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reply eternium <swiftj19NOSPAM yahoo.com> writes:
Yao G. Wrote:

 On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 13:08:45 -0500, Andrej Mitrovic  
 <andrej.mitrovich gmail.com> wrote:
 
 I think it was a rather superficial review of all the languages. Did
 he even try any of them out, or did he just took a look at what
 wikipedia has to say?

 Here's my comment
 http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/dsdd6/the_next_big_language_2010_edition/c12k68w

 On 10/17/10, Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote:
 Discusses a few languages including D:
 http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/dsdd6/the_next_big_language_2010_edition/


Whenever I read a comment from that guy that post as eternium there, in reddit, I have a sense of déj vu. The same exact passive-agressive stance with respect to D, the constant Walter/Andrei bashing, the ivory tower snark comment, the "people posting in the newsgroup are n00bs, idiots, fanboys"... Exactly the same comments as *someone* that post here, you know who. It gets more sad if you look at his comments history and see that like 80% of what he writes there, is just D bashing. At least he should post with the same user name in both places :)

Dear Mister Conspiracy Guy, I added more original sources to my posts as per Your request. Seemed to work (already improved my reddit karma 3 units in short time). That particular ivory tower quotation came from someone here. I also do mention good things: "Switching from C/C++ to D may improve your productivity in many cases." <- http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/dm9gh/whats_your_next_programming_language_and_why/c11czh9 "The D's type system supports immutability in a fine-grained manner. It makes all kinds of optimizations possible. This system is impressive, and I have no reason to believe that it wouldn't bring performance benefits in the future." <- http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/dm8n8/the_many_faces_of_d_slides_pdf/c11d248 "Finally, I'd like to thank you very much for listening. I like D and I wish it a bright future." <- http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/944gh/the_d_language_metaprogramming_language_is_d/c0bec00 Sometimes the rants hit the nail in the head (wasn't this fixed recently): "You could at least set the executable flag for the Linux binaries to improve user experience. Many would appreciate that and it's trivial to do e.g. with the Linux version of zip." <- http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9zqj0/the_state_of_d_programming_is_this_situation/c0f8wym May I ask Your reddit nick? Couldn't find any Yao G. there.
Oct 18 2010
next sibling parent "Yao G." <yao.gomez spam.gmail.com> writes:
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 12:50:43 -0500, eternium a.k.a. retard  
<swiftj19NOSPAM yahoo.com> wrote:

 I added more original sources to my posts as per Your request. Seemed to  
 work (already improved my reddit karma 3 units in short time).

 That particular ivory tower quotation came from someone here.

 I also do mention good things:

 "Switching from C/C++ to D may improve your productivity in many cases."  
 <-  
 http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/dm9gh/whats_your_next_programming_language_and_why/c11czh9

 "The D's type system supports immutability in a fine-grained manner. It  
 makes all kinds of optimizations possible. This system is impressive,  
 and I have no reason to believe that it wouldn't bring performance  
 benefits in the future." <-  
 http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/dm8n8/the_many_faces_of_d_slides_pdf/c11d248

 "Finally, I'd like to thank you very much for listening. I like D and I  
 wish it a bright future." <-  
 http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/944gh/the_d_language_metaprogramming_language_is_d/c0bec00

navigate in a sea of "not so good things".
 Sometimes the rants hit the nail in the head (wasn't this fixed  
 recently):

 "You could at least set the executable flag for the Linux binaries to  
 improve user experience. Many would appreciate that and it's trivial to  
 do e.g. with the Linux version of zip." <-  
 http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9zqj0/the_state_of_d_programming_is_this_situation/c0f8wym

 May I ask Your reddit nick? Couldn't find any Yao G. there.

concern retard... err... I mean, eternium. -- Yao G.
Oct 18 2010
prev sibling parent reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 10/18/10 12:50 CDT, eternium wrote:
 Yao G. Wrote:

 Dear Mister Conspiracy Guy,

 I added more original sources to my posts as per Your request.

Hey eternium -- thanks for dropping by. I see you have invested a good amount of time researching D, albeit in support for more negative than positive points. But if anything being passionate against or in favor of something is at the end of the day being passionate about that something. (Think of relationships... :o)) I guarantee it would produce you more satisfaction to contribute in building something instead of painstakingly and pettily getting into fights on reddit, revisiting pages that nobody looks at anymore, counting your votes, and reveling in paltry victories in some meaningless argument or another. I mean look at "eternium"s posting history. Can you look at that and say "this makes me a happier person"? You clearly know what you're talking about, and you have an interest in D. You know a good collection of arguments can be amassed against any language as there's no perfect one. That's easier but also less satisfying than taking something that you know has weaknesses and making it better. If you're bitter about something that can't be undone, I can't help but telling you that it's a place you want to move away from. But if you find it in yourself that you could help improve a language you have an interest in, bury the hatch and make yourself heard. Andrei
Oct 18 2010
parent reply "Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 14:36:57 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu  
<SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote:

 ...bury the hatch and...

Sorry, I can't let this one pass... bury the *hatchet* :) This isn't Lost. -Steve
Oct 18 2010
next sibling parent Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 10/18/10 13:45 CDT, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
 On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 14:36:57 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu
 <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote:

 ...bury the hatch and...

Sorry, I can't let this one pass... bury the *hatchet* :) This isn't Lost. -Steve

Ah, thanks. Hatchet, hatchet. Andrei
Oct 18 2010
prev sibling parent Bruno Medeiros <brunodomedeiros+spam com.gmail> writes:
On 18/10/2010 19:45, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
 On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 14:36:57 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu
 <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote:

 ...bury the hatch and...

Sorry, I can't let this one pass... bury the *hatchet* :) This isn't Lost. -Steve

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Oh man, I miss that series, even though it was going downhill.. -- Bruno Medeiros - Software Engineer
Nov 17 2010