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digitalmars.D - NG technical issues: Is it just me?

reply "Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa)" <SeeWebsiteToContactMe semitwist.com> writes:
Using Thunderbird to access this NG, but as of about a couple months ago 
(IIRC), this problem started happening. Anybody else having this problem?:

When I try to select a new unread message to read, I've got roughly a 
10% or so chance that it'll fail with a "The connection was refused when 
attempting to contact news.digitalmars.com:119."

But here's the weird thing: Once that error DOES occur, then ALL further 
attempts to download/view a new post fail with the same error...until I 
hit "Get Messages" or switch to a different sub-forum and then back, 
which consistently fixes the issue (until it happens again a few 
messages later).

*Looks* like a server/network issue but behaves like a screwy local issue.
Apr 20
next sibling parent reply Timon Gehr <timon.gehr gmx.ch> writes:
On 20.04.2017 21:45, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
 Using Thunderbird to access this NG, but as of about a couple months ago
 (IIRC), this problem started happening. Anybody else having this problem?:

 When I try to select a new unread message to read, I've got roughly a
 10% or so chance that it'll fail with a "The connection was refused when
 attempting to contact news.digitalmars.com:119."

 But here's the weird thing: Once that error DOES occur, then ALL further
 attempts to download/view a new post fail with the same error...until I
 hit "Get Messages" or switch to a different sub-forum and then back,
 which consistently fixes the issue (until it happens again a few
 messages later).

 *Looks* like a server/network issue but behaves like a screwy local issue.
It's not just you. I have the same issues.
Apr 20
parent reply lawrence <lawrence.hemsley gmail.com> writes:
On 04/20/2017 02:09 PM, Timon Gehr wrote:
 On 20.04.2017 21:45, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
 Using Thunderbird to access this NG, but as of about a couple months ago
 (IIRC), this problem started happening. Anybody else having this
 problem?:

 When I try to select a new unread message to read, I've got roughly a
 10% or so chance that it'll fail with a "The connection was refused when
 attempting to contact news.digitalmars.com:119."

 But here's the weird thing: Once that error DOES occur, then ALL further
 attempts to download/view a new post fail with the same error...until I
 hit "Get Messages" or switch to a different sub-forum and then back,
 which consistently fixes the issue (until it happens again a few
 messages later).

 *Looks* like a server/network issue but behaves like a screwy local
 issue.
It's not just you. I have the same issues.
I used to have this same problem, until I sent the server settings to check for updates every 2 minutes.
Apr 20
parent reply David Gileadi <gileadisNOSPM gmail.com> writes:
On 4/20/17 2:05 PM, lawrence wrote:
 On 04/20/2017 02:09 PM, Timon Gehr wrote:
 On 20.04.2017 21:45, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
 [snip]
It's not just you. I have the same issues.
I used to have this same problem, until I sent the server settings to check for updates every 2 minutes.
I don't have this problem, but my server settings check every 2 minutes as well.
Apr 20
parent Nick B <nick.barbalich gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 20 April 2017 at 21:16:38 UTC, David Gileadi wrote:
 On 4/20/17 2:05 PM, lawrence wrote:
 On 04/20/2017 02:09 PM, Timon Gehr wrote:
 On 20.04.2017 21:45, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
 [snip]
It's not just you. I have the same issues.
I used to have this same problem, until I sent the server settings to check for updates every 2 minutes.
I don't have this problem, but my server settings check every 2 minutes as well.
the browser access is very fast as an alternative.
Apr 20
prev sibling next sibling parent drug <drug2004 bk.ru> writes:
20.04.2017 22:45, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) пишет:
 Using Thunderbird to access this NG, but as of about a couple months ago
 (IIRC), this problem started happening. Anybody else having this problem?:
Affirmative
Apr 20
prev sibling next sibling parent reply captaindet <2krnk gmx.net> writes:
 When I try to select a new unread message to read, I've got roughly a
 10% or so chance that it'll fail with a "The connection was refused when
 attempting to contact news.digitalmars.com:119."
same here, started several weeks ago, very annoying. i have used the same local config/settings for years w/o probs, also, have NOT upgraded thunderbird, so the issue must be on the server side. tried the 'check for new messages every 2 minutes' hotfix suggestion (was set to 10), but it does not help in my case. /det
Apr 20
parent captaindet <2krnk gmx.net> writes:
 tried the 'check for new messages every 2 minutes' hotfix suggestion
 (was set to 10), but it does not help in my case.
correction: this seems to help quite a bit, got only one connection refused since.
Apr 21
prev sibling parent reply =?UTF-8?Q?Ali_=c3=87ehreli?= <acehreli yahoo.com> writes:
On 04/20/2017 12:45 PM, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
 Using Thunderbird to access this NG, but as of about a couple months ago
 (IIRC), this problem started happening. Anybody else having this problem?:

 When I try to select a new unread message to read, I've got roughly a
 10% or so chance that it'll fail with a "The connection was refused when
 attempting to contact news.digitalmars.com:119."

