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reply "Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:
This is very very annoying. Every time I open one of these messages I get  
a huge pregnant 5-second pause, along with the Mac Beach Ball (hourglass)  
while this message is opened in my news reader.

Whatever this is, can we get rid of it?

-Steve
Apr 17 2014
next sibling parent reply Nick Sabalausky <SeeWebsiteToContactMe semitwist.com> writes:
On 4/17/2014 8:51 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
 Every time I open one of these messages I
 get a huge pregnant 5-second pause, along with the Mac Beach Ball
 (hourglass) while this message is opened in my news reader.

Sounds like something's wrong with your news reader.
Apr 17 2014
parent reply Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 4/17/2014 8:56 PM, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
 Its not the client, its happening on the web interface as well.
 Most notably for Manu's posts.

I noticed for a while now that Manu's posts are very large, even though there aren't that many lines of text in them. Examining the posting source shows that the content of Manu's posts are repeated, once in HTML and once in plain text. Perhaps the delay is because your newsreader is trying to load an HTML rendering engine for Manu's posts, which it would not for regular text ones.
Apr 21 2014
parent reply Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 4/21/2014 8:59 PM, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
 I still haven't worked out how to even use a newsreader with the ntp server.
I'm
 still relying on the web interface. So I'm definitely not alone in seeing this
one.

Thunderbird is a very good newsreader. A lot of folks here use it.
Apr 21 2014
parent Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 4/21/2014 10:49 PM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 I like gmail. I've been using it for the better part of 10 years, and
 I can access it from anywhere. Installing client software to read
 email feels like I'm back on my Amiga in the 90's ;)

Congrats on fixing it so it doesn't send the html version! This is much better.
Apr 22 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent "Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:29:47 -0400, Nick Sabalausky  
<SeeWebsiteToContactMe semitwist.com> wrote:

 On 4/17/2014 8:51 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
 Every time I open one of these messages I
 get a huge pregnant 5-second pause, along with the Mac Beach Ball
 (hourglass) while this message is opened in my news reader.

Sounds like something's wrong with your news reader.

But it only happens on these messages that come "via Digitamars-d," and consistently so. What could be the difference. I've used this newsreader for years (opera), never had this problem. -Steve
Apr 17 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent "Rikki Cattermole" <alphaglosined gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 17 April 2014 at 21:30:04 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
 On 4/17/2014 8:51 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
 Every time I open one of these messages I
 get a huge pregnant 5-second pause, along with the Mac Beach 
 Ball
 (hourglass) while this message is opened in my news reader.

Sounds like something's wrong with your news reader.

Its not the client, its happening on the web interface as well. Most notably for Manu's posts.
Apr 17 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent "Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 08:51:33 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer  
<schveiguy yahoo.com> wrote:

 This is very very annoying. Every time I open one of these messages I  
 get a huge pregnant 5-second pause, along with the Mac Beach Ball  
 (hourglass) while this message is opened in my news reader.

 Whatever this is, can we get rid of it?

another side-effect: no threading is occurring on d.bugs on my newsreader. It used to thread these messages properly. For some reason, the long pauses have gone away. -Steve
Apr 21 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent "Rikki Cattermole" <alphaglosined gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 21 April 2014 at 23:07:28 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 On 4/17/2014 8:56 PM, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
 Its not the client, its happening on the web interface as well.
 Most notably for Manu's posts.

I noticed for a while now that Manu's posts are very large, even though there aren't that many lines of text in them. Examining the posting source shows that the content of Manu's posts are repeated, once in HTML and once in plain text. Perhaps the delay is because your newsreader is trying to load an HTML rendering engine for Manu's posts, which it would not for regular text ones.

I still haven't worked out how to even use a newsreader with the ntp server. I'm still relying on the web interface. So I'm definitely not alone in seeing this one.
Apr 21 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent Manu via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
On 22 April 2014 14:54, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
<digitalmars-d puremagic.com> wrote:
 On 4/21/2014 8:59 PM, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
 I still haven't worked out how to even use a newsreader with the ntp
 server. I'm
 still relying on the web interface. So I'm definitely not alone in seeing
 this one.

