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reply "Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> writes:
(Sorry for this being so wildly off-topic, but this is the only place I can 
think of where I already trust the people around to know what they're 
talking about.)

Anyone know of a good webhost? I'm looking for something that matches all of 
these criteria (not in any order):

1. All the basics: Linux/Apache (BSD and/or Nginx might possibly be ok), 
PHP, MySQL (MySQL+PostgreSQL is a plus), POP3, SMTP, FTP.
2. SSH access.
3. Allows natively-compiled CGI (and not just a group of pre-selected 
pre-packaged CGI apps).
4. They don't make server changes without notifying you via email. And with 
fair lead-time whenever possible. And none of that "We only notify via 
twitter" bullshit.
5. They don't have a tendency to screw things up when making server changes.
6. None of your contact or other settings have a tendency to get reverted to 
old values.
7. All control panels work without JS, popups, Flash or any other such 
bullshit.
8. Allows me to use a domain name I've obtained elsewhere.
9. Allows me to use an SSL/TLS cert I've obtained elsewhere.
10. Doesn't use any Indian tech support.
11. Support is fast.
12. Support is overall good.
13. Has good uptime and performance.
14. Generally seem to know what they're doing and are professional.
15. No more than about $20/mo.
16. Large number of email addresses (probably about 30 absolute minimum).
17. Actually know WTF they're doing WRT security. Ex:
      17.A. They never send any passwords through unencrypted email.
      17.B. They understand that signed email is not the same as encrypted 
email.
      17.C. Support never asks for your password.
      17.D. Support makes reasonable effort to make sure you are who you 
claim to be.
      17.E. Their control panel is 100% HTTPS (and not susceptible to 
session hijacking).
      17.F. Supports secure FTP connections.
      17.G. Performs sufficiently well on this: 
https://www.ssllabs.com/ssldb/
18. No other stupid surprise bullshit that I haven't come across yet.
19. Frontpage extensions...(just kidding!!)

Believe it or not, for every single one of those items there, I've actually 
dealt with a host that failed on it (except maybe the "All the basics" and 
the "domain/SSL/TLS obtained elsewhere" things). I've never even come across 
a host that matched all of them (except maybe virtual or dedicated hosting, 
but I can't afford those).

Some of the hosts I've already dealt with and consider to be crap:

- 1&1
- Godaddy (only dealt with them for domains, but man are they bad for that)
- iPower (tied for #1 worst)
- Dreamhost (tied for #1 worst)
- Brinkster

I'm currently with 100megswebhosting, and they're the #1 best I've ever come 
across. But even at that they still have their problems (#4, 5, 6, 7, and 
17.A.) and I'd really like to find something better.
Sep 13 2011
next sibling parent reply Josh Simmons <simmons.44 gmail.com> writes:
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Nick Sabalausky <a a.a> wrote:
 (Sorry for this being so wildly off-topic, but this is the only place I c=

 think of where I already trust the people around to know what they're
 talking about.)

 Anyone know of a good webhost? I'm looking for something that matches all=

 these criteria (not in any order):

 1. All the basics: Linux/Apache (BSD and/or Nginx might possibly be ok),
 PHP, MySQL (MySQL+PostgreSQL is a plus), POP3, SMTP, FTP.
 2. SSH access.
 3. Allows natively-compiled CGI (and not just a group of pre-selected
 pre-packaged CGI apps).
 4. They don't make server changes without notifying you via email. And wi=

 fair lead-time whenever possible. And none of that "We only notify via
 twitter" bullshit.
 5. They don't have a tendency to screw things up when making server chang=

 6. None of your contact or other settings have a tendency to get reverted=

 old values.
 7. All control panels work without JS, popups, Flash or any other such
 bullshit.
 8. Allows me to use a domain name I've obtained elsewhere.
 9. Allows me to use an SSL/TLS cert I've obtained elsewhere.
 10. Doesn't use any Indian tech support.
 11. Support is fast.
 12. Support is overall good.
 13. Has good uptime and performance.
 14. Generally seem to know what they're doing and are professional.
 15. No more than about $20/mo.
 16. Large number of email addresses (probably about 30 absolute minimum).
 17. Actually know WTF they're doing WRT security. Ex:
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A017.A. They never send any passwords through unencrypt=

 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A017.B. They understand that signed email is not the sa=

 email.
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A017.C. Support never asks for your password.
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A017.D. Support makes reasonable effort to make sure yo=

 claim to be.
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A017.E. Their control panel is 100% HTTPS (and not susc=

 session hijacking).
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A017.F. Supports secure FTP connections.
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A017.G. Performs sufficiently well on this:
 https://www.ssllabs.com/ssldb/
 18. No other stupid surprise bullshit that I haven't come across yet.
 19. Frontpage extensions...(just kidding!!)

 Believe it or not, for every single one of those items there, I've actual=

 dealt with a host that failed on it (except maybe the "All the basics" an=

 the "domain/SSL/TLS obtained elsewhere" things). I've never even come acr=

 a host that matched all of them (except maybe virtual or dedicated hostin=

 but I can't afford those).

