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digitalmars.D - NG technical issues: Is it just me?

reply "Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa)" <SeeWebsiteToContactMe semitwist.com> writes:
Using Thunderbird to access this NG, but as of about a couple months ago 
(IIRC), this problem started happening. Anybody else having this problem?:

When I try to select a new unread message to read, I've got roughly a 
10% or so chance that it'll fail with a "The connection was refused when 
attempting to contact news.digitalmars.com:119."

But here's the weird thing: Once that error DOES occur, then ALL further 
attempts to download/view a new post fail with the same error...until I 
hit "Get Messages" or switch to a different sub-forum and then back, 
which consistently fixes the issue (until it happens again a few 
messages later).

*Looks* like a server/network issue but behaves like a screwy local issue.
Apr 20
next sibling parent reply Timon Gehr <timon.gehr gmx.ch> writes:
On 20.04.2017 21:45, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
 Using Thunderbird to access this NG, but as of about a couple months ago
 (IIRC), this problem started happening. Anybody else having this problem?:

 When I try to select a new unread message to read, I've got roughly a
 10% or so chance that it'll fail with a "The connection was refused when
 attempting to contact news.digitalmars.com:119."

 But here's the weird thing: Once that error DOES occur, then ALL further
 attempts to download/view a new post fail with the same error...until I
 hit "Get Messages" or switch to a different sub-forum and then back,
 which consistently fixes the issue (until it happens again a few
 messages later).

 *Looks* like a server/network issue but behaves like a screwy local issue.
It's not just you. I have the same issues.
Apr 20
parent reply lawrence <lawrence.hemsley gmail.com> writes:
On 04/20/2017 02:09 PM, Timon Gehr wrote:
 On 20.04.2017 21:45, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
 Using Thunderbird to access this NG, but as of about a couple months ago
 (IIRC), this problem started happening. Anybody else having this
 problem?:

 When I try to select a new unread message to read, I've got roughly a
 10% or so chance that it'll fail with a "The connection was refused when
 attempting to contact news.digitalmars.com:119."

 But here's the weird thing: Once that error DOES occur, then ALL further
 attempts to download/view a new post fail with the same error...until I
 hit "Get Messages" or switch to a different sub-forum and then back,
 which consistently fixes the issue (until it happens again a few
 messages later).

 *Looks* like a server/network issue but behaves like a screwy local
 issue.
It's not just you. I have the same issues.
I used to have this same problem, until I sent the server settings to check for updates every 2 minutes.
Apr 20
parent reply David Gileadi <gileadisNOSPM gmail.com> writes:
On 4/20/17 2:05 PM, lawrence wrote:
 On 04/20/2017 02:09 PM, Timon Gehr wrote:
 On 20.04.2017 21:45, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
 [snip]
It's not just you. I have the same issues.
I used to have this same problem, until I sent the server settings to check for updates every 2 minutes.
I don't have this problem, but my server settings check every 2 minutes as well.
Apr 20
parent Nick B <nick.barbalich gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 20 April 2017 at 21:16:38 UTC, David Gileadi wrote:
 On 4/20/17 2:05 PM, lawrence wrote:
 On 04/20/2017 02:09 PM, Timon Gehr wrote:
 On 20.04.2017 21:45, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
 [snip]
It's not just you. I have the same issues.
I used to have this same problem, until I sent the server settings to check for updates every 2 minutes.
I don't have this problem, but my server settings check every 2 minutes as well.
the browser access is very fast as an alternative.
Apr 20
prev sibling next sibling parent drug <drug2004 bk.ru> writes:
20.04.2017 22:45, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) пишет:
 Using Thunderbird to access this NG, but as of about a couple months ago
 (IIRC), this problem started happening. Anybody else having this problem?:
Affirmative
Apr 20
prev sibling next sibling parent reply captaindet <2krnk gmx.net> writes:
 When I try to select a new unread message to read, I've got roughly a
 10% or so chance that it'll fail with a "The connection was refused when
 attempting to contact news.digitalmars.com:119."
same here, started several weeks ago, very annoying. i have used the same local config/settings for years w/o probs, also, have NOT upgraded thunderbird, so the issue must be on the server side. tried the 'check for new messages every 2 minutes' hotfix suggestion (was set to 10), but it does not help in my case. /det
Apr 20
parent captaindet <2krnk gmx.net> writes:
 tried the 'check for new messages every 2 minutes' hotfix suggestion
 (was set to 10), but it does not help in my case.
correction: this seems to help quite a bit, got only one connection refused since.
Apr 21
prev sibling parent reply =?UTF-8?Q?Ali_=c3=87ehreli?= <acehreli yahoo.com> writes:
On 04/20/2017 12:45 PM, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
 Using Thunderbird to access this NG, but as of about a couple months ago
 (IIRC), this problem started happening. Anybody else having this problem?:

 When I try to select a new unread message to read, I've got roughly a
 10% or so chance that it'll fail with a "The connection was refused when
 attempting to contact news.digitalmars.com:119."

 But here's the weird thing: Once that error DOES occur, then ALL further
 attempts to download/view a new post fail with the same error...until I
 hit "Get Messages" or switch to a different sub-forum and then back,
 which consistently fixes the issue (until it happens again a few
 messages later).

 *Looks* like a server/network issue but behaves like a screwy local issue.
Started happening more in recent weeks. I don't select automatic checking for messages. I just click on a newsgroup and it fails at differing rates. (Pretty good in the last couple of days.) When it fails, for me the cure is to click on another D newsgroup to make a successful connection and then come back to the failed one; then it always succeeds. Ali
Apr 20
parent reply Vladimir Panteleev <thecybershadow.lists gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 20 April 2017 at 23:37:25 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:
 *Looks* like a server/network issue but behaves like a screwy 
 local issue.
Started happening more in recent weeks. I don't select automatic checking for messages. I just click on a newsgroup and it fails at differing rates. (Pretty good in the last couple of days.) When it fails, for me the cure is to click on another D newsgroup to make a successful connection and then come back to the failed one; then it always succeeds.
It would be helpful if someone could record a packet capture log (e.g. with Wireshark) of the problem. The information therein could be the first step towards diagnosing the problem.
Apr 21
parent Mike Wey <mike-wey example.com> writes:
On 04/21/2017 10:27 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
 On Thursday, 20 April 2017 at 23:37:25 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:
 *Looks* like a server/network issue but behaves like a screwy local 
 issue.
Started happening more in recent weeks. I don't select automatic checking for messages. I just click on a newsgroup and it fails at differing rates. (Pretty good in the last couple of days.) When it fails, for me the cure is to click on another D newsgroup to make a successful connection and then come back to the failed one; then it always succeeds.
It would be helpful if someone could record a packet capture log (e.g. with Wireshark) of the problem. The information therein could be the first step towards diagnosing the problem.
Ok, here is an Wireshark export of the error and a few successful packets beforehand. Hopefully this gives some insight in whats going on. https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6DxRRR3v-n9QzhtZmNEbUQzWmM -- Mike Wey
Apr 21