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reply Jerry Quinn <jlquinn optonline.net> writes:
Hi folks,

This seemed like the right place to toss this out...

What do folks think of adding a google +1 button to d-programming-language.org?
 I just created a google+ account and discovered it.

Jerry
Jul 13 2011
next sibling parent reply "Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> writes:
"Jerry Quinn" <jlquinn optonline.net> wrote in message 
news:ivlpao$1td9$1 digitalmars.com...
 Hi folks,

 This seemed like the right place to toss this out...

 What do folks think of adding a google +1 button to 
 d-programming-language.org?  I just created a google+ account and 
 discovered it.

I strongly believe that Dig/Twitface/etc buttons DO NOT belong on misc pages across the web. If someone wants to go "marking" (or whatever the term is) different sites or pages with those services, then that belongs in something that's orthogonal to the pages themselves, such as a browser feature or plugin. The current trend of embedding it in each page on the web just drags us all back to the dark ages when every application came with it's own set of drivers or {insert your own example of absurd non-orthogonality}. It makes absolutely no sense. Plus, I don't want to see us jump on the bandwagon of being yet another uppity trend-whorish site trying to cram those moronic "services" down everyone's throats. *Cough* Umm, eerrmm...I mean..."I'm not sure if it's really something we should do." ;) ------------------------------- Not sent from an iPhone.
Jul 13 2011
parent reply Daniel Gibson <metalcaedes gmail.com> writes:
Am 14.07.2011 06:56, schrieb Nick Sabalausky:
 "Jerry Quinn"<jlquinn optonline.net>  wrote in message
 news:ivlpao$1td9$1 digitalmars.com...
 Hi folks,

 This seemed like the right place to toss this out...

 What do folks think of adding a google +1 button to
 d-programming-language.org?  I just created a google+ account and
 discovered it.

I strongly believe that Dig/Twitface/etc buttons DO NOT belong on misc pages across the web. If someone wants to go "marking" (or whatever the term is) different sites or pages with those services, then that belongs in something that's orthogonal to the pages themselves, such as a browser feature or plugin. The current trend of embedding it in each page on the web just drags us all back to the dark ages when every application came with it's own set of drivers or {insert your own example of absurd non-orthogonality}. It makes absolutely no sense.

Also, like Facebooks like buttons, it helps Google (or Facebook) to track your browsing behavior (even if you're not using their services).
Jul 22 2011
parent reply "Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> writes:
"Daniel Gibson" <metalcaedes gmail.com> wrote in message 
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 Am 14.07.2011 06:56, schrieb Nick Sabalausky:
 "Jerry Quinn"<jlquinn optonline.net>  wrote in message
 news:ivlpao$1td9$1 digitalmars.com...
 Hi folks,

 This seemed like the right place to toss this out...

 What do folks think of adding a google +1 button to
 d-programming-language.org?  I just created a google+ account and
 discovered it.

I strongly believe that Dig/Twitface/etc buttons DO NOT belong on misc pages across the web. If someone wants to go "marking" (or whatever the term is) different sites or pages with those services, then that belongs in something that's orthogonal to the pages themselves, such as a browser feature or plugin. The current trend of embedding it in each page on the web just drags us all back to the dark ages when every application came with it's own set of drivers or {insert your own example of absurd non-orthogonality}. It makes absolutely no sense.

Also, like Facebooks like buttons, it helps Google (or Facebook) to track your browsing behavior (even if you're not using their services).

Yet another reason to keep JS turned off ;)
Jul 24 2011
next sibling parent David Nadlinger <see klickverbot.at> writes:
On 7/25/11 7:03 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
 "Daniel Gibson"<metalcaedes gmail.com>  wrote in message
 Also, like Facebooks like buttons, it helps Google (or Facebook) to track
 your browsing behavior (even if you're not using their services).

Yet another reason to keep JS turned off ;)

The privacy issue is not related to JS at all – turning it off just because Google/Facebook/… use it to implement their »website plugin« seems like a strange way of handling the situation to me… ;) David
Jul 25 2011
prev sibling parent Daniel Gibson <metalcaedes gmail.com> writes:
Am 25.07.2011 07:03, schrieb Nick Sabalausky:
 "Daniel Gibson"<metalcaedes gmail.com>  wrote in message
 news:j0co24$1cl7$1 digitalmars.com...
 Am 14.07.2011 06:56, schrieb Nick Sabalausky:
 "Jerry Quinn"<jlquinn optonline.net>   wrote in message
 news:ivlpao$1td9$1 digitalmars.com...
 Hi folks,

 This seemed like the right place to toss this out...

 What do folks think of adding a google +1 button to
 d-programming-language.org?  I just created a google+ account and
 discovered it.

I strongly believe that Dig/Twitface/etc buttons DO NOT belong on misc pages across the web. If someone wants to go "marking" (or whatever the term is) different sites or pages with those services, then that belongs in something that's orthogonal to the pages themselves, such as a browser feature or plugin. The current trend of embedding it in each page on the web just drags us all back to the dark ages when every application came with it's own set of drivers or {insert your own example of absurd non-orthogonality}. It makes absolutely no sense.

Also, like Facebooks like buttons, it helps Google (or Facebook) to track your browsing behavior (even if you're not using their services).

Yet another reason to keep JS turned off ;)

I don't think that will help. I think these Buttons are integrated with iframes like this (example from spiegel.de: <iframe src="http://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?locale=de_DE&href=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiegel.de%2Fspam%2F0%2C1518%2C776477%2C00.html&;layout=standard&amp;show_faces=false&amp;width=480&amp;action=recommend&amp;font=verdanad&amp;&amp;colorscheme= ight&amp;height=22" [etc] ></iframe> So they get your IP (from the request to their server) and the page you look at (as part of the requested facebook page from the iframe). Probably cookies are used as well, but I don't know. Cheers, - Daniel
Jul 25 2011
prev sibling parent "Simen Kjaeraas" <simen.kjaras gmail.com> writes:
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 05:55:04 +0200, Jerry Quinn <jlquinn optonline.net>  
wrote:

 Hi folks,

 This seemed like the right place to toss this out...

 What do folks think of adding a google +1 button to  
 d-programming-language.org?  I just created a google+ account and  
 discovered it.

Gawds, I bloody hate those things. If I never saw one again, it would be too darn soon. So... No? -- Simen
Jul 14 2011