 But here's the weird thing: Once that error DOES occur, then ALL further
 attempts to download/view a new post fail with the same error...until I
 hit "Get Messages" or switch to a different sub-forum and then back,
 which consistently fixes the issue (until it happens again a few
 messages later).

 *Looks* like a server/network issue but behaves like a screwy local issue.
Started happening more in recent weeks. I don't select automatic checking for messages. I just click on a newsgroup and it fails at differing rates. (Pretty good in the last couple of days.) When it fails, for me the cure is to click on another D newsgroup to make a successful connection and then come back to the failed one; then it always succeeds. Ali
Apr 20
parent reply Vladimir Panteleev <thecybershadow.lists gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 20 April 2017 at 23:37:25 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:
 *Looks* like a server/network issue but behaves like a screwy 
 local issue.
Started happening more in recent weeks. I don't select automatic checking for messages. I just click on a newsgroup and it fails at differing rates. (Pretty good in the last couple of days.) When it fails, for me the cure is to click on another D newsgroup to make a successful connection and then come back to the failed one; then it always succeeds.
It would be helpful if someone could record a packet capture log (e.g. with Wireshark) of the problem. The information therein could be the first step towards diagnosing the problem.
Apr 21
next sibling parent Mike Wey <mike-wey example.com> writes:
On 04/21/2017 10:27 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
 On Thursday, 20 April 2017 at 23:37:25 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:
 *Looks* like a server/network issue but behaves like a screwy local 
 issue.
Started happening more in recent weeks. I don't select automatic checking for messages. I just click on a newsgroup and it fails at differing rates. (Pretty good in the last couple of days.) When it fails, for me the cure is to click on another D newsgroup to make a successful connection and then come back to the failed one; then it always succeeds.
It would be helpful if someone could record a packet capture log (e.g. with Wireshark) of the problem. The information therein could be the first step towards diagnosing the problem.
Ok, here is an Wireshark export of the error and a few successful packets beforehand. Hopefully this gives some insight in whats going on. https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6DxRRR3v-n9QzhtZmNEbUQzWmM -- Mike Wey
Apr 21
prev sibling parent reply Mike Wey <mike-wey example.com> writes:
On 21-04-17 19:03, Mike Wey wrote:
 On 04/21/2017 10:27 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
 On Thursday, 20 April 2017 at 23:37:25 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:
 *Looks* like a server/network issue but behaves like a screwy local 
 issue.
Started happening more in recent weeks. I don't select automatic checking for messages. I just click on a newsgroup and it fails at differing rates. (Pretty good in the last couple of days.) When it fails, for me the cure is to click on another D newsgroup to make a successful connection and then come back to the failed one; then it always succeeds.
It would be helpful if someone could record a packet capture log (e.g. with Wireshark) of the problem. The information therein could be the first step towards diagnosing the problem.
Ok, here is an Wireshark export of the error and a few successful packets beforehand. Hopefully this gives some insight in whats going on. https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6DxRRR3v-n9QzhtZmNEbUQzWmM
The errors seem to be getting more frequent lately. But i nog also get these errors on the GtkD newsgroup (vibenews) so it might be a Thunderbird issue. Is anybody getting the errors with a different client? -- Mike Wey
Aug 01
parent reply =?UTF-8?Q?Ali_=c3=87ehreli?= <acehreli yahoo.com> writes:
On 08/01/2017 09:58 AM, Mike Wey wrote:

 The errors seem to be getting more frequent lately. But i nog also get
 these errors on the GtkD newsgroup (vibenews) so it might be a
 Thunderbird issue.

 Is anybody getting the errors with a different client?
Is there a better (lightweight, more stable, etc.) Thunderbird? A couple of weeks ago it could not open my Yahoo Inbox any more, so I had to add my account again. Perhaps I should get used to reading news and email with Emacs already. :/ Ali
Aug 01
next sibling parent "H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d" <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 03:50:02PM -0700, Ali ehreli via Digitalmars-d wrote:
[...]
 Perhaps I should get used to reading news and email with Emacs
 already. :/
[...] I've been using Mutt for years, and quite happy with it. There's a version/patch floating around somewhere that has built-in NNTP support, but IME it's a little klunky with high-traffic newsgroups. I just use the mailing list interface to the D forums, and things work perfectly. The best part of using Mutt is that it has full threading support, so if a particular topic doesn't interest you, you can delete the entire (sub)thread with a single keystroke. Indispensible for handling busy forums like this one. T -- Freedom of speech: the whole world has no right *not* to hear my spouting off!
Aug 01
prev sibling next sibling parent Kagamin <spam here.lot> writes:
Sylpheed?
Aug 02
prev sibling parent "Schrom, Brian T via Digitalmars-d" <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 04:58:43PM -0700, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 03:50:02PM -0700, Ali ehreli via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 [...]
 Perhaps I should get used to reading news and email with Emacs
 already. :/
[...] I've been using Mutt for years, and quite happy with it.
+1 for Mutt. davmail (for exchange)+offlineimap make for a terrific combination (though it takes a day to work through configuration and setup)
Aug 02