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reply Lionello Lunesu <lionello lunesu.remove.com> writes:
Hi all,

After last year's incident with my tires getting slashed, I'm really 
hoping I can do without a car during this year's DConf. How feasible is 
this?

I'll be staying at Aloft. Would be great if there's someone I can share 
a ride with. I've also seen there's a public bus going more or less to 
FB and back, so I should be good there. (Right?)

But how about getting to SFO or down town? Am I causing myself a whole 
lot of pain (albeit of a different kind) by not renting a car? To be 
clear, I'm not looking for an economical option, just peace of mind.

Lio.
May 05 2014
next sibling parent reply "Mike" <none none.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 6 May 2014 at 02:20:46 UTC, Lionello Lunesu wrote:
 Hi all,

 After last year's incident with my tires getting slashed, I'm 
 really hoping I can do without a car during this year's DConf. 
 How feasible is this?

 I'll be staying at Aloft. Would be great if there's someone I 
 can share a ride with. I've also seen there's a public bus 
 going more or less to FB and back, so I should be good there. 
 (Right?)

 But how about getting to SFO or down town? Am I causing myself 
 a whole lot of pain (albeit of a different kind) by not renting 
 a car? To be clear, I'm not looking for an economical option, 
 just peace of mind.

 Lio.

I'm wondering about this myself. My current plan to get from SFO to the Aloft is via BART (SFO -> Balboa Park -> Bay Fair -> Freemont) and then take a bus or a taxi from Freemont to the hotel. It looks like one could take bus 200 from the Aloft to the Ardenwood Park-and-ride, transfer to bus DB, and cross the bridge to Facebook. But, thinking about it a little more, a car is starting to look pretty good. Mike
May 06 2014
next sibling parent Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 5/6/2014 9:11 PM, Mike wrote:
 But, thinking about it a little more, a car is starting to look pretty good.

I had a car last year, and we stuffed it to the gills with people going between FB and Aloft. Will do so again this year.
May 06 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 5/14/2014 2:35 PM, Joshua Niehus wrote:
 (want to get there in time for breakfast)

I share your priorities!
May 14 2014
prev sibling parent reply Lionello Lunesu <lionello lunesu.remove.com> writes:
On 07/05/14 06:11, Mike wrote:
 On Tuesday, 6 May 2014 at 02:20:46 UTC, Lionello Lunesu wrote:
 Hi all,

 After last year's incident with my tires getting slashed, I'm really
 hoping I can do without a car during this year's DConf. How feasible
 is this?

 I'll be staying at Aloft. Would be great if there's someone I can
 share a ride with. I've also seen there's a public bus going more or
 less to FB and back, so I should be good there. (Right?)

 But how about getting to SFO or down town? Am I causing myself a whole
 lot of pain (albeit of a different kind) by not renting a car? To be
 clear, I'm not looking for an economical option, just peace of mind.

 Lio.

I'm wondering about this myself. My current plan to get from SFO to the Aloft is via BART (SFO -> Balboa Park -> Bay Fair -> Freemont) and then take a bus or a taxi from Freemont to the hotel. It looks like one could take bus 200 from the Aloft to the Ardenwood Park-and-ride, transfer to bus DB, and cross the bridge to Facebook. But, thinking about it a little more, a car is starting to look pretty good. Mike

The GM from Aloft replied to my inquiry about transportation: "There are shuttles at the airport and you can always arrange for one to take you back from the hotel as well. Public transportation options would be the BART which is our local subway system. This can take you from SFO to the Union City Bart Station which has cabs posted outside and it is then just a 10-15 cab ride to the hotel." Have inquired further how to recognize the shuttles at SFO. L.
May 19 2014
parent reply Lionello Lunesu <lionello lunesu.remove.com> writes:
On 19/05/14 15:37, Lionello Lunesu wrote:
 Have inquired further how to recognize the shuttles at SFO.

FYI: http://www.flysfo.com/to-from/ebs/shared-ride-vans
May 19 2014
next sibling parent reply Lionello Lunesu <lionello lunesu.remove.com> writes:
On 20/05/14 07:21, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 On 19 May 2014 23:07, Lionello Lunesu via Digitalmars-d
 <digitalmars-d puremagic.com <mailto:digitalmars-d puremagic.com>> wrote:

     On 19/05/14 15:37, Lionello Lunesu wrote:

         Have inquired further how to recognize the shuttles at SFO.


     FYI: http://www.flysfo.com/to-from/__ebs/shared-ride-vans
     <http://www.flysfo.com/to-from/ebs/shared-ride-vans>


 Yeah, shuttles is how Manu got to Aloft last year.  IIRC it's useful
 only if you are shared with people going in the same direction.

