digitalmars.D - It's awfully quiet
- Paul D. Anderson <paul.d.removethis.anderson comcast.andthis.net> Aug 17 2009
- Ary Borenszweig <ary esperanto.org.ar> Aug 17 2009
- Jarrett Billingsley <jarrett.billingsley gmail.com> Aug 17 2009
- BCS <ao pathlink.com> Aug 17 2009
- downs <default_357-line yahoo.de> Aug 18 2009
- Daniel Keep <daniel.keep.lists gmail.com> Aug 19 2009
- Chad J <chadjoan __spam.is.bad__gmail.com> Aug 19 2009
- Paul D. Anderson <paul.d.removethis.anderson comcast.andthis.net> Aug 20 2009
- BCS <ao pathlink.com> Aug 20 2009
- Daniel Keep <daniel.keep.lists gmail.com> Aug 21 2009
- Tim Matthews <tim.matthews7 gmail.com> Aug 18 2009
- "Lars T. Kyllingstad" <public kyllingen.NOSPAMnet> Aug 19 2009
- downs <default_357-line yahoo.de> Aug 19 2009
- "Simen Kjaeraas" <simen.kjaras gmail.com> Aug 19 2009
- Robert Clipsham <robert octarineparrot.com> Aug 17 2009
- Zhenyu Zhou <rinick gmail.com> Aug 17 2009
- Bill Baxter <wbaxter gmail.com> Aug 17 2009
- Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> Aug 17 2009
- "Lars T. Kyllingstad" <public kyllingen.NOSPAMnet> Aug 18 2009
- Ary Borenszweig <ary esperanto.org.ar> Aug 18 2009
- Piotrek <starpit tlen.pl> Aug 18 2009
- Bill Baxter <wbaxter gmail.com> Aug 17 2009
- Daniel de Kok <me danieldk.org> Aug 18 2009
- Jeremie Pelletier <jeremiep gmail.com> Aug 17 2009
- Jason House <jason.james.house gmail.com> Aug 17 2009
- MIURA Masahiro <echochamber gmail.com> Aug 17 2009
- Jeremie Pelletier <jeremiep gmail.com> Aug 17 2009
- Jason House <jason.james.house gmail.com> Aug 17 2009
- Don <nospam nospam.com> Aug 18 2009
- Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> Aug 18 2009
- Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> Aug 18 2009
It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy getting the new release ready? Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( Suspiciously, Paul
Aug 17 2009
Ary Borenszweig <ary esperanto.org.ar> Paul D. Anderson escribió:It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy getting the new release ready?
What? D isn't developed anymore. That's why there are no new posts...
Aug 17 2009
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Paul D. Anderson<paul.d.removethis.anderson comcast.andthis.net> wrote:It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy getting the new release ready? Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( Suspiciously, Paul
Nah, it just means that - for the first time in what seems like weeks - no one is bikeshedding. ;)
Aug 17 2009
Reply to Jarrett,On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Paul D. Anderson<paul.d.removethis.anderson comcast.andthis.net> wrote:It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy getting the new release ready? Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( Suspiciously, Paul
- no one is bikeshedding. ;)
Green! Green I tell you! Green!
Aug 17 2009
BCS wrote:Reply to Jarrett,On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Paul D. Anderson<paul.d.removethis.anderson comcast.andthis.net> wrote:It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy getting the new release ready? Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( Suspiciously, Paul
- no one is bikeshedding. ;)
Green! Green I tell you! Green!
I just want to note again that Yellow has several highly desirable properties, among them yellowness and resistence against Green Lanterns. Not that anybody cares ..
Aug 18 2009
Simen Kjaeraas wrote:On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:53:55 +0200, BCS <ao pathlink.com> wrote:Reply to Jarrett,On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Paul D. Anderson<paul.d.removethis.anderson comcast.andthis.net> wrote:It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy getting the new release ready? Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( Suspiciously, Paul
- no one is bikeshedding. ;)
Green! Green I tell you! Green!
Octarine is the only worthy color for a bikeshed, and you should all know that by now.
The only problem then is that the building has to have six walls (plus the roof and floor) which makes it horribly inconvenient to carpet.
Aug 19 2009
Nick Sabalausky wrote:Which, of course, begs the question: What color should the bikeshed's carpet be? And what kind? Shag? Burbur (sp?)? With/without scotch-guarding?
