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digitalmars.D - Poll of the week - How long have you been in the D world?

reply "dnewbie" <run3 myopera.com> writes:
Just out of curiosity, is D attracting new users? Are the old
users running? Place your vote here
http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=4f6fb7e5e4b04f389e5eb66f
Mar 25 2012
next sibling parent James Miller <james aatch.net> writes:
On 26 March 2012 14:18, dnewbie <run3 myopera.com> wrote:
 Just out of curiosity, is D attracting new users? Are the old
 users running? Place your vote here
 http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=4f6fb7e5e4b04f389e5eb66f

Looks like a fairly even spread so far, (27 votes). The higher bracket is low, but it is also 6-10 years, D hasn't been around much longer than that <.< -- James Miller
Mar 25 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent Kevin Cox <kevincox.ca gmail.com> writes:
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 Looks like a fairly even spread so far, (27 votes). The higher bracket
 is low, but it is also 6-10 years, D hasn't been around much longer
 than that <.<

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 James Miller

I like the spread. Most new users and a gradual decline until we get to 6+ where a group of people are sitting. --00151747be08d8293204bc53d9a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi= n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Looks like a fair= ly even spread so far, (27 votes). The higher bracket<br> is low, but it is also 6-10 years, D hasn&#39;t been around much longer<br> than that &lt;.&lt;<br> <br> --<br> James Miller<br> </blockquote></div><br>I like the spread.=C2=A0 Most new users and a gradua= l decline until we get to 6+ where a group of people are sitting.<br> --00151747be08d8293204bc53d9a1--
Mar 28 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent "Jesse Phillips" <Jessekphillips+D gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 28 March 2012 at 20:57:25 UTC, Kevin Cox wrote:
 Looks like a fairly even spread so far, (27 votes). The higher 
 bracket
 is low, but it is also 6-10 years, D hasn't been around much 
 longer
 than that <.<

 --
 James Miller

I like the spread. Most new users and a gradual decline until we get to 6+ where a group of people are sitting.

Seems the old timers are less representative now (142 votes). Nice poll, thanks.
Mar 28 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent Kevin Cox <kevincox.ca gmail.com> writes:
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On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Jesse Phillips
<Jessekphillips+D gmail.com>wrote:

 Seems the old timers are less representative now (142 votes).

 Nice poll, thanks.

I was factoring out the different number of years in each category. I'm gonna try to create a bar graph with normalized years. 1 - ================== 2 - ========== 3 - ========== 4 - ======== 5 - ======== 6 - ======= 7 + ============== And with a little rounding 1 - ================== 2 - =========== 3 - ========= 4 - ========= 5 - ======== 6 - ====== 7 + ============== Of course 7+ is not very informative. Please note those graphs were very quick. --0015175df07abc412404bc5656fd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Jesse Phillips = <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Jessekphillips%2BD gmail.com" targe= t=3D"_blank">Jessekphillips+D gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquot= e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol= id;padding-left:1ex"> Seems the old timers are less representative now (142 votes).<br> <br> Nice poll, thanks.<br> </blockquote></div><br>I was factoring out the different number of years in= each category.=C2=A0 I&#39;m gonna try to create a bar graph with normaliz= ed years.<br><br> 1 - =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br> 2 - =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>3 - =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br=
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Mar 28 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Stewart Gordon <smjg_1998 yahoo.com> writes:
On 26/03/2012 02:18, dnewbie wrote:
 Just out of curiosity, is D attracting new users? Are the old
 users running? Place your vote here
 http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=4f6fb7e5e4b04f389e5eb66f

I see that the numbers are almost evenly balanced between the four categories. But does this really mean that we've attracted more people in the last two years than in all earlier years combined, or that an awful lot of old-timers have left? It would be good to do the poll again each year and see how the numbers compare. Stewart.
Mar 30 2012
next sibling parent reply Stewart Gordon <smjg_1998 yahoo.com> writes:
On 31/03/2012 05:25, Chris NS wrote:
<snip>
 Some of us are -- though I don't know how many are actually still "D1 people"
per se...
 I'd say most have made the jump by now. What I feel from the numbers is simply
that we
 have a mostly steady rate of community growth.

Depends what you mean by "community". It's really a matter of how many people answered the poll. The proportion the sample represents of the total number of D programmers is liable to get smaller as D becomes an ISO/ANSI/whatever standard, gains more and more third-party compilers and is adopted by more and more businesses, since many of the users will not be coming through Digital Mars and so are less likely to be active on these 'groups. And so, in the long run, the poll results are likely to understate the growth in the number of D users. Though publicising the poll in as many D-related forums as we can find will help to counter this.... Stewart.
Mar 31 2012
parent reply "Paulo Pinto" <pjmlp progtools.org> writes:
In my case, D is just one of the new upcoming languages group that I lurk 
around as
a language geek.

Besides playing with the language in toy projects, there isn't much I can do 
with it,
as  on my line of work only JVM/.NET languages are allowed, with some luck
I get to touch C++ every now and then.

--
Paulo

"Stewart Gordon"  wrote in message news:jl7pq6$2uot$1 digitalmars.com...

On 31/03/2012 05:25, Chris NS wrote:
<snip>
 Some of us are -- though I don't know how many are actually still "D1 
 people" per se...
 I'd say most have made the jump by now. What I feel from the numbers is 
 simply that we
 have a mostly steady rate of community growth.

Depends what you mean by "community". It's really a matter of how many people answered the poll. The proportion the sample represents of the total number of D programmers is liable to get smaller as D becomes an ISO/ANSI/whatever standard, gains more and more third-party compilers and is adopted by more and more businesses, since many of the users will not be coming through Digital Mars and so are less likely to be active on these 'groups. And so, in the long run, the poll results are likely to understate the growth in the number of D users. Though publicising the poll in as many D-related forums as we can find will help to counter this.... Stewart.
Apr 05 2012
parent Stewart Gordon <smjg_1998 yahoo.com> writes:
On 05/04/2012 10:49, Paulo Pinto wrote:
 In my case, D is just one of the new upcoming languages group that I lurk
around as
 a language geek.

