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digitalmars.D - RFC: DConf 2013

reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
The project is not live, it will be within a few days. In the spirit of 
having the community actively participate, I'm making this as 
transparent as it gets. Please comment:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dlang/1177501541?token=df96761a

Your feedback and suggestions are welcome.


Thanks,

Andrei
Oct 01 2012
next sibling parent reply Iain Buclaw <ibuclaw ubuntu.com> writes:
On 1 October 2012 17:25, Andrei Alexandrescu
<SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote:
 The project is not live, it will be within a few days. In the spirit of
 having the community actively participate, I'm making this as transparent as
 it gets. Please comment:

 http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dlang/1177501541?token=df96761a

 Your feedback and suggestions are welcome.

I will try my hardest to attend to it. :-) Regards -- Iain Buclaw *(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';
Oct 01 2012
parent Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 10/1/12 12:46 PM, Iain Buclaw wrote:
 On 1 October 2012 17:25, Andrei Alexandrescu
 <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org>  wrote:
 The project is not live, it will be within a few days. In the spirit of
 having the community actively participate, I'm making this as transparent as
 it gets. Please comment:

 http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dlang/1177501541?token=df96761a

 Your feedback and suggestions are welcome.

I will try my hardest to attend to it. :-)

And we'll do our hardest to bring you here. We have a shoestring budget for sponsoring speakers, but sure as heck we must bring major players such as yourself. If your employer doesn't sponsor the trip, you and I will discuss on how to defray expenses. Andrei
Oct 01 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Jesse Phillips" <Jessekphillips+D gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 1 October 2012 at 16:25:12 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:
 The project is not live, it will be within a few days. In the 
 spirit of having the community actively participate, I'm making 
 this as transparent as it gets. Please comment:

 http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dlang/1177501541?token=df96761a

 Your feedback and suggestions are welcome.


 Thanks,

 Andrei

Nice, I like the raise money first approach. Make it possible for those unable to attend to contribute to its success. I don't see myself being able to make it, but I'll have to keep it in mind. I was going to write up a suggestion, but instead I'm going to write why I see the suggestion bad. I was going to suggest an unlimited tier for the expected ticket price. But that doesn't make sense as there will need to be a limit on attendees.
Oct 01 2012
parent Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 10/1/12 3:13 PM, Jesse Phillips wrote:
 On Monday, 1 October 2012 at 16:25:12 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 The project is not live, it will be within a few days. In the spirit
 of having the community actively participate, I'm making this as
 transparent as it gets. Please comment:

 http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dlang/1177501541?token=df96761a

 Your feedback and suggestions are welcome.


 Thanks,

 Andrei

Nice, I like the raise money first approach. Make it possible for those unable to attend to contribute to its success. I don't see myself being able to make it, but I'll have to keep it in mind.

Thanks!
 I was going to write up a suggestion, but instead I'm going to write why
 I see the suggestion bad. I was going to suggest an unlimited tier for
 the expected ticket price. But that doesn't make sense as there will
 need to be a limit on attendees.

We could actually do that, as after breaking even on some expenses we could (at least in theory) scale up at a constant cost per attendee. But predicting the appropriate venue size will be difficult. Andrei
Oct 01 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "MattCoder" <mattcoder hotmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 1 October 2012 at 16:25:12 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:
 The project is not live, it will be within a few days. In the 
 spirit of having the community actively participate, I'm making 
 this as transparent as it gets. Please comment:

 http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dlang/1177501541?token=df96761a

Question about: "Pledge $50 or more - DON'T LOSE YOUR SHIRT..." So, the shirts will be send even for who live in another country? The value has shipping included?
Oct 02 2012
parent Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 10/2/12 8:23 PM, MattCoder wrote:
 On Monday, 1 October 2012 at 16:25:12 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 The project is not live, it will be within a few days. In the spirit
 of having the community actively participate, I'm making this as
 transparent as it gets. Please comment:

 http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dlang/1177501541?token=df96761a

Question about: "Pledge $50 or more - DON'T LOSE YOUR SHIRT..." So, the shirts will be send even for who live in another country? The value has shipping included?

Good question. I'll circle back to the logistics guy. Andrei
Oct 02 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent reply deadalnix <deadalnix gmail.com> writes:
Le 01/10/2012 18:25, Andrei Alexandrescu a écrit :
 The project is not live, it will be within a few days. In the spirit of
 having the community actively participate, I'm making this as
 transparent as it gets. Please comment:

 http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dlang/1177501541?token=df96761a

 Your feedback and suggestions are welcome.


