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reply "ixid" <nuaccount gmail.com> writes:
The forum has a number of issues, is there anything practical 
that can be done to address them? A forum should really work.

Regular forum errors (XHR error)
Posts disappearing after getting stuck in a waiting for message 
response loop
Often very slow
Broken up threads with the same title
Often has layout errors when loading that require a refresh
Works poorly/buggily on mobile browers (Android Stock/Android 
Chrome)

Also the user habit due to the combined use of the forum as an 
email discussion and as a website forum of repeating the whole of 
a post, often to respond with a one-liner. Posts without the 
whole email/context repeated receive complaints that people do 
not know what it is in response to.
Apr 10 2013
next sibling parent "Vladimir Panteleev" <vladimir thecybershadow.net> writes:
On Wednesday, 10 April 2013 at 16:25:03 UTC, ixid wrote:
 The forum has a number of issues, is there anything practical 
 that can be done to address them? A forum should really work.

I was doing some maintenance around the time you posted this. Perhaps that was related?
Apr 10 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent "ixid" <nuaccount gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 10 April 2013 at 17:01:36 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev 
wrote:
 On Wednesday, 10 April 2013 at 16:25:03 UTC, ixid wrote:
 The forum has a number of issues, is there anything practical 
 that can be done to address them? A forum should really work.

I was doing some maintenance around the time you posted this. Perhaps that was related?

It may have been particularly slow as a result of the maintenance but it often seems to be slow, it seemed faster in the past.
Apr 10 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent "Rob T" <alanb ucora.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 10 April 2013 at 17:01:36 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev 
wrote:
 On Wednesday, 10 April 2013 at 16:25:03 UTC, ixid wrote:
 The forum has a number of issues, is there anything practical 
 that can be done to address them? A forum should really work.

I was doing some maintenance around the time you posted this. Perhaps that was related?

Is there anything that can be done to fix the broken up threads (merge by subject title?)? That one issue is perhaps the most annoying of all.
Apr 10 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent "angel" <andrey.gelman gmail.com> writes:
He is totally right.
Everything, possibly except the the forum speed, is not related 
to no maintenance, rather plain bugs in implementation or design.
Apr 10 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent "Vladimir Panteleev" <vladimir thecybershadow.net> writes:
On Thursday, 11 April 2013 at 05:55:10 UTC, angel wrote:
 He is totally right.
 Everything, possibly except the the forum speed, is not related 
 to no maintenance, rather plain bugs in implementation or 
 design.

If they're as plain as you say, why don't you fix them? ;) https://github.com/CyberShadow/DFeed
Apr 10 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent "Vladimir Panteleev" <vladimir thecybershadow.net> writes:
On Wednesday, 10 April 2013 at 16:25:03 UTC, ixid wrote:
 The forum has a number of issues, is there anything practical 
 that can be done to address them? A forum should really work.

You can collect more information about the issues you're experiencing, and file an issue, or even better, send a pull request to the forum's GitHub repository: https://github.com/CyberShadow/DFeed
 Regular forum errors (XHR error)
 Posts disappearing after getting stuck in a waiting for message 
 response loop

I have not experienced these issues. The next time it happens, please make a note of the exact time and the post you're attempting to send, and file an issue or contact me directly.
 Broken up threads with the same title

The core issue is caused by Mailman rewriting Message-IDs. I know how to implement a workaround, but it requires reengineering the database (I need to store two IDs for each message, and account for both when reconstructing threads). This is planned for the next major update.
 Often has layout errors when loading that require a refresh

Which web browser? If the HTML doesn't change (and I don't know why it would), it sounds like a bug with your browser's layout engine.
 Works poorly/buggily on mobile browers (Android Stock/Android 
 Chrome)

Please list some specific issues. Note that there is a limit to the post width, since many mail/news clients send text in a non-reflowable (pre-wrapped) format.
 Also the user habit due to the combined use of the forum as an 
 email discussion and as a website forum of repeating the whole 
 of a post, often to respond with a one-liner. Posts without the 
 whole email/context repeated receive complaints that people do 
 not know what it is in response to.

I'll implement some warnings when a user attempts to post a message not conforming to netiquette.
Apr 10 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent "Mr. Anonymous" <mailnew4ster gmail.com> writes:
 Also the user habit due to the combined use of the forum as an 
 email discussion and as a website forum of repeating the whole 
 of a post, often to respond with a one-liner. Posts without 
 the whole email/context repeated receive complaints that 
 people do not know what it is in response to.

I'll implement some warnings when a user attempts to post a message not conforming to netiquette.

A suggestion: Can you make the quotes hidden by default, like e.g. in Gmail or Google Groups? That would be perfect. (http://i.imgur.com/axuAFvz.png)
Apr 11 2013
prev sibling parent "ixid" <nuaccount gmail.com> writes:
 A suggestion: Can you make the quotes hidden by default, like 
 e.g. in Gmail or Google Groups?

That would be ideal.
Apr 11 2013