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digitalmars.D - Telegram Supergroup as an alternative to IRC

reply Dechcaudron <no-reply no-email.com> writes:
Hey there community,

I've been using D for the last couple of months already. I 
usually have to drop by the IRC to ask some fast questions and so 
on, but IRC and its clients' limitations make it kind of a pain 
to communicate through it.

If anybody uses Telegram around here, its Desktop client would 
prove an amazing alternative and its supergroups can host up to 
5000 people. I understand there are some major differences, but 
all in all I understand the advantages outweight the cons. 
Mentions, for example, are waaaaay easier to use, as well as 
replies, link and media sharing...

So, anybody willing to join me? Even if it's 3 people in the 
beggining, it'll be alright. Just send a message to  Dechcaudron 
from Telegram and I'll answer so we can assemble the group :D
Jun 16 2016
next sibling parent rikki cattermole <rikki cattermole.co.nz> writes:
On 17/06/2016 2:33 AM, Dechcaudron wrote:

 Hey there community,

 I've been using D for the last couple of months already. I usually have
 to drop by the IRC to ask some fast questions and so on, but IRC and its
 clients' limitations make it kind of a pain to communicate through it.

 If anybody uses Telegram around here, its Desktop client would prove an
 amazing alternative and its supergroups can host up to 5000 people. I
 understand there are some major differences, but all in all I understand
 the advantages outweight the cons. Mentions, for example, are waaaaay
 easier to use, as well as replies, link and media sharing...

 So, anybody willing to join me? Even if it's 3 people in the beggining,
 it'll be alright. Just send a message to  Dechcaudron from Telegram and
 I'll answer so we can assemble the group :D


You're hard pressed to consider even XMPP as a replacement for IRC.
Its a highly mature technology with clear solutions for all necessary 
usage patterns. Not to mention there are clients on pretty every 
platform imaginable.

So no, Telegram has 0 advantages over IRC. It only has cons.
Don't expect anybody to consider it seriously and yes there are some of 
us on e.g. gitter and Discord its just not used in any real form.
Jun 16 2016
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Adam D. Ruppe <destructionator gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 16 June 2016 at 14:33:07 UTC, Dechcaudron wrote:

 I've been using D for the last couple of months already. I 
 usually have to drop by the IRC to ask some fast questions and 
 so on, but IRC and its clients' limitations make it kind of a 
 pain to communicate through it.


What clients are you using? You might look into another one and 
there's also the bots on the D irc that can help with other 
things, like ".note somebody the bot will give them this message 
when they are next active"

I think chat things accumulate too many features though... they 
lose their value if they aren't simple, I prefer email for 
anything more complex than throw-away lines.
Jun 16 2016
parent Dechcaudron <no-reply no-email.com> writes:
On Thursday, 16 June 2016 at 17:22:47 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:

 What clients are you using? You might look into another one and 
 there's also the bots on the D irc that can help with other 
 things, like ".note somebody the bot will give them this 
 message when they are next active"

 I think chat things accumulate too many features though... they 
 lose their value if they aren't simple, I prefer email for 
 anything more complex than throw-away lines.


Telegram is dead simple. Things like straight mentioning a user, 
"complex" in IRC if you don't have a proper client, can be done 
in telegram with a right click.

I understand many of you won't be interested. For the rest, the 
supergroup is already up. Just enter 
https://telegram.me/dlangTelegram

We're only two people so far, but don't push it, these things 
take time. For me, it's way more convenient to use Telegram than 
any IRC.

Cheers!
Jun 16 2016
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Dsby <dushibaiyu yahoo.com> writes:
On Thursday, 16 June 2016 at 14:33:07 UTC, Dechcaudron wrote:

 Hey there community,

 I've been using D for the last couple of months already. I 
 usually have to drop by the IRC to ask some fast questions and 
 so on, but IRC and its clients' limitations make it kind of a 
 pain to communicate through it.

 If anybody uses Telegram around here, its Desktop client would 
 prove an amazing alternative and its supergroups can host up to 
 5000 people. I understand there are some major differences, but 
 all in all I understand the advantages outweight the cons. 
 Mentions, for example, are waaaaay easier to use, as well as 
 replies, link and media sharing...

 So, anybody willing to join me? Even if it's 3 people in the 
 beggining, it'll be alright. Just send a message to 
  Dechcaudron from Telegram and I'll answer so we can assemble 
 the group :D


In China, the telegarm can not connect server. if use it, must 
have a proxy.
Jun 16 2016
parent sigod <sigod.mail gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 17 June 2016 at 06:30:06 UTC, Dsby wrote:

 On Thursday, 16 June 2016 at 14:33:07 UTC, Dechcaudron wrote:

 [...]


 In China, the telegarm can not connect server. if use it, must 
 have a proxy.


Thank your government.
Jun 17 2016
prev sibling next sibling parent Dicebot <public dicebot.lv> writes:
Thanks but no.
Jun 17 2016
prev sibling parent reply sigod <sigod.mail gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 16 June 2016 at 14:33:07 UTC, Dechcaudron wrote:

 Hey there community,

 I've been using D for the last couple of months already. I 
 usually have to drop by the IRC to ask some fast questions and 
 so on, but IRC and its clients' limitations make it kind of a 
 pain to communicate through it.

 If anybody uses Telegram around here, its Desktop client would 
 prove an amazing alternative and its supergroups can host up to 
 5000 people. I understand there are some major differences, but 
 all in all I understand the advantages outweight the cons. 
 Mentions, for example, are waaaaay easier to use, as well as 
 replies, link and media sharing...

 So, anybody willing to join me? Even if it's 3 people in the 
 beggining, it'll be alright. Just send a message to 
  Dechcaudron from Telegram and I'll answer so we can assemble 
 the group :D


I think it's wrong to suggest to replace IRC with Telegram. 
Instead, let's use Telegram as other means of communication.

Also, does anyone knows who has control over  dlang 
(https://telegram.me/dlang) channel?
Jun 17 2016
parent Dechcaudron <no-reply no-email.com> writes:
On Friday, 17 June 2016 at 12:53:49 UTC, sigod wrote:

 I think it's wrong to suggest to replace IRC with Telegram. 
 Instead, let's use Telegram as other means of communication.


Sure, that's what I meant.


 Also, does anyone knows who has control over  dlang 
 (https://telegram.me/dlang) channel?


No idea. It's dead, sadly. We can probably contact the admin if 
we push hard enough.
Jun 17 2016