 Thanks,

 Andrei

I'm not used to such event, but raising $35.000 seems quite a lot of money. Still, you can count of some money of my own and I'll do my best to be present.
Oct 03 2012
next sibling parent reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 10/3/12 12:06 PM, deadalnix wrote:
 Le 01/10/2012 18:25, Andrei Alexandrescu a écrit :
 The project is not live, it will be within a few days. In the spirit of
 having the community actively participate, I'm making this as
 transparent as it gets. Please comment:

 http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dlang/1177501541?token=df96761a

 Your feedback and suggestions are welcome.


 Thanks,

 Andrei

I'm not used to such event, but raising $35.000 seems quite a lot of money.

I hear you. We have a detailed budget model and we're not splurging in any way. Organizing a conference has quite a few odds and ends and weird pricing. As an example, location providers offer good prices for the location proper BUT they require using their own catering services, which is how they make money. I co-organized a few conferences and, believe me, a cookie has a different taste when you know it was $5. That being said, if anyone on this forum works in the Bay Area and takes this to their employer, we'd save a ton of expenses if a company could offer a meeting room. I have initiated such with Facebook, and they're looking into it. All - please email me if such an opportunity exists.
 Still, you can count of some money of my own and I'll do my best to be
 present.

Sounds great, thanks! Andrei
Oct 03 2012
parent Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 10/6/12 7:20 PM, Era Scarecrow wrote:
 At some conventions you could get a discount if you mentioned you were
 part of the group, but if this group isn't large enough to warrant that
 kind of attention then perhaps something else.

 Perhaps at no cost find/contact a few hotels and that are willing to
 give discounts (aren't far from the site and reasonably priced) and list
 them as preferred options for lodging.

That does indeed work, but the hotels offer a discount rate for a guaranteed minimum attendance. For example (numbers in the ballpark), we could get 20% off if we guarantee occupancy of 40 rooms for 3 nights. The converse problem is that if we can't meet the minimum we still need to pay them. Andrei
Oct 06 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent "Era Scarecrow" <rtcvb32 yahoo.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 3 October 2012 at 17:08:25 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:
 I hear you. We have a detailed budget model and we're not 
 splurging in any way. Organizing a conference has quite a few 
 odds and ends and weird pricing. As an example, location 
 providers offer good prices for the location proper BUT they 
 require using their own catering services, which is how they 
 make money. I co-organized a few conferences and, believe me, a 
 cookie has a different taste when you know it was $5.

 That being said, if anyone on this forum works in the Bay Area 
 and takes this to their employer, we'd save a ton of expenses 
 if a company could offer a meeting room. I have initiated such 
 with Facebook, and they're looking into it. All - please email 
 me if such an opportunity exists.

Depending on how many people would be attending, and I'm sure most of us are far enough away that a place to stay becomes a question. A quick glance suggests room swill be anywhere from $80-$200, and if it hits tourist season that number can double (or triple) easily. At some conventions you could get a discount if you mentioned you were part of the group, but if this group isn't large enough to warrant that kind of attention then perhaps something else. Perhaps at no cost find/contact a few hotels and that are willing to give discounts (aren't far from the site and reasonably priced) and list them as preferred options for lodging. Potentially also if a single hotel (or two) can reserve say a hundred rooms (or whatever is decided), a larger discount may be given especially for stays lasting multiple day. In that situation whoever is managing can collect the cost for the rooms (up front, say 3 months in advance). Regarding deposits I'm sure we would each handle our own. Also a thought. If the discounts are comparable enough compared to normally without this effort, then that discount can then be donated towards the conference and may build that up faster/easier.
Oct 06 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Armando_Garc=EDa_Sancio?= <jsancio gmail.com> writes:
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On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Era Scarecrow <rtcvb32 yahoo.com> wrote:

 On Wednesday, 3 October 2012 at 17:08:25 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 I hear you. We have a detailed budget model and we're not splurging in
 any way. Organizing a conference has quite a few odds and ends and weird
 pricing. As an example, location providers offer good prices for the
 location proper BUT they require using their own catering services, which
 is how they make money. I co-organized a few conferences and, believe me, a
 cookie has a different taste when you know it was $5.

 That being said, if anyone on this forum works in the Bay Area and takes
 this to their employer, we'd save a ton of expenses if a company could
 offer a meeting room. I have initiated such with Facebook, and they're
 looking into it. All - please email me if such an opportunity exists.

Depending on how many people would be attending, and I'm sure most of us are far enough away that a place to stay becomes a question. A quick glance suggests room swill be anywhere from $80-$200, and if it hits tourist season that number can double (or triple) easily.