 FYI:  BART is $11, and taxi from Union -> Aloft is $20.

Yeah, it's cheap if you are part of 1 "party", then it's $10 for any additional person. I'll arrive at SFO on May 20, 6:24 PM. I can stick around SFO for an hour or so if there's others in that time frame that want to share a shuttle to Aloft. Email me lio lunesu, or wechat 'lionello'. L.
May 19 2014
parent Lionello Lunesu <lionello lunesu.remove.com> writes:
On 20/05/14 09:27, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 FYI I was stuck at border control for 2 hours - incase anyone else is an
 alien.

I just passed customs in Chicago. Never entered the US so easily. Interestingly, it was much easier this time (leisure) than when I used to fly to US for business when working for Microsoft(!). L.
May 20 2014
prev sibling parent reply =?UTF-8?B?QWxpIMOHZWhyZWxp?= <acehreli yahoo.com> writes:
On 05/20/2014 09:47 AM, Robert BuRnEr Schadek via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 what about tonight

I am 101% sure people will be at Aloft. I will be. :) Ali
May 20 2014
parent =?UTF-8?B?QWxpIMOHZWhyZWxp?= <acehreli yahoo.com> writes:
On 05/20/2014 11:17 AM, Robert BuRnEr Schadek via Digitalmars-d wrote:

 I am 101% sure people will be at Aloft. I will be. :)

lobby/bar?

7pm for me.
 Can you eat at Aloft, even if you're not staying there?

Yes. Ali
May 20 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent "Kai Nacke" <kai redstar.de> writes:
On Tuesday, 6 May 2014 at 02:20:46 UTC, Lionello Lunesu wrote:
 Hi all,

 After last year's incident with my tires getting slashed, I'm 
 really hoping I can do without a car during this year's DConf. 
 How feasible is this?

 I'll be staying at Aloft. Would be great if there's someone I 
 can share a ride with. I've also seen there's a public bus 
 going more or less to FB and back, so I should be good there. 
 (Right?)

 But how about getting to SFO or down town? Am I causing myself 
 a whole lot of pain (albeit of a different kind) by not renting 
 a car? To be clear, I'm not looking for an economical option, 
 just peace of mind.

 Lio.

Hi! I attended last year's D conf and visited San Francisco the year before - both times without a car. There is a bus stop near Facebook. You can go via train (from Palo Alto) to San Francisco downtown or go by bus to the other side of the bay and use the sub (takes more time). In San Francisco you have the sub, trams and busses. You can check the connection with the routing planer from Google maps. (Hint: for the bus you need the exact change. At least for an European this is somewhat unusual.) Regards, Kai
May 06 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
On 7 May 2014 05:32, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
<digitalmars-d puremagic.com> wrote:
 On 5/6/2014 9:11 PM, Mike wrote:
 But, thinking about it a little more, a car is starting to look pretty
 good.

I had a car last year, and we stuffed it to the gills with people going between FB and Aloft. Will do so again this year.

Speaking of cars, what time will people be down in the lobby at aloft?
May 07 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent Robert Schadek via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
On 05/07/2014 06:32 AM, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 I had a car last year, and we stuffed it to the gills with people
 going between FB and Aloft. Will do so again this year.

I can take three people from FB to Aloft and back to anywhere between FB and Main Street.
May 07 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
On Tue, 06 May 2014 10:20:45 +0800
Lionello Lunesu via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> wrote:

 Hi all,

 After last year's incident with my tires getting slashed, I'm really
 hoping I can do without a car during this year's DConf. How feasible
 is this?

 I'll be staying at Aloft. Would be great if there's someone I can
 share a ride with. I've also seen there's a public bus going more or
 less to FB and back, so I should be good there. (Right?)

 But how about getting to SFO or down town? Am I causing myself a
 whole lot of pain (albeit of a different kind) by not renting a car?
 To be clear, I'm not looking for an economical option, just peace of
 mind.

While getting around in that area without a car is certainly possible, it's also going to be far more of a pain, and the odds of your tires being slashed even once are quite low, let alone a second time. So, I'd suggest that you just rent a car and not worry about your tires getting slashed. Clearly, you were quite unlucky last year, but I'd be very surprised if you were that unlucky again. Obviously, it's up to you though. - Jonathan M Davis
May 07 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent "Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:
On Wed, 07 May 2014 00:11:45 -0400, Mike <none none.com> wrote:

 On Tuesday, 6 May 2014 at 02:20:46 UTC, Lionello Lunesu wrote:
 Hi all,

 After last year's incident with my tires getting slashed, I'm really  
 hoping I can do without a car during this year's DConf. How feasible is  
 this?