No carpet. Hard flooring all the way. I'm going to go with wood flooring. No sense doing it unless you're going to do it right.
Aug 19 2009
Chad J Wrote:Nick Sabalausky wrote:Which, of course, begs the question: What color should the bikeshed's carpet be? And what kind? Shag? Burbur (sp?)? With/without scotch-guarding?
No carpet. Hard flooring all the way. I'm going to go with wood flooring. No sense doing it unless you're going to do it right.
Mmmm....that wouldl be "berber". This is a shed, people! If there's a floor at all it's just plywood! CDX at best. But there's no point to this. Betelgeuse is going to go supernova any day now anyway: (http://blogs.discovery.com/space_disco/2009/06/warning-betelgeuse-is-shrinking-supernova-or-supernothing.html) Or, more correctly, Betelgeuse has already gone supernova and the fiery waves of destruction will arrive any day now!! I say we paint the shed asbestos-colored. Paul
Aug 20 2009
Reply to Chad,Nick Sabalausky wrote:Which, of course, begs the question: What color should the bikeshed's carpet be? And what kind? Shag? Burbur (sp?)? With/without scotch-guarding?
flooring. No sense doing it unless you're going to do it right.
It's a bike shed for crying out loud! Concrete slab is the only way to go.
Aug 20 2009
BCS wrote:Reply to Chad,Nick Sabalausky wrote:Which, of course, begs the question: What color should the bikeshed's carpet be? And what kind? Shag? Burbur (sp?)? With/without scotch-guarding?
flooring. No sense doing it unless you're going to do it right.
It's a bike shed for crying out loud! Concrete slab is the only way to go.
No; clearly the flooring should be made out of the same stuff they use to make those super-bouncy balls.
Aug 21 2009
Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Paul D. Anderson<paul.d.removethis.anderson comcast.andthis.net> wrote:It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy getting the new release ready? Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( Suspiciously, Paul
Nah, it just means that - for the first time in what seems like weeks - no one is bikeshedding. ;)
I hate that word. When ever anyone says any form of "bikeshed", Drink!
Aug 18 2009
Tim Matthews wrote:Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Paul D. Anderson<paul.d.removethis.anderson comcast.andthis.net> wrote:It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy getting the new release ready? Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( Suspiciously, Paul
- no one is bikeshedding. ;)
I hate that word. When ever anyone says any form of "bikeshed", Drink!
Why? "Bikeshedding" is a perfectly fine word that means "dropping one's bike". -Lars
Aug 19 2009
Lars T. Kyllingstad wrote:Tim Matthews wrote:Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Paul D. Anderson<paul.d.removethis.anderson comcast.andthis.net> wrote:It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy getting the new release ready? Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( Suspiciously, Paul
- no one is bikeshedding. ;)
I hate that word. When ever anyone says any form of "bikeshed", Drink!
Why? "Bikeshedding" is a perfectly fine word that means "dropping one's bike". -Lars
Is it that time of autumn again, when programmers shed their bikes? (Most people agree that the spectacle would be much more visually impressive if they could just agree on a bike color before winter covers it all)
Aug 19 2009
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:53:55 +0200, BCS <ao pathlink.com> wrote:Reply to Jarrett,On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Paul D. Anderson<paul.d.removethis.anderson comcast.andthis.net> wrote:It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy getting the new release ready? Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( Suspiciously, Paul
- no one is bikeshedding. ;)
Green! Green I tell you! Green!
Octarine is the only worthy color for a bikeshed, and you should all know that by now. -- Simen
Aug 19 2009
Paul D. Anderson wrote:It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy getting the new release ready? Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( Suspiciously, Paul
I noticed that too! It's been quiet for the past week or so... having to find other things to do with my time :o
Aug 17 2009
Paul D. Anderson Wrote:It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy getting the new release ready? Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( Suspiciously, Paul
http://erdani.org/ Andrei sustains his dissertation defense today. Maybe Walter is also there.
Aug 17 2009
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Zhenyu Zhou<rinick gmail.com> wrote:Paul D. Anderson Wrote:It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy getting the new release ready? Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( Suspiciously, Paul
http://erdani.org/ Andrei sustains his dissertation defense today. Maybe Walter is also there.