Palo Alto doesn't have a tourist season. I doubt any tourist wants to visit Palo Alto ;). I suspect Hotels are busy when school (Stanford) is starting/ending but even then it is probably not bad. Looking forward to this. I would probably attend as I live in the hood. Thank, -Jose --14dae93411e9edc51904cb6e9fe5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Era Scarecrow <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href= =3D"mailto:rtcvb32 yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">rtcvb32 yahoo.com</a>&gt;</= span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote= " style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> On Wednesday, 3 October 2012 at 17:08:25 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:<br=

x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> I hear you. We have a detailed budget model and we&#39;re not splurging in = any way. Organizing a conference has quite a few odds and ends and weird pr= icing. As an example, location providers offer good prices for the location= proper BUT they require using their own catering services, which is how th= ey make money. I co-organized a few conferences and, believe me, a cookie h= as a different taste when you know it was $5.<br> <br> That being said, if anyone on this forum works in the Bay Area and takes th= is to their employer, we&#39;d save a ton of expenses if a company could of= fer a meeting room. I have initiated such with Facebook, and they&#39;re lo= oking into it. All - please email me if such an opportunity exists.<br> </blockquote> <br> =A0Depending on how many people would be attending, and I&#39;m sure most o= f us are far enough away that a place to stay becomes a question. A quick g= lance suggests room swill be anywhere from $80-$200, and if it hits tourist= season that number can double (or triple) easily.<br> </blockquote><div><br>Palo Alto doesn&#39;t have a tourist season. I doubt = any tourist wants to visit Palo Alto ;). I suspect Hotels are busy when sch= ool (Stanford) is starting/ending but even then it is probably not bad.<br> <br>Looking forward to this. I would probably attend as I live in the hood.= <br><br>Thank,<br>-Jose<br></div></div> --14dae93411e9edc51904cb6e9fe5--
Oct 06 2012
prev sibling parent Iain Buclaw <ibuclaw ubuntu.com> writes:
On 7 October 2012 00:20, Era Scarecrow <rtcvb32 yahoo.com> wrote:
 On Wednesday, 3 October 2012 at 17:08:25 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 I hear you. We have a detailed budget model and we're not splurging in any
 way. Organizing a conference has quite a few odds and ends and weird
 pricing. As an example, location providers offer good prices for the
 location proper BUT they require using their own catering services, which is
 how they make money. I co-organized a few conferences and, believe me, a
 cookie has a different taste when you know it was $5.

 That being said, if anyone on this forum works in the Bay Area and takes
 this to their employer, we'd save a ton of expenses if a company could offer
 a meeting room. I have initiated such with Facebook, and they're looking
 into it. All - please email me if such an opportunity exists.

Depending on how many people would be attending, and I'm sure most of us are far enough away that a place to stay becomes a question. A quick glance suggests room swill be anywhere from $80-$200, and if it hits tourist season that number can double (or triple) easily.

I'd rather bring a tent and pitch up on a golf course. :-) -- Iain Buclaw *(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';
Oct 07 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent reply =?UTF-8?B?QWxpIMOHZWhyZWxp?= <acehreli yahoo.com> writes:
On 10/01/2012 09:25 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 The project is not live, it will be within a few days. In the spirit of
 having the community actively participate, I'm making this as
 transparent as it gets. Please comment:

 http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dlang/1177501541?token=df96761a

 Your feedback and suggestions are welcome.


 Thanks,

 Andrei

This is great news! Thank you for doing this. First, I am glad that it will be held in Silicon Valley because I think this area still has one of the highest concentration of software people in the world. Also, I think every company out there has some ties here. Hopefully, some D people around the world will be able to shift their schedules a little and manage to be in the Bay Area around the same time as the conference. I would very much like to be a part of this by contributing as much as I can from being a lousy speaker :p to even shuttling people to and from the airport. :) Looking forward to meeting other D people. Let's make this happen! :) Ali
Oct 03 2012
parent Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 10/3/2012 4:38 PM, Ali Çehreli wrote:
 Looking forward to meeting other D people. Let's make this happen! :)

I'm excited about it, too! And I want to thank Andrei for taking point on making this happen.
Oct 06 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent Iain Buclaw <ibuclaw ubuntu.com> writes:
On 2 October 2012 00:32, Andrei Alexandrescu
<SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote:
 On 10/1/12 12:46 PM, Iain Buclaw wrote:
 On 1 October 2012 17:25, Andrei Alexandrescu
 <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org>  wrote:
 The project is not live, it will be within a few days. In the spirit of

 having the community actively participate, I'm making this as transparent
 as
 it gets. Please comment:

 http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dlang/1177501541?token=df96761a

 Your feedback and suggestions are welcome.

