars.com...

 http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html



 Mental image of Walter _shattered_!  Don't know why, but totally 
 didn't expect him to look like that. 



 You're not the only one.



 He looks so damn...normal.  At least if you expected Doc Brown from Back 
 to the Future. :p



Or something a little more Richard Stallman.  :-)

--bb
Feb 23 2007
prev sibling parent BCS <BCS pathlink.com> writes:
Jarrett Billingsley wrote:

 "Bill Baxter" <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> wrote in message 
 news:erlkhd$b03$1 digitalmars.com...
 

http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html

--bb



 
 Mental image of Walter _shattered_!  Don't know why, but totally didn't 
 expect him to look like that. 
 
 



I've been looking for a face to go with the name for some time. <g>
Feb 23 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Pragma <ericanderton yahoo.removeme.com> writes:
Bill Baxter wrote:

 http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html
 
 --bb



Awesome.  Solid presentation, although the facts stand for themselves, Walter
could stand to give it a bit more flair. 
He's the guy that created it after all - he should be *excited* to show it off
(IMO).

My question: what the heck is that guy in the front row /eating/?  Cheetos
perhaps?

-- 
- EricAnderton at yahoo
Feb 23 2007
parent reply DBLoke <DBloke Nowhere.eu> writes:
 My question: what the heck is that guy in the front row /eating/?  
 Cheetos perhaps?
Feb 23 2007
parent reply Charlie <charlie.fats gmail.com> writes:
DBLoke wrote:

 My question: what the heck is that guy in the front row /eating/?  
 Cheetos perhaps?






Looked like pizza to me.   Mmmm pizza.
Feb 23 2007
next sibling parent reply Pragma <ericanderton yahoo.removeme.com> writes:
Alexander Panek wrote:

 On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:20:03 -0600
 Charlie <charlie.fats gmail.com> wrote:
 

 DBLoke wrote:

 My question: what the heck is that guy in the front row /eating/?  
 Cheetos perhaps?









 
 Definitely pizza.
 
 Ad hair: Hey, I've got such a "ponytail", too! 



Same here. :/

-- 
- EricAnderton at yahoo
Feb 23 2007
next sibling parent reply mike <vertex gmx.at> writes:
Am 23.02.2007, 18:57 Uhr, schrieb Pragma <ericanderton yahoo.removeme.co=
m>:


 Alexander Panek wrote:

 On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:20:03 -0600
 Charlie <charlie.fats gmail.com> wrote:


 DBLoke wrote:

 My question: what the heck is that guy in the front row /eating/? =

















 Cheetos perhaps?









  Ad hair: Hey, I've got such a "ponytail", too!



 Same here. :/



Mine's even longer :D

-- =

Erstellt mit Operas revolution=E4rem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/=
mail/
Feb 23 2007
parent reply Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> writes:
mike wrote:

 Am 23.02.2007, 18:57 Uhr, schrieb Pragma <ericanderton yahoo.removeme.com>:
 

 Alexander Panek wrote:

 On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:20:03 -0600
 Charlie <charlie.fats gmail.com> wrote:


 DBLoke wrote:

 My question: what the heck is that guy in the front row /eating/?  
 Cheetos perhaps?









  Ad hair: Hey, I've got such a "ponytail", too!



 Same here. :/



 Mine's even longer :D



Does size matter in these things?  :-)

--bb
Feb 23 2007
parent mike <vertex gmx.at> writes:
Am 24.02.2007, 02:42 Uhr, schrieb Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com=

:




  Mine's even longer :D



 Does size matter in these things?  :-)

 --bb



It better! That was some hard work, letting the hair grow for such a lon=
g  =

time. :)

-- =

Erstellt mit Operas revolution=E4rem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/=
mail/
Feb 24 2007
prev sibling parent "Andrei Alexandrescu (See Website For Email)" <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
Pragma wrote:

 Alexander Panek wrote:

 On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:20:03 -0600
 Charlie <charlie.fats gmail.com> wrote:


 DBLoke wrote:

 My question: what the heck is that guy in the front row /eating/?  
 Cheetos perhaps?










 Definitely pizza.