 Besides playing with the language in toy projects, there isn't much I can do
with it,
 as on my line of work only JVM/.NET languages are allowed, with some luck
 I get to touch C++ every now and then.

There was a D.NET in the works a few years ago. Last post about it seems to have been on .announce in May 2009. Does anyone know what's happened to it since? Stewart.
Apr 05 2012
prev sibling parent reply Don Clugston <dac nospam.com> writes:
On 31/03/12 00:29, H. S. Teoh wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 11:17:47PM +0100, Stewart Gordon wrote:
 On 26/03/2012 02:18, dnewbie wrote:
 Just out of curiosity, is D attracting new users? Are the old
 users running? Place your vote here
 http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=4f6fb7e5e4b04f389e5eb66f

I see that the numbers are almost evenly balanced between the four categories. But does this really mean that we've attracted more people in the last two years than in all earlier years combined, or that an awful lot of old-timers have left?

That would be cause of great concern. Are the D1 people still around? T

There are professional, full-time D1 developers who have _never_ read the newsgroups.
Apr 04 2012
parent Don Clugston <dac nospam.com> writes:
On 04/04/12 21:06, simendsjo wrote:
 On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:27:45 +0200, Don Clugston <dac nospam.com> wrote:

 On 31/03/12 00:29, H. S. Teoh wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 11:17:47PM +0100, Stewart Gordon wrote:
 On 26/03/2012 02:18, dnewbie wrote:
 Just out of curiosity, is D attracting new users? Are the old
 users running? Place your vote here
 http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=4f6fb7e5e4b04f389e5eb66f

I see that the numbers are almost evenly balanced between the four categories. But does this really mean that we've attracted more people in the last two years than in all earlier years combined, or that an awful lot of old-timers have left?

That would be cause of great concern. Are the D1 people still around? T

There are professional, full-time D1 developers who have _never_ read the newsgroups.

They have probably not even heard the news that D1 will be discontinued..?

Possible, but I doubt that very much.
Apr 04 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent "H. S. Teoh" <hsteoh quickfur.ath.cx> writes:
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 11:17:47PM +0100, Stewart Gordon wrote:
 On 26/03/2012 02:18, dnewbie wrote:
Just out of curiosity, is D attracting new users? Are the old
users running? Place your vote here
http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=4f6fb7e5e4b04f389e5eb66f

I see that the numbers are almost evenly balanced between the four categories. But does this really mean that we've attracted more people in the last two years than in all earlier years combined, or that an awful lot of old-timers have left?

That would be cause of great concern. Are the D1 people still around? T -- This is not a sentence.
Mar 30 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent "Chris NS" <ibisbasenji gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 30 March 2012 at 22:28:40 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 11:17:47PM +0100, Stewart Gordon wrote:
 On 26/03/2012 02:18, dnewbie wrote:
Just out of curiosity, is D attracting new users? Are the old
users running? Place your vote here
http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=4f6fb7e5e4b04f389e5eb66f

I see that the numbers are almost evenly balanced between the four categories. But does this really mean that we've attracted more people in the last two years than in all earlier years combined, or that an awful lot of old-timers have left?

That would be cause of great concern. Are the D1 people still around? T

Some of us are -- though I don't know how many are actually still "D1 people" per se... I'd say most have made the jump by now. What I feel from the numbers is simply that we have a mostly steady rate of community growth.
Mar 30 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent "dnewbie" <run3 myopera.com> writes:
On Friday, 30 March 2012 at 22:17:55 UTC, Stewart Gordon wrote:
 I see that the numbers are almost evenly balanced between the 
 four categories.  But does this really mean that we've 
 attracted more people in the last two years than in all earlier 
 years combined, or that an awful lot of old-timers have left?

I want to believe that this is like a critical mass ready to explode :)
 It would be good to do the poll again each year and see how the 
 numbers compare.

 Stewart.

Mar 31 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent simendsjo <simendsjo gmail.com> writes:
On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:27:45 +0200, Don Clugston <dac nospam.com> wrote:

 On 31/03/12 00:29, H. S. Teoh wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 11:17:47PM +0100, Stewart Gordon wrote:
 On 26/03/2012 02:18, dnewbie wrote:
 Just out of curiosity, is D attracting new users? Are the old
 users running? Place your vote here
 http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=4f6fb7e5e4b04f389e5eb66f

I see that the numbers are almost evenly balanced between the four categories. But does this really mean that we've attracted more people in the last two years than in all earlier years combined, or that an awful lot of old-timers have left?

That would be cause of great concern. Are the D1 people still around? T

There are professional, full-time D1 developers who have _never_ read the newsgroups.

They have probably not even heard the news that D1 will be discontinued..?
Apr 04 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent "Jesse Phillips" <jessekphillips+D gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 4 April 2012 at 19:06:30 UTC, simendsjo wrote:

 There are professional, full-time D1 developers who have 
 _never_ read the newsgroups.

They have probably not even heard the news that D1 will be discontinued..?

Probably haven't heard there was a new compiler release either.
Apr 04 2012
prev sibling parent "Kagamin" <spam here.lot> writes:
On Thursday, 5 April 2012 at 10:50:18 UTC, Stewart Gordon wrote:
 There was a D.NET in the works a few years ago.  Last post 
 about it seems to have been on .announce in May 2009.  Does 
 anyone know what's happened to it since?

He had a very ambitious plan to compile phobos. That was too bold to work.
Apr 05 2012