 I'll be staying at Aloft. Would be great if there's someone I can share  
 a ride with. I've also seen there's a public bus going more or less to  
 FB and back, so I should be good there. (Right?)

 But how about getting to SFO or down town? Am I causing myself a whole  
 lot of pain (albeit of a different kind) by not renting a car? To be  
 clear, I'm not looking for an economical option, just peace of mind.

 Lio.

I'm wondering about this myself. My current plan to get from SFO to the Aloft is via BART (SFO -> Balboa Park -> Bay Fair -> Freemont) and then take a bus or a taxi from Freemont to the hotel.

Just FYI, I took BART and buses to my hotel last year, it took 2.5 hours. When Andrew drove me back to the airport from facebook, it took 30 minutes. Something to think about :) Also, the site 511.org is awesome for using public transportation in the bay area.
 But, thinking about it a little more, a car is starting to look pretty  
 good.

I will have a car this year, and will play taxi driver from Aloft to facebook. -Steve
May 08 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent "Jonas Drewsen" <nospam4321 hotmail.com > writes:
On Thursday, 8 May 2014 at 14:34:13 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer 
wrote:
 On Wed, 07 May 2014 00:11:45 -0400, Mike <none none.com> wrote:

 On Tuesday, 6 May 2014 at 02:20:46 UTC, Lionello Lunesu wrote:
 Hi all,

 After last year's incident with my tires getting slashed, I'm 
 really hoping I can do without a car during this year's 
 DConf. How feasible is this?

 I'll be staying at Aloft. Would be great if there's someone I 
 can share a ride with. I've also seen there's a public bus 
 going more or less to FB and back, so I should be good there. 
 (Right?)

 But how about getting to SFO or down town? Am I causing 
 myself a whole lot of pain (albeit of a different kind) by 
 not renting a car? To be clear, I'm not looking for an 
 economical option, just peace of mind.

 Lio.

I'm wondering about this myself. My current plan to get from SFO to the Aloft is via BART (SFO -> Balboa Park -> Bay Fair -> Freemont) and then take a bus or a taxi from Freemont to the hotel.

Just FYI, I took BART and buses to my hotel last year, it took 2.5 hours. When Andrew drove me back to the airport from facebook, it took 30 minutes. Something to think about :) Also, the site 511.org is awesome for using public transportation in the bay area.
 But, thinking about it a little more, a car is starting to 
 look pretty good.

I will have a car this year, and will play taxi driver from Aloft to facebook.

Excellent. I need a lift if possible? Of so please tell me when I should be in the aloft lobby? /Jonas
May 09 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent "Joshua Niehus" <jm.niehus gmail.com> writes:
I live in the area and will be driving by Aloft on my way to FB.
I can fit 3 other people (sliver Rav4).  Ill just pull up with a
clever D theme sign on my car and pick up any stragglers if
needed.
May 09 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent =?UTF-8?B?QWxpIMOHZWhyZWxp?= <acehreli yahoo.com> writes:
This is an offer to all of you who will be staying somewhere on the way 
from Los Altos to FB (Mountain View and Palo Alto should be fine):

I have one available seat in my car every day of the conference for

* Going to the conference from your place

* Going to Aloft after the conference

* Going back to your place after Aloft

* Potentially driving you to the airport

If anybody needs that seat just let me know.

Ali
May 09 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent Jeremy Powers via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
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 Excellent. I need a lift if possible? Of so please tell me when I should
 be in the aloft lobby?

This seems to still be an open question - what time to gather? I will be staying at Aloft, and will not have a car. If anyone has a car and extra room, I'd be happy to bum a ride. If there are no rides I'll just get a taxi, would be happy to share with others. --047d7ba977b47b999b04f962e511 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot= e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-colo= r:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Excellent. I n= eed a lift if possible? Of so please tell me when I should be in the aloft = lobby?<br> </blockquote><div><br></div><div>This seems to still be an open question - = what time to gather?=C2=A0</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div>= <div class=3D"gmail_extra">I will be staying at Aloft, and will not have a = car.</div> <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">If anyone h= as a car and extra room, I&#39;d be happy to bum a ride.<br></div><div clas= s=3D"gmail_extra">If there are no rides I&#39;ll just get a taxi, would be = happy to share with others.</div> <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><br></div></div>= </div></div> --047d7ba977b47b999b04f962e511--
May 14 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent "Joshua Niehus" <jm.niehus gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 14 May 2014 at 21:31:08 UTC, Jeremy Powers via 
Digitalmars-d wrote:
 Excellent. I need a lift if possible? Of so please tell me 
 when I should
 be in the aloft lobby?