Bummer I wish I woulda known. I might have gone to check it out. I hope you rocked, Andrei. Not sure how you managed it given the number of posts here + new daddy status + writing TDPL status, but doesn't seem like you were too worried. --bb
Aug 17 2009
Bill Baxter wrote:On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Zhenyu Zhou<rinick gmail.com> wrote:Paul D. Anderson Wrote:It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy getting the new release ready? Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( Suspiciously, Paul
Andrei sustains his dissertation defense today. Maybe Walter is also there.
Bummer I wish I woulda known. I might have gone to check it out. I hope you rocked, Andrei. Not sure how you managed it given the number of posts here + new daddy status + writing TDPL status, but doesn't seem like you were too worried.
I'm done! www.erdani.org Andrei
Aug 17 2009
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:Bill Baxter wrote:On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Zhenyu Zhou<rinick gmail.com> wrote:Paul D. Anderson Wrote:It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy getting the new release ready? Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( Suspiciously, Paul
Andrei sustains his dissertation defense today. Maybe Walter is also there.
Bummer I wish I woulda known. I might have gone to check it out. I hope you rocked, Andrei. Not sure how you managed it given the number of posts here + new daddy status + writing TDPL status, but doesn't seem like you were too worried.
I'm done! www.erdani.org Andrei
Congrats! Did your opponents give you a hard time? Still two years to go, here. :) -Lars
Aug 18 2009
Lars T. Kyllingstad wrote:I'm done!
Congrats! Did your opponents give you a hard time?
Congrats Andrei!Still two years to go, here. :)
Four here. I'm starting September 1 this year. -- Michiel Helvensteijn
Aug 18 2009
Andrei Alexandrescu escribió:Bill Baxter wrote:On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Zhenyu Zhou<rinick gmail.com> wrote:Paul D. Anderson Wrote:It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy getting the new release ready? Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( Suspiciously, Paul
Andrei sustains his dissertation defense today. Maybe Walter is also there.
Bummer I wish I woulda known. I might have gone to check it out. I hope you rocked, Andrei. Not sure how you managed it given the number of posts here + new daddy status + writing TDPL status, but doesn't seem like you were too worried.
I'm done! www.erdani.org Andrei
Congratulations! Just don't enter the "now what?" panic state. :)
Aug 18 2009
Andrei Alexandrescu pisze:I'm done! www.erdani.org Andrei
Congratulations! Big beer for you! Cheers Piotrek
Aug 18 2009
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu<SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote:Bill Baxter wrote:On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Zhenyu Zhou<rinick gmail.com> wrote:Paul D. Anderson Wrote:It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is bu=
getting the new release ready? Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( Suspiciously, Paul
http://erdani.org/ Andrei sustains his dissertation defense today. Maybe Walter is also there.
Bummer I wish I woulda known. =A0I might have gone to check it out. I hope you rocked, Andrei. =A0Not sure how you managed it given the number of posts here + new daddy status + writing TDPL status, but doesn't seem like you were too worried.
I'm done! www.erdani.org Andrei
A hearty congrats to you! And welcome to the club. ;-) Have they taught you the handshake yet? --bb, Ph.D. :-P
Aug 17 2009
On Aug 18, 2009, at 2:51 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:I'm done!
Congratulations! I hope you enjoy the relief ;). Still three years to go here (also in NLP, some machine learning). -- Daniel
Aug 18 2009
Paul D. Anderson Wrote:It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy getting the new release ready? Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( Suspiciously, Paul
It IS awfully quiet this week. I hope a new release is soon, I can't wait for the shared qualifier to be working properly on classes and structs. The new T[new] arrays are sexy too!
Aug 17 2009
Jeremie Pelletier Wrote:Paul D. Anderson Wrote:It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy getting the new release ready? Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( Suspiciously, Paul
It IS awfully quiet this week. I hope a new release is soon, I can't wait for the shared qualifier to be working properly on classes and structs. The new T[new] arrays are sexy too!
I hope I'm not spoiling anything, but here are other things I know is going on: 1. An updated gdb patch was submitted. It was tested against the upcoming 2.032 release (and maybe the D1 equivalent?). Walter has made some tweaks to how debug info is written. 2. Bartosz is rewriting thread related stuff. He has an upcoming blog on reference counting which is part of his implementation. As part of this, I know Bartosz got a few shared related bugs fixed. I'm unsure if they're in bugzilla or not...