 Some of the hosts I've already dealt with and consider to be crap:

 - 1&1
 - Godaddy (only dealt with them for domains, but man are they bad for tha=

 - iPower (tied for #1 worst)
 - Dreamhost (tied for #1 worst)
 - Brinkster

 I'm currently with 100megswebhosting, and they're the #1 best I've ever c=

 across. But even at that they still have their problems (#4, 5, 6, 7, and
 17.A.) and I'd really like to find something better.

linode or slicehost
Sep 14 2011
parent "Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> writes:
"Josh Simmons" <simmons.44 gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:mailman.2861.1315985349.14074.digitalmars-d puremagic.com...
linode or slicehost

Thanks. Just looked over their sites. I'm really impressed with linode so far. They seem respectable from what I can tell, and I had no idea it was possible to get VPS for $20/mo. That would be so much nicer than being at the mercy of a shared host doing all their own configuring.
Sep 14 2011
prev sibling next sibling parent Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 9/14/11 1:40 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
 Some of the hosts I've already dealt with and consider to be crap:

 - 1&1
 - Godaddy (only dealt with them for domains, but man are they bad for that)
 - iPower (tied for #1 worst)
 - Dreamhost (tied for #1 worst)
 - Brinkster

Love the dreamhost. Andrei
Sep 14 2011
prev sibling next sibling parent Jesse Phillips <jessekphillips+D gmail.com> writes:
I'll mention SDF Lonestar, but I don't think it meets the entire list.

http://sdf.org/?join

I'll make some comments below. But probably doesn't meet the pricing
requirement.

Nick Sabalausky Wrote:

 (Sorry for this being so wildly off-topic, but this is the only place I can 
 think of where I already trust the people around to know what they're 
 talking about.)
 
 Anyone know of a good webhost? I'm looking for something that matches all of 
 these criteria (not in any order):
 
 1. All the basics: Linux/Apache (BSD and/or Nginx might possibly be ok), 
 PHP, MySQL (MySQL+PostgreSQL is a plus), POP3, SMTP, FTP.

Yes.
 2. SSH access.

Yes.
 3. Allows natively-compiled CGI (and not just a group of pre-selected 
 pre-packaged CGI apps).

Maybe, might be able to work it.
 4. They don't make server changes without notifying you via email. And with 
 fair lead-time whenever possible. And none of that "We only notify via 
 twitter" bullshit.

Don't know about this, but I think they have done this.
 5. They don't have a tendency to screw things up when making server changes.

Yes.
 6. None of your contact or other settings have a tendency to get reverted to 
 old values.

Don't think so.
 7. All control panels work without JS, popups, Flash or any other such 
 bullshit.

Everything is done from the shell.
 8. Allows me to use a domain name I've obtained elsewhere.

Think so.
 9. Allows me to use an SSL/TLS cert I've obtained elsewhere.

Yes.
 10. Doesn't use any Indian tech support.

Probably not.
 11. Support is fast.
 12. Support is overall good.

Possibly, but hopefully you won't need it.
 13. Has good uptime and performance.
 14. Generally seem to know what they're doing and are professional.

Seems to.
 15. No more than about $20/mo.

Pricing depends on what packages you need, many are by year.
 16. Large number of email addresses (probably about 30 absolute minimum).

Doesn't look like it.
 17. Actually know WTF they're doing WRT security. Ex:

Seems to me this is true.
       17.A. They never send any passwords through unencrypted email.
       17.B. They understand that signed email is not the same as encrypted 
 email.
       17.C. Support never asks for your password.
       17.D. Support makes reasonable effort to make sure you are who you 
 claim to be.
       17.E. Their control panel is 100% HTTPS (and not susceptible to 
 session hijacking).
       17.F. Supports secure FTP connections.
       17.G. Performs sufficiently well on this: 
 https://www.ssllabs.com/ssldb/
 18. No other stupid surprise bullshit that I haven't come across yet.
 19. Frontpage extensions...(just kidding!!)

Sep 14 2011
prev sibling next sibling parent a <a a.com> writes:
You could try one of the cheap VPS listed on http://www.lowendbox.com/.
I don't know about the support and reliability of those hosts, though.
Sep 14 2011
prev sibling parent Josh Simmons <simmons.44 gmail.com> writes:
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:01 AM, Nick Sabalausky <a a.a> wrote:
 "Josh Simmons" <simmons.44 gmail.com> wrote in message
 news:mailman.2861.1315985349.14074.digitalmars-d puremagic.com...
linode or slicehost

Thanks. Just looked over their sites. I'm really impressed with linode so far. They seem respectable from what I can tell, and I had no idea it was possible to get VPS for $20/mo. That would be so much nicer than being at the mercy of a shared host doing all their own configuring.

Yeah linode are really reliable as well, great performance and great support. I used slicehost before and they were equally good but a tad more expensive. Here's my linode referral code for good measure :D c64b20c679d3ae36fab15d5e2f2bb3cd65c3c96f
Sep 14 2011