This seems to still be an open question - what time to gather?

I'll be there between 8am and 8:15am and will have 3 seats available (want to get there in time for breakfast)
May 14 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent "Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:
On Wed, 14 May 2014 17:35:04 -0400, Joshua Niehus <jm.niehus gmail.com>  
wrote:

 On Wednesday, 14 May 2014 at 21:31:08 UTC, Jeremy Powers via  
 Digitalmars-d wrote:
 Excellent. I need a lift if possible? Of so please tell me when I  
 should
 be in the aloft lobby?

This seems to still be an open question - what time to gather?

I'll be there between 8am and 8:15am and will have 3 seats available (want to get there in time for breakfast)

Agreed. I also will have at least 3 seats. -Steve
May 15 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Jesse Phillips" <Jesse.K.Phillips+D gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 6 May 2014 at 02:20:46 UTC, Lionello Lunesu wrote:
 Hi all,

 After last year's incident with my tires getting slashed, I'm 
 really hoping I can do without a car during this year's DConf. 
 How feasible is this?

 I'll be staying at Aloft. Would be great if there's someone I 
 can share a ride with. I've also seen there's a public bus 
 going more or less to FB and back, so I should be good there. 
 (Right?)

 But how about getting to SFO or down town? Am I causing myself 
 a whole lot of pain (albeit of a different kind) by not renting 
 a car? To be clear, I'm not looking for an economical option, 
 just peace of mind.

 Lio.

I don't have answers to your question, but figure I can pitch my daily plan. I'll a rental car with a hotel southwest of Facebook's campus (i.e. not Aloft). I plan to join any after conference party and would be able to chauffeur people around if not too far out of my general travel. But I prefer to make such agreements once I get down there.
May 16 2014
parent Mike Parker <aldacron gmail.com> writes:
On 5/17/2014 1:17 PM, Jesse Phillips wrote:

 I'll a rental car with a hotel southwest of Facebook's campus (i.e. not
 Aloft). I plan to join any after conference party and would be able to
 chauffeur people around if not too far out of my general travel. But I
 prefer to make such agreements once I get down there.

That's what I did last year. I had a minivan and could have driven 7 people around, but the most I ever had onboard was 3. The sucky part is that I had to go easy on the Sam Adams at the Aloft bar. The salmon was great, though.
May 17 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
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On 7 May 2014 05:11, Mike via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com>wrote:

 On Tuesday, 6 May 2014 at 02:20:46 UTC, Lionello Lunesu wrote:

 Hi all,

 After last year's incident with my tires getting slashed, I'm really
 hoping I can do without a car during this year's DConf. How feasible is
 this?

 I'll be staying at Aloft. Would be great if there's someone I can share a
 ride with. I've also seen there's a public bus going more or less to FB and
 back, so I should be good there. (Right?)

 But how about getting to SFO or down town? Am I causing myself a whole
 lot of pain (albeit of a different kind) by not renting a car? To be clear,
 I'm not looking for an economical option, just peace of mind.

 Lio.

I'm wondering about this myself. My current plan to get from SFO to the Aloft is via BART (SFO -> Balboa Park -> Bay Fair -> Freemont) and then take a bus or a taxi from Freemont to the hotel. It looks like one could take bus 200 from the Aloft to the Ardenwood Park-and-ride, transfer to bus DB, and cross the bridge to Facebook. But, thinking about it a little more, a car is starting to look pretty good. Mike

It might be (slightly) quicker to do SFO -> Pittsburg/Bay Point -> Fremont. Looking at fares costs, looking good to me. --001a11c1299c48029204f995e39c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">= On 7 May 2014 05:11, Mike via Digitalmars-d <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href= =3D"mailto:digitalmars-d puremagic.com" target=3D"_blank">digitalmars-d pur= emagic.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">On T= uesday, 6 May 2014 at 02:20:46 UTC, Lionello Lunesu wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi all,<br> <br> After last year&#39;s incident with my tires getting slashed, I&#39;m reall= y hoping I can do without a car during this year&#39;s DConf. How feasible = is this?<br> <br> I&#39;ll be staying at Aloft. Would be great if there&#39;s someone I can s= hare a ride with. I&#39;ve also seen there&#39;s a public bus going more or= less to FB and back, so I should be good there. (Right?)<br> <br> But how about getting to SFO or down town? Am I causing myself a whole lot = of pain (albeit of a different kind) by not renting a car? To be clear, I&#= 39;m not looking for an economical option, just peace of mind.<br> <br> Lio.<br> </blockquote> <br></div></div> I&#39;m wondering about this myself.<br> <br> My current plan to get from SFO to the Aloft is via BART (SFO -&gt; Balboa = Park -&gt; Bay Fair -&gt; Freemont) and then take a bus or a taxi from Free= mont to the hotel.<br> <br> It looks like one could take bus 200 from the Aloft to the Ardenwood Park-a= nd-ride, transfer to bus DB, and cross the bridge to Facebook.<br> <br> But, thinking about it a little more, a car is starting to look pretty good= .<br> <br> Mike</blockquote><div><br></div><div>It might be (slightly) quicker to do S= FO -&gt; Pittsburg/Bay Point=C2=A0 -&gt; Fremont.=C2=A0 Looking at fares co= sts, looking good to me. <br></div></div></div></div> --001a11c1299c48029204f995e39c--
May 17 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent "Jesse Phillips" <Jesse.K.Phillips+D gmail.com> writes:
On Saturday, 17 May 2014 at 07:49:21 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
 That's what I did last year. I had a minivan and could have 
 driven 7 people around, but the most I ever had onboard was 3. 
 The sucky part is that I had to go easy on the Sam Adams at the 
 Aloft bar. The salmon was great, though.