I will try my hardest to attend to it. :-)

And we'll do our hardest to bring you here. We have a shoestring budget for sponsoring speakers, but sure as heck we must bring major players such as yourself. If your employer doesn't sponsor the trip, you and I will discuss on how to defray expenses. Andrei

Aww, thanks. I'm touched. :) -- Iain Buclaw *(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';
Oct 06 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Manu <turkeyman gmail.com> writes:
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On 1 October 2012 19:25, Andrei Alexandrescu
<SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org>wrote:

 The project is not live, it will be within a few days. In the spirit of
 having the community actively participate, I'm making this as transparent
 as it gets. Please comment:

 http://www.kickstarter.com/**projects/dlang/1177501541?**token=df96761a<http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dlang/1177501541?token=df96761a>

 Your feedback and suggestions are welcome.

Seems like a big budget, what are the projected numbers? (10s? 100s? ... 1000s?) ;) --bcaec51d28ba773c2e04cb77710c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 1 October 2012 19:25, Andrei Alexandr= escu <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org"= target=3D"_blank">SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> The project is not live, it will be within a few days. In the spirit of hav= ing the community actively participate, I&#39;m making this as transparent = as it gets. Please comment:<br> <br> <a href=3D"http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dlang/1177501541?token=3Ddf9= 6761a" target=3D"_blank">http://www.kickstarter.com/<u></u>projects/dlang/1= 177501541?<u></u>token=3Ddf96761a</a><br> <br> Your feedback and suggestions are welcome.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><= div>Seems like a big budget, what are the projected numbers? (10s? 100s? ..= . 1000s?) ;)</div></div> --bcaec51d28ba773c2e04cb77710c--
Oct 07 2012
parent Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 10/7/12 8:42 AM, Manu wrote:
 On 1 October 2012 19:25, Andrei Alexandrescu
 <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org <mailto:SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org>>
 wrote:

     The project is not live, it will be within a few days. In the spirit
     of having the community actively participate, I'm making this as
     transparent as it gets. Please comment:

     http://www.kickstarter.com/__projects/dlang/1177501541?__token=df96761a
     <http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dlang/1177501541?token=df96761a>

     Your feedback and suggestions are welcome.


 Seems like a big budget, what are the projected numbers? (10s? 100s?
 .... 1000s?) ;)

The budget would cover around 55 attendees for 3 days. That includes (in decreasing order of cost) food, conference space, speaker support, A/V, staff remuneration, T-shirts/swag, and many smaller items. Andrei
Oct 07 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent "Era Scarecrow" <rtcvb32 yahoo.com> writes:
On Sunday, 7 October 2012 at 15:20:44 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:
 Seems like a big budget, what are the projected numbers? (10s? 
 100s? .... 1000s?) ;)


 The budget would cover around 55 attendees for 3 days. That 
 includes (in decreasing order of cost) food, conference space, 
 speaker support, A/V, staff remuneration, T-shirts/swag, and 
 many smaller items.>

Seems like a low number. I also assumed we would pack our own lunches, and food during the event would end up costing for 55 attendees is roughly $2000 (at least as an estimate). I figured the numbers would be closer to 200-300, but depending on how many speakers and how big the conference room... Just off hand I'm remembering that some hotels have a rentable room for conferences and meetings that may handle about 55 (Which sometimes is their continental breakfast area after the first thing in the morning), and assuming you wouldn't have a huge speaker system set up to disturb the normal customers in the lobby (assuming it's nearby) then in the case there isn't already a projector you can bring and set one up, although it wouldn't likely be too terribly big unless they have a blank white wall.... Mmmm... Having the meetings in the same hotel/motel you are staying it... Takes care of any commuting issue once you get settled in.
Oct 07 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent "mist" <none none.none> writes:
On Monday, 1 October 2012 at 16:25:12 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:
 The project is not live, it will be within a few days. In the 
 spirit of having the community actively participate, I'm making 
 this as transparent as it gets. Please comment:

 http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dlang/1177501541?token=df96761a

 Your feedback and suggestions are welcome.


 Thanks,

 Andrei

How about any special online materials for backers that can't really attend? :) ( Those Europe-to-USA tickets do not tolerate poor students :( )
Oct 07 2012
prev sibling parent Iain Buclaw <ibuclaw ubuntu.com> writes:
On 7 October 2012 22:41, mist <none none.none> wrote:
 On Monday, 1 October 2012 at 16:25:12 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 The project is not live, it will be within a few days. In the spirit of
 having the community actively participate, I'm making this as transparent as
 it gets. Please comment:

 http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dlang/1177501541?token=df96761a

 Your feedback and suggestions are welcome.


 Thanks,

 Andrei

How about any special online materials for backers that can't really attend? :) ( Those Europe-to-USA tickets do not tolerate poor students :( )

I could probably give minimal aid to one or two students living round Brighton UK - or the general Sussex/Kent/London area. ;-) Regards -- Iain Buclaw *(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';
Oct 08 2012