• bearophile <bearophileHUGS lycos.com> Jan 26 2008
• Jarrod <qwerty ytre.wq> Jan 26 2008
• Jarrod <qwerty ytre.wq> Jan 26 2008

bearophile <bearophileHUGS lycos.com> writes:

Jarrod:
 But there will still be a comma or a semicolon there for cases where you 
 want the index.


Yes, like:
foreach(i, el in obj)
So the problem I was talking about is solved, because you can only have commas
there, and no semicolons. And it's not easy to mistake a comma for the "in".


 there are a *lot* of 
 groans and moans about it. *Especially* from the lisp/scheme fans. They 
 seem to hate it with a passion.


And some of them (but not the AI expert Norvig, he has re-invented something
like that) don't like the Python doctests, that I love (and I miss when I
program in D):
http://docs.python.org/lib/module-doctest.html


 Some have even written some 'interesting' poems about it. True story.


Maybe they are envious that today Python has much more success than their
languages, despite being an "inferior" language ;-)

Bye,
bearophile

Jarrod <qwerty ytre.wq> writes:

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:58:00 -0500, bearophile wrote:

 Yes, like:
 foreach(i, el in obj)
 So the problem I was talking about is solved, because you can only have
 commas there, and no semicolons. And it's not easy to mistake a comma
 for the "in".


Well, my main gripe was with the 'in' not the commas.


 Maybe they are envious that today Python has much more success than
 their languages, despite being an "inferior" language ;-)


Oh boy, language wars. Not getting involved with that.

I wasn't trying to be a jerk about forced indentation or anything, I mean 
I still like python and it works well with its indentation rules. But it 
doesn't mean I have to like it. 
I like my own style and as you can see from some of the other replies 
regarding this, many others have their own styles regarding nested 
conditionals too.

Jarrod <qwerty ytre.wq> writes:

 I mean I still like python and it works well with its indentation rules.
 But it doesn't mean I have to like it.


Uh, 'it' in the last sentence being the forced indentation, not python.
Perhaps I should try this 'proofreading' thing I've heard all about.