Thunderbird is a very good newsreader. A lot of folks here use it.

I tried it for a bit. Couldn't get used to it. It just felt like an inconvenience. I'm sure it's great, it's just unfamiliar to me, and it feels a bit over-kill installing a whole big software package for no reason other than reading one mailing list. I like gmail. I've been using it for the better part of 10 years, and I can access it from anywhere. Installing client software to read email feels like I'm back on my Amiga in the 90's ;)
Apr 21 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent =?UTF-8?B?QWxpIMOHZWhyZWxp?= <acehreli yahoo.com> writes:
On 04/17/2014 05:51 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

 This is very very annoying.

Also, I don't think the "From" field is the right place for the information of where the message was sent from. Ali
Apr 21 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent "Rikki Cattermole" <alphaglosined gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 22 April 2014 at 04:54:44 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 On 4/21/2014 8:59 PM, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
 I still haven't worked out how to even use a newsreader with 
 the ntp server. I'm
 still relying on the web interface. So I'm definitely not 
 alone in seeing this one.

Thunderbird is a very good newsreader. A lot of folks here use it.

I've actually attempted at it, but I'm a little bit newbyish with newsgroups. Really could use a proper tutorial on this subject.
Apr 21 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent "Regan Heath" <regan netmail.co.nz> writes:
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 22:32:31 +0100, Steven Schveighoffer  
<schveiguy yahoo.com> wrote:

 On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:29:47 -0400, Nick Sabalausky  
 <SeeWebsiteToContactMe semitwist.com> wrote:

 On 4/17/2014 8:51 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
 Every time I open one of these messages I
 get a huge pregnant 5-second pause, along with the Mac Beach Ball
 (hourglass) while this message is opened in my news reader.

Sounds like something's wrong with your news reader.

But it only happens on these messages that come "via Digitamars-d," and consistently so. What could be the difference. I've used this newsreader for years (opera), never had this problem.

Opera on windows does not suffer from the same issue. I see no delays for these messages.. R -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Apr 22 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent Manu via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
On 22 April 2014 19:00, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
<digitalmars-d puremagic.com> wrote:
 On 4/21/2014 10:49 PM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 I like gmail. I've been using it for the better part of 10 years, and
 I can access it from anywhere. Installing client software to read
 email feels like I'm back on my Amiga in the 90's ;)

Congrats on fixing it so it doesn't send the html version! This is much better.

Yeah sorry. I could never tell the difference. Since it's not a full client, it doesn't have features like raw-view or anything.
Apr 22 2014
prev sibling parent Marco Leise <Marco.Leise gmx.de> writes:
Am Tue, 22 Apr 2014 20:47:13 +1000
schrieb Manu via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com>:

 On 22 April 2014 19:00, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
 <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> wrote:
 On 4/21/2014 10:49 PM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 I like gmail. I've been using it for the better part of 10 years, and
 I can access it from anywhere. Installing client software to read
 email feels like I'm back on my Amiga in the 90's ;)



I feel quite the opposite. Recently my email provider lured me into some paid option by cleverly placing a "buy" option right after the login where you expect some "inbox" button. With a client software you know what you have. Things don't unexpectedly change. You can have your messages on your computer and don't depend on internet and server uptime. Well, I'd say that about any cloud service I guess.
 Congrats on fixing it so it doesn't send the html version! This is much
 better.

Yeah sorry. I could never tell the difference. Since it's not a full client, it doesn't have features like raw-view or anything.

If posts actually contain something that cannot be represented in plain text I don't mind some HTML. All posts load quickly in Claws Mail anyways, regardless of mime-type. It's just not so exciting to view the very same text message with a non-default font. :p -- Marco
Apr 23 2014