 Ad hair: Hey, I've got such a "ponytail", too! 



 Same here. :/



Same here. (Checks.) Oh, I cut it off ten years ago :o).

Andrei
Feb 23 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent reply DBLoke <DBloke Nowhere.eu> writes:
Sorry no offence meant about ponytail, I posted here before finishin the 
video, and the person turns around in video and identifies as a male, 
but otherwise kind of hard to tell :)

My hair is too curly to have a ponytail :( so I was always shunned by 
the unix community
Feb 23 2007
next sibling parent reply Pragma <ericanderton yahoo.removeme.com> writes:
DBLoke wrote:

 Sorry no offence meant about ponytail, I posted here before finishin the 
 video, and the person turns around in video and identifies as a male, 
 but otherwise kind of hard to tell :)
 
 My hair is too curly to have a ponytail :( so I was always shunned by 
 the unix community



It's all good - I think I speak for most folks here when I say that we're an
easy-going bunch, and that you're welcome 
here.  Unix-hacker ponytail (w/optional beard) or not.

Besides, we all know that the measure of a true hacker is how well he/she can
make vi do their bidding. :)

-- 
- EricAnderton at yahoo
Feb 23 2007
parent reply DBLoke <DBloke Nowhere.eu> writes:
 It's all good - I think I speak for most folks here when I say that 
 we're an easy-going bunch, and that you're welcome here.  Unix-hacker 
 ponytail (w/optional beard) or not.
 
 Besides, we all know that the measure of a true hacker is how well 
 he/she can make vi do their bidding. :)
 



Excellent to hear, Vi still use now, great editor and has saved my bacon 
on more than one occasion when FreeBSD baulked on boot.

I also admit I love Emacs, though I would be lined up against the wall 
without a blindfold and shot for admitting this where I work.

Pity D still doesn't have a fully fledged RAD environment yet, but 
Descent looks promising, not sure about DWT that NG seems stagnant right 
now.

Yes it is simple to bang out lines of code to create windows in D, but 
when it comes to fine tuning control layouts RAD is a must for me.

D is gaining popularity and people at work are taking an interest, 
though purely from a curiosity perspective at the moment, a couple of 
the them have it installed at home.

D is like C# on steroids Sharp is to C as Razor to D.

I also like D in that it is much simpler to grind the Metal with D than 
C# weather good or bad sometimes it is required.

Also I like that it is not a requirement to make everything a class in D 
again sometimes a plain function will do and though there are structs in 
C# IMHO a function when you only need a function will require less 
overhead than creating even a value type struct.

L8rs
D
Feb 23 2007
parent reply =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_F_Bj=F6rklund?= <afb algonet.se> writes:
DBLoke wrote:


 Pity D still doesn't have a fully fledged RAD environment yet, but 
 Descent looks promising, not sure about DWT that NG seems stagnant right 
 now.
 
 Yes it is simple to bang out lines of code to create windows in D, but 
 when it comes to fine tuning control layouts RAD is a must for me.



Have you looked at the wxWidgets GUI, and the Code::Blocks IDE ?

--anders
Feb 24 2007
parent reply DBLoke <DBloke Nowhere.eu> writes:
 Have you looked at the wxWidgets GUI, and the Code::Blocks IDE ?
 
 --anders



Yes used wxWidgets with C++ nice GUI better than MFC and neater than 
Win32 raw C code.

wxSmith afaik only works for C++?

not had a chance to play with wxD yet, my next port of call.

I am a Delphi developer by trade and recently moved to C# (its where the 
money is right now)

Following with interest D a great deal of interest in fact.

I may even be commissioned to do a feasibility study using D as a 
mainstream language, but this is sometime off yet lots of red tape and 
boring meetings to get through first yawn yawn.

I expect D will be at version 7 by the time this happens, it only took 3 
years to move to C# from Delphi.

L8rs
Feb 25 2007
parent =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_F_Bj=F6rklund?= <afb algonet.se> writes:
DBLoke wrote:


 wxSmith afaik only works for C++?



If at all, it is currently being refactored into a "new wxSmith".
But the XRC resources should work for all languages, including D.


 not had a chance to play with wxD yet, my next port of call.