Aug 17 2009
Jason House wrote:I hope I'm not spoiling anything, but here are other things I know is going on: 1. An updated gdb patch was submitted. It was tested against the upcoming 2.032 release (and maybe the D1 equivalent?). Walter has made some tweaks to how debug info is written. 2. Bartosz is rewriting thread related stuff. He has an upcoming blog on reference counting which is part of his implementation. As part of this, I know Bartosz got a few shared related bugs fixed. I'm unsure if they're in bugzilla or not...
Also "The real properties are coming soon", according to Walter. http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/99aea/reddit_what_programming_language_do_you/c0bwdq1
Aug 17 2009
Jason House Wrote:Jeremie Pelletier Wrote:Paul D. Anderson Wrote:It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy getting the new release ready? Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( Suspiciously, Paul
It IS awfully quiet this week. I hope a new release is soon, I can't wait for the shared qualifier to be working properly on classes and structs. The new T[new] arrays are sexy too!
I hope I'm not spoiling anything, but here are other things I know is going on: 1. An updated gdb patch was submitted. It was tested against the upcoming 2.032 release (and maybe the D1 equivalent?). Walter has made some tweaks to how debug info is written. 2. Bartosz is rewriting thread related stuff. He has an upcoming blog on reference counting which is part of his implementation. As part of this, I know Bartosz got a few shared related bugs fixed. I'm unsure if they're in bugzilla or not...
Yeah I have been reading Bartosz's blog a lot lately, I especially liked his entries on thin-locks and the use of shared qualifiers, which is why I can't wait to toy with his concepts once D fully supports the primitives to implement them. The recent thread about CPUs/GPUs also is of big interest, I really like Sweeney's concept of having four different processing models to form an all-around framework. I will definitely be working on an implementation soon.
Aug 17 2009
Jeremie Pelletier Wrote:Paul D. Anderson Wrote:It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy getting the new release ready? Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( Suspiciously, Paul
It IS awfully quiet this week. I hope a new release is soon, I can't wait for the shared qualifier to be working properly on classes and structs. The new T[new] arrays are sexy too!
I hope I'm not spoiling anything, but here are other things I know is going on: 1. An updated gdb patch was submitted. It was tested against the upcoming 2.032 release (and maybe the D1 equivalent?). Walter has made some tweaks to how debug info is written. 2. Bartosz is rewriting thread related stuff. He has an upcoming blog on reference counting which is part of his implementation. As part of this, I know Bartosz got a few shared related bugs fixed. I'm unsure if they're in bugzilla or not... (sorry in advance if my post appears multiple times, I'm having spotty service with my cell phone)
Aug 17 2009
Jeremie Pelletier wrote:Paul D. Anderson Wrote:It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy getting the new release ready? Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( Suspiciously, Paul
It IS awfully quiet this week. I hope a new release is soon, I can't wait for the shared qualifier to be working properly on classes and structs. The new T[new] arrays are sexy too!
I'm pretty sure that T[new] arrays won't be in the next release. Or if they are, the release will be delayed for an long time still. I have a couple of nice patches in the next release, so I'm hoping it won't be too far off. But I suspect it might be. Walter also has his Compiler Construction Seminar coming up. I don't know if that is occupying much of his time. I hope he's had a holiday, too.
Aug 18 2009
Don wrote:I'm pretty sure that T[new] arrays won't be in the next release. Or if they are, the release will be delayed for an long time still. I have a couple of nice patches in the next release, so I'm hoping it won't be too far off. But I suspect it might be.
The next update will be largely another boatload of bug fixes. Not T[new].Walter also has his Compiler Construction Seminar coming up. I don't know if that is occupying much of his time. I hope he's had a holiday, too.
I'm about 5/8 done preparing for it. There's still a lot of work.
Aug 18 2009
Nick Sabalausky wrote:I don't suppose you or anyone else knows if the #2567 (Option To Not Treat Warnings As Errors) patch has made it in (or ever will for that matter). That's one thing I've been really anxious to hear something about, even if it's just "not likely to ever happen", so I know whether or not to plan a more permanent workaround than my current "manually patch and recompile every release".
Adding a new switch means it'll have to be there for a long time (messing with peoples' makefiles is a bad thing). I'd like to avoid having a large number of compiler switches, and so would like more experience that such a switch is a compelling improvement.
Aug 18 2009