Well, I kind of expect most people are going to make sure their needs are met on transportation. While I'd love to arrange to do car pooling, it is challenging and with most people flying into an unfamiliar area... I don't drink, so driving isn't much of an issue. My original thoughts was going to be to take a taxi to and from the airport then bus in the morning to Facebook. But it didn't seem like it would save much money over packaging the car with the flight purchase (and wasn't sure it would go smoothly).
May 17 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Dragos Carp" <dragoscarp gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 6 May 2014 at 02:20:46 UTC, Lionello Lunesu wrote:
 Hi all,

 After last year's incident with my tires getting slashed, I'm 
 really hoping I can do without a car during this year's DConf. 
 How feasible is this?

 I'll be staying at Aloft. Would be great if there's someone I 
 can share a ride with. I've also seen there's a public bus 
 going more or less to FB and back, so I should be good there. 
 (Right?)

 But how about getting to SFO or down town? Am I causing myself 
 a whole lot of pain (albeit of a different kind) by not renting 
 a car? To be clear, I'm not looking for an economical option, 
 just peace of mind.

 Lio.

Hi all, I will also stay at Aloft and have a car (at least 3 seats available). Also if somebody arrives on Tuesday, May 20th around 5:00 pm at San Francisco International Airport and needs to get to Aloft, please leave me a message. Dragos
May 18 2014
next sibling parent Lionello Lunesu <lionello lunesu.remove.com> writes:
On 18/05/14 08:46, Dragos Carp wrote:
 On Tuesday, 6 May 2014 at 02:20:46 UTC, Lionello Lunesu wrote:
 Hi all,

 After last year's incident with my tires getting slashed, I'm really
 hoping I can do without a car during this year's DConf. How feasible
 is this?

 I'll be staying at Aloft. Would be great if there's someone I can
 share a ride with. I've also seen there's a public bus going more or
 less to FB and back, so I should be good there. (Right?)

 But how about getting to SFO or down town? Am I causing myself a whole
 lot of pain (albeit of a different kind) by not renting a car? To be
 clear, I'm not looking for an economical option, just peace of mind.

 Lio.

Hi all, I will also stay at Aloft and have a car (at least 3 seats available). Also if somebody arrives on Tuesday, May 20th around 5:00 pm at San Francisco International Airport and needs to get to Aloft, please leave me a message. Dragos

I'll arrive at 6:40pm, no check-in luggage, no customs. But don't wait on my account, I'll try to catch one of them shuttles I heard so much about. L.
May 20 2014
prev sibling parent Lionello Lunesu <lionello lunesu.remove.com> writes:
On 18/05/14 08:46, Dragos Carp wrote:
 On Tuesday, 6 May 2014 at 02:20:46 UTC, Lionello Lunesu wrote:
 Hi all,

 After last year's incident with my tires getting slashed, I'm really
 hoping I can do without a car during this year's DConf. How feasible
 is this?

 I'll be staying at Aloft. Would be great if there's someone I can
 share a ride with. I've also seen there's a public bus going more or
 less to FB and back, so I should be good there. (Right?)

 But how about getting to SFO or down town? Am I causing myself a whole
 lot of pain (albeit of a different kind) by not renting a car? To be
 clear, I'm not looking for an economical option, just peace of mind.

 Lio.