Let's say that it aims to be *very* similar to the C++ version,
since it uses the same libraries (it's a "binding", not a port)

--anders
Feb 26 2007
prev sibling parent reply Walter Bright <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:
DBLoke wrote:

 My hair is too curly to have a ponytail :( so I was always shunned by 
 the unix community



I had a ponytail once, but it was irritating. Same with a beard. I like 
short hair much better <g>.
Feb 23 2007
next sibling parent Sean Kelly <sean f4.ca> writes:
Walter Bright wrote:

 DBLoke wrote:

 My hair is too curly to have a ponytail :( so I was always shunned by 
 the unix community



 I had a ponytail once, but it was irritating. Same with a beard. I like 
 short hair much better <g>.



Same here :-)  Long hair was too hot, also.
Feb 23 2007
prev sibling parent Frits van Bommel <fvbommel REMwOVExCAPSs.nl> writes:
Walter Bright wrote:

 DBLoke wrote:

 My hair is too curly to have a ponytail :( so I was always shunned by 
 the unix community



 I had a ponytail once, but it was irritating. Same with a beard. I like 
 short hair much better <g>.



Ah, so maybe my mental image *was* right at one point ;)
Feb 23 2007
prev sibling parent Mike Parker <aldacron71 yahoo.com> writes:
Alexander Panek wrote:


 
 Ad hair: Hey, I've got such a "ponytail", too! 



I'm in the process of growing mine again.
Feb 24 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent reply J Duncan <jtd514 nospam.ameritech.net> writes:
Bill Baxter wrote:

 http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html
 
 --bb



Great video! I think the C++ guys comments are humorous.

But Walter, you look about 20 years younger than I expected :)
Feb 23 2007
parent "Andrei Alexandrescu (See Website For Email)" <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
J Duncan wrote:

 Bill Baxter wrote:

 http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html

 --bb



 Great video! I think the C++ guys comments are humorous.



There were actually two quite annoying guys. Then there was this great 
guy with a Romanian accent who tried to prevent them from trolling as 
much as he could. Ahem. :o)

Andrei
Feb 23 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent Alexander Panek <alexander.panek brainsware.org> writes:
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:20:03 -0600
Charlie <charlie.fats gmail.com> wrote:


 DBLoke wrote:

 My question: what the heck is that guy in the front row /eating/?  
 Cheetos perhaps?






 Looked like pizza to me.   Mmmm pizza.




Definitely pizza.

Ad hair: Hey, I've got such a "ponytail", too!
Feb 23 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent Alexander Panek <alexander.panek brainsware.org> writes:
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:53:31 +0100
torhu <fake address.dude> wrote:


 Frits van Bommel wrote:

 Jarrett Billingsley wrote:

 "Bill Baxter" <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> wrote in message 
 news:erlkhd$b03$1 digitalmars.com...

 http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html



 Mental image of Walter _shattered_!  Don't know why, but totally
 didn't expect him to look like that. 



 You're not the only one.



 He looks so damn...normal.  At least if you expected Doc Brown from
 Back to the Future. :p



Hahaha.. SO true! :D
Feb 23 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Chris Miller" <chris dprogramming.com> writes:
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 21:46:02 -0500, Bill Baxter  
<dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> wrote:


 http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html

 --bb



Nice, yes good finally to put a face with the name. Until now I'd just  
give out this picture of Walter,  
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/8374/brightwf4jf.jpg

Decent presentation; I haven't finished watching yet, though. Great to  
have it online for others to benefit from.

- Chris
Feb 23 2007
parent Walter Bright <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:
Chris Miller wrote:

 Nice, yes good finally to put a face with the name. Until now I'd just 
 give out this picture of Walter, 
 http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/8374/brightwf4jf.jpg



I really am feeling much better!
Feb 23 2007
prev sibling parent Jesse Phillips <Jesse.K.Phillips+Digitalmars gmail.com> writes:
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:46:02 +0900, Bill Baxter wrote:


 http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2007/01.html
 
 --bb



Great presentation, I really like how people try to stick with their
language just because it can do the same things. (there is good reason we
don't use assembly to program)
Feb 25 2007