Hi all, I will also stay at Aloft and have a car (at least 3 seats available). Also if somebody arrives on Tuesday, May 20th around 5:00 pm at San Francisco International Airport and needs to get to Aloft, please leave me a message. Dragos

I'll arrive at 6:24 PM (not 6:40) from Chicago.
May 20 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
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On 18 May 2014 14:46, Dragos Carp via Digitalmars-d <
digitalmars-d puremagic.com> wrote:

 On Tuesday, 6 May 2014 at 02:20:46 UTC, Lionello Lunesu wrote:

 Hi all,

 After last year's incident with my tires getting slashed, I'm really
 hoping I can do without a car during this year's DConf. How feasible is
 this?

 I'll be staying at Aloft. Would be great if there's someone I can share a
 ride with. I've also seen there's a public bus going more or less to FB and
 back, so I should be good there. (Right?)

 But how about getting to SFO or down town? Am I causing myself a whole
 lot of pain (albeit of a different kind) by not renting a car? To be clear,
 I'm not looking for an economical option, just peace of mind.

 Lio.

Hi all, I will also stay at Aloft and have a car (at least 3 seats available). Also if somebody arrives on Tuesday, May 20th around 5:00 pm at San Francisco International Airport and needs to get to Aloft, please leave me a message. Dragos

Unless I bump into Walter and Brad this year, I'd take up on any offer. :-) --001a113a637280573c04f9af27e0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 <div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On 18 May 2014 14:46, Dragos Carp via Digitalmars-d <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:digitalmars-d puremagic.com" target="_blank">digitalmars-d puremagic.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="">On Tuesday, 6 May 2014 at 02:20:46 UTC, Lionello Lunesu wrote:<br> </div><div><div class="h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi all,<br> <br> After last year&#39;s incident with my tires getting slashed, I&#39;m really hoping I can do without a car during this year&#39;s DConf. How feasible is this?<br> <br> I&#39;ll be staying at Aloft. Would be great if there&#39;s someone I can share a ride with. I&#39;ve also seen there&#39;s a public bus going more or less to FB and back, so I should be good there. (Right?)<br> <br> But how about getting to SFO or down town? Am I causing myself a whole lot of pain (albeit of a different kind) by not renting a car? To be clear, I&#39;m not looking for an economical option, just peace of mind.<br> <br> Lio.<br> </blockquote> <br></div></div> Hi all,<br> <br> I will also stay at Aloft and have a car (at least 3 seats<br> available). Also if somebody arrives on Tuesday, May 20th around<br> 5:00 pm at San Francisco International Airport and needs to get<br> to Aloft, please leave me a message.<br> <br> Dragos<br> </blockquote></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br>Unless I bump into Walter and Brad this year, I&#39;d take up on any offer. :-)<br></div></div> --001a113a637280573c04f9af27e0--
May 18 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent "Adam Wilson" <flyboynw gmail.com> writes:
On Mon, 05 May 2014 19:20:45 -0700, Lionello Lunesu  
<lionello lunesu.remove.com> wrote:

 Hi all,

 After last year's incident with my tires getting slashed, I'm really  
 hoping I can do without a car during this year's DConf. How feasible is  
 this?

 I'll be staying at Aloft. Would be great if there's someone I can share  
 a ride with. I've also seen there's a public bus going more or less to  
 FB and back, so I should be good there. (Right?)

 But how about getting to SFO or down town? Am I causing myself a whole  
 lot of pain (albeit of a different kind) by not renting a car? To be  
 clear, I'm not looking for an economical option, just peace of mind.

 Lio.

I'll have room for a couple of people plus bags. I should have my car by 5:30PM Tuesday for anyone arriving around that time. And I'll be staying at Aloft. -- Adam Wilson GitHub/IRC: LightBender Aurora Project Coordinator
May 18 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
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On 19 May 2014 23:07, Lionello Lunesu via Digitalmars-d <
digitalmars-d puremagic.com> wrote:

 On 19/05/14 15:37, Lionello Lunesu wrote:

 Have inquired further how to recognize the shuttles at SFO.

FYI: http://www.flysfo.com/to-from/ebs/shared-ride-vans

if you are shared with people going in the same direction. FYI: BART is $11, and taxi from Union -> Aloft is $20. --001a11c13d5c4b536b04f9ce0e09 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">= On 19 May 2014 23:07, Lionello Lunesu via Digitalmars-d <span dir=3D"ltr">&= lt;<a href=3D"mailto:digitalmars-d puremagic.com" target=3D"_blank">digital= mars-d puremagic.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"">On 19/05/14 15:37, Lionello = Lunesu wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Have inquired further how to recognize the shuttles at SFO.<br> </blockquote> <br></div> FYI: <a href=3D"http://www.flysfo.com/to-from/ebs/shared-ride-vans" target= =3D"_blank">http://www.flysfo.com/to-from/<u></u>ebs/shared-ride-vans</a><b= r> <br> </blockquote></div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Yeah, shuttles is h= ow Manu got to Aloft last year.=C2=A0 IIRC it&#39;s useful only if you are = shared with people going in the same direction.<br><br></div><div class=3D"= gmail_extra"> FYI:=C2=A0 BART is $11, and taxi from Union -&gt; Aloft is $20.<br></div></= div> --001a11c13d5c4b536b04f9ce0e09--
May 19 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
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On 20 May 2014 06:21, Iain Buclaw <ibuclaw gdcproject.org> wrote:

 On 19 May 2014 23:07, Lionello Lunesu via Digitalmars-d <
 digitalmars-d puremagic.com> wrote:

 On 19/05/14 15:37, Lionello Lunesu wrote:

 Have inquired further how to recognize the shuttles at SFO.

FYI: http://www.flysfo.com/to-from/ebs/shared-ride-vans

if you are shared with people going in the same direction. FYI: BART is $11, and taxi from Union -> Aloft is $20.

Speaking of which, I'm at Aloft now if there's anyone around for a drink or chat. :) --047d7bea3a346ddddb04f9ce13df Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 2= 0 May 2014 06:21, Iain Buclaw <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ibucl= aw gdcproject.org" target=3D"_blank">ibuclaw gdcproject.org</a>&gt;</span> = wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div class=3D"h5"><div= class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 19 May 2014 23:07,= Lionello Lunesu via Digitalmars-d <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:= digitalmars-d puremagic.com" target=3D"_blank">digitalmars-d puremagic.com<= /a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>On 19/05/14 15:37, Lionello Lunesu wrot= e:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Have inquired further how to recognize the shuttles at SFO.<br> </blockquote> <br></div> FYI: <a href=3D"http://www.flysfo.com/to-from/ebs/shared-ride-vans" target= =3D"_blank">http://www.flysfo.com/to-from/<u></u>ebs/shared-ride-vans</a><b= r> <br> </blockquote></div><br></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Yeah, s= huttles is how Manu got to Aloft last year.=C2=A0 IIRC it&#39;s useful only= if you are shared with people going in the same direction.<br><br></div><d= iv class=3D"gmail_extra"> FYI:=C2=A0 BART is $11, and taxi from Union -&gt; Aloft is $20.<br></div></= div> </blockquote></div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Speaking of which, = I&#39;m at Aloft now if there&#39;s anyone around for a drink or chat. :)<b= r></div></div> --047d7bea3a346ddddb04f9ce13df--
May 19 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
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On 19 May 2014 22:50, "Lionello Lunesu via Digitalmars-d" <
digitalmars-d puremagic.com> wrote:
 On 20/05/14 07:21, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 On 19 May 2014 23:07, Lionello Lunesu via Digitalmars-d
 <digitalmars-d puremagic.com <mailto:digitalmars-d puremagic.com>> wrote:

     On 19/05/14 15:37, Lionello Lunesu wrote:

         Have inquired further how to recognize the shuttles at SFO.


     FYI: http://www.flysfo.com/to-from/__ebs/shared-ride-vans

     <http://www.flysfo.com/to-from/ebs/shared-ride-vans>


 Yeah, shuttles is how Manu got to Aloft last year.  IIRC it's useful
 only if you are shared with people going in the same direction.

 FYI:  BART is $11, and taxi from Union -> Aloft is $20.

Yeah, it's cheap if you are part of 1 "party", then it's $10 for any

 I'll arrive at SFO on May 20, 6:24 PM. I can stick around SFO for an hour

Aloft. Email me lio lunesu, or wechat 'lionello'.
 L.

FYI I was stuck at border control for 2 hours - incase anyone else is an alien. --089e01681318eeec1f04f9d5aee3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <p dir=3D"ltr"><br> On 19 May 2014 22:50, &quot;Lionello Lunesu via Digitalmars-d&quot; &lt;<a = href=3D"mailto:digitalmars-d puremagic.com">digitalmars-d puremagic.com</a>= &gt; wrote:<br> &gt;<br> &gt; On 20/05/14 07:21, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:<br> &gt;&gt;<br> &gt;&gt;<br> &gt;&gt; On 19 May 2014 23:07, Lionello Lunesu via Digitalmars-d<br> &gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:digitalmars-d puremagic.com">digitalmars-d p= uremagic.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:digitalmars-d puremagic.com">= digitalmars-d puremagic.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br> &gt;&gt;<br> &gt;&gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 On 19/05/14 15:37, Lionello Lunesu wrote:<br> &gt;&gt;<br> &gt;&gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Have inquired further how to recognize= the shuttles at SFO.<br> &gt;&gt;<br> &gt;&gt;<br> &gt;&gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 FYI: <a href=3D"http://www.flysfo.com/to-from/__ebs/= shared-ride-vans">http://www.flysfo.com/to-from/__ebs/shared-ride-vans</a><= br> &gt;&gt;<br> &gt;&gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &lt;<a href=3D"http://www.flysfo.com/to-from/ebs/sha= red-ride-vans">http://www.flysfo.com/to-from/ebs/shared-ride-vans</a>&gt;<b= r> &gt;&gt;<br> &gt;&gt;<br> &gt;&gt; Yeah, shuttles is how Manu got to Aloft last year. =C2=A0IIRC it&#= 39;s useful<br> &gt;&gt; only if you are shared with people going in the same direction.<br=

&gt;&gt; FYI: =C2=A0BART is $11, and taxi from Union -&gt; Aloft is $20.<br=

&gt;<br> &gt; Yeah, it&#39;s cheap if you are part of 1 &quot;party&quot;, then it&#= 39;s $10 for any additional person.<br> &gt;<br> &gt; I&#39;ll arrive at SFO on May 20, 6:24 PM. I can stick around SFO for = an hour or so if there&#39;s others in that time frame that want to share a= shuttle to Aloft. Email me lio lunesu, or wechat &#39;lionello&#39;.<br> &gt;<br> &gt; L.</p> <p dir=3D"ltr">FYI I was stuck at border control for 2 hours - incase anyon= e else is an alien.</p> --089e01681318eeec1f04f9d5aee3--
May 20 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent Robert BuRnEr Schadek via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
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what about tonight

On 05/19/2014 10:23 PM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 On 20 May 2014 06:21, Iain Buclaw <ibuclaw gdcproject.org
 <mailto:ibuclaw gdcproject.org>> wrote:


     On 19 May 2014 23:07, Lionello Lunesu via Digitalmars-d
     <digitalmars-d puremagic.com <mailto:digitalmars-d puremagic.com>>
     wrote:

         On 19/05/14 15:37, Lionello Lunesu wrote:

             Have inquired further how to recognize the shuttles at SFO.


         FYI: http://www.flysfo.com/to-from/ebs/shared-ride-vans


     Yeah, shuttles is how Manu got to Aloft last year.  IIRC it's
     useful only if you are shared with people going in the same direction.

     FYI:  BART is $11, and taxi from Union -> Aloft is $20.


 Speaking of which, I'm at Aloft now if there's anyone around for a
 drink or chat. :)

May 20 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent Robert BuRnEr Schadek via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
On 05/20/2014 11:00 AM, Ali Çehreli via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 On 05/20/2014 09:47 AM, Robert BuRnEr Schadek via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 what about tonight

I am 101% sure people will be at Aloft. I will be. :)

lobby/bar? Can you eat at Aloft, even if you're not staying there?
 Ali

May 20 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent Andrej Mitrovic via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
On 5/20/14, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> wrote:
 FYI I was stuck at border control for 2 hours - incase anyone else is an
 alien.

I knew you had to be from another planet!
May 20 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent Robert BuRnEr Schadek via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
On 05/20/2014 11:21 AM, Ali Çehreli via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 On 05/20/2014 11:17 AM, Robert BuRnEr Schadek via Digitalmars-d wrote:

 I am 101% sure people will be at Aloft. I will be. :)

lobby/bar?

7pm for me.
 Can you eat at Aloft, even if you're not staying there?

Yes. Ali

May 20 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent "Atila Neves" <atila.neves gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 20 May 2014 at 18:00:13 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:
 On 05/20/2014 09:47 AM, Robert BuRnEr Schadek via Digitalmars-d 
 wrote:
 what about tonight

I am 101% sure people will be at Aloft. I will be. :) Ali

I'll be there tonight as well.
May 20 2014
prev sibling parent "Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:
On Thu, 15 May 2014 09:06:04 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer  
<schveiguy yahoo.com> wrote:

 On Wed, 14 May 2014 17:35:04 -0400, Joshua Niehus <jm.niehus gmail.com>  
 wrote:

 On Wednesday, 14 May 2014 at 21:31:08 UTC, Jeremy Powers via  
 Digitalmars-d wrote:
 Excellent. I need a lift if possible? Of so please tell me when I  
 should
 be in the aloft lobby?

This seems to still be an open question - what time to gather?

I'll be there between 8am and 8:15am and will have 3 seats available (want to get there in time for breakfast)

Agreed. I also will have at least 3 seats.

Make that 6, my rental company unexpectedly upgraded us for free to a Mini-van, because I said I drive one at home. -Steve
May 21 2014