• Luis (7/7) Dec 01 2015 Being DUB very important for D language... why there isn't an
• Vladimir Panteleev (5/7) Dec 01 2015 Because a Dub forum already exists:
• Chris (7/14) Dec 01 2015 Thanks for mentioning this. I've often thought that DUB should
• Luis (2/18) Dec 01 2015 Yeah. I asked some DUB question a week ago.
• Steven Schveighoffer (11/17) Dec 01 2015 I would discourage adding any more groups. I don't really get the point
• Brad Anderson (5/9) Dec 01 2015 +1
• Luis (4/13) Dec 02 2015 Renaming DWT to GUIs, would be less "compartmentalized", not ? I
• Chris (9/33) Dec 02 2015 While I agree in general, the problem is that DUB has a dedicated
• Steven Schveighoffer (4/34) Dec 03 2015 I see no problem with asking dub questions (or DWT or GDC or LDC
• Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQ=?= (10/13) Dec 03 2015 I think it's more that having a dedicated forum lowers the
• Chris (3/16) Dec 03 2015 I agree. +1
• Steven Schveighoffer (9/19) Dec 03 2015 Anyone looking for a previously asked question is going to have to use a...
• Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQ=?= (5/7) Dec 03 2015 I didn't think of it as "official" until the recent debate. YMMV.
• Bubbasaur (5/12) Dec 03 2015 I'm against adding more groups, but in case of DUB I think it

Luis <luis.panadero gmail.com> writes:

Being DUB very important for D language... why there isn't an 
entry for DUB on ecosystem ?

Also, looks that DWT isn't very active. Not should be a "GUI" 
entry to talk about GtkD, TkD and other GUI toolkits, instead 
focusing on one that looks that no body uses ?

PD: I don't know the true state of DWT, but GtkD and TkD simply 
just works.

Vladimir Panteleev <thecybershadow.lists gmail.com> writes:

On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 10:31:55 UTC, Luis wrote:
 Being DUB very important for D language... why there isn't an 
 entry for DUB on ecosystem ?

Because a Dub forum already exists:

http://forum.rejectedsoftware.com/groups/rejectedsoftware.dub/

Granted, since both forum sites speak the same protocol (NNTP), 
we have an opportunity to bridge them.

Chris <wendlec tcd.ie> writes:

On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 10:31:55 UTC, Luis wrote:
 Being DUB very important for D language... why there isn't an 
 entry for DUB on ecosystem ?

 Also, looks that DWT isn't very active. Not should be a "GUI" 
 entry to talk about GtkD, TkD and other GUI toolkits, instead 
 focusing on one that looks that no body uses ?

 PD: I don't know the true state of DWT, but GtkD and TkD simply 
 just works.

Thanks for mentioning this. I've often thought that DUB should 
have its own forum header here. Usually, people post "[DUB] 
Question" on D.learn. I think DUB should definitely be discussed 
here as a D citizen in its own right, also to avoid 
misunderstandings between the D leadership and DUB developers 
henceforth.

Luis <luis.panadero gmail.com> writes:

On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 11:00:54 UTC, Chris wrote:
 On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 10:31:55 UTC, Luis wrote:
 Being DUB very important for D language... why there isn't an 
 entry for DUB on ecosystem ?

 Also, looks that DWT isn't very active. Not should be a "GUI" 
 entry to talk about GtkD, TkD and other GUI toolkits, instead 
 focusing on one that looks that no body uses ?

 PD: I don't know the true state of DWT, but GtkD and TkD 
 simply just works.

 Thanks for mentioning this. I've often thought that DUB should 
 have its own forum header here. Usually, people post "[DUB] 
 Question" on D.learn. I think DUB should definitely be 
 discussed here as a D citizen in its own right, also to avoid 
 misunderstandings between the D leadership and DUB developers 
 henceforth.

Yeah. I asked some DUB question a week ago.

Steven Schveighoffer <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:

On 12/1/15 5:31 AM, Luis wrote:
 Being DUB very important for D language... why there isn't an entry for
 DUB on ecosystem ?

 Also, looks that DWT isn't very active. Not should be a "GUI" entry to
 talk about GtkD, TkD and other GUI toolkits, instead focusing on one
 that looks that no body uses ?

 PD: I don't know the true state of DWT, but GtkD and TkD simply just works.

I would discourage adding any more groups. I don't really get the point 
of having so many groups, if you have a question, use the main group or 
the learn group. That is where all of us are paying attention.

I (and I presume many other D veterans) wouldn't see any discussions on 
other groups. The fact that other groups have little discussion is 
likely evidence that having other groups isn't helping questioners reach 
answers.

I frequently go to a site with many categories for groups, and don't 
know where to post my question. I hate that.

-Steve

Brad Anderson <eco gnuk.net> writes:

On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 14:45:04 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer 
wrote:
 I would discourage adding any more groups. I don't really get 
 the point of having so many groups, if you have a question, use 
 the main group or the learn group. That is where all of us are 
 paying attention.

+1

People are too quick to try to compartmentalize everything. It 
should only be done when the volume becomes a problem.

Luis <luis.panadero gmail.com> writes:

On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 17:18:26 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote:
 On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 14:45:04 UTC, Steven 
 Schveighoffer wrote:
 I would discourage adding any more groups. I don't really get 
 the point of having so many groups, if you have a question, 
 use the main group or the learn group. That is where all of us 
 are paying attention.

 +1

 People are too quick to try to compartmentalize everything. It 
 should only be done when the volume becomes a problem.

Renaming DWT to GUIs, would be less "compartmentalized", not ? I 
think that have more sense, as looks that every body is using 
GtkD, TkD or dlangui

Chris <wendlec tcd.ie> writes:

On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 14:45:04 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer 
wrote:
 On 12/1/15 5:31 AM, Luis wrote:
 Being DUB very important for D language... why there isn't an 
 entry for
 DUB on ecosystem ?

 Also, looks that DWT isn't very active. Not should be a "GUI" 
 entry to
 talk about GtkD, TkD and other GUI toolkits, instead focusing 
 on one
 that looks that no body uses ?

 PD: I don't know the true state of DWT, but GtkD and TkD 
 simply just works.

 I would discourage adding any more groups. I don't really get 
 the point of having so many groups, if you have a question, use 
 the main group or the learn group. That is where all of us are 
 paying attention.

 I (and I presume many other D veterans) wouldn't see any 
 discussions on other groups. The fact that other groups have 
 little discussion is likely evidence that having other groups 
 isn't helping questioners reach answers.

 I frequently go to a site with many categories for groups, and 
 don't know where to post my question. I hate that.

 -Steve

While I agree in general, the problem is that DUB has a dedicated 
forum "far away" from this forum. Sometimes, when people have a 
question, they don't know where to post it. Here or on the 
dedicated D forum run by Sönke. Now that DUB has become part of 
"official D", wouldn't it make sense to tie it in a bit better? 
Also, DUB questions are more frequent than GDC or LDC questions 
(not to mention DWT).

Steven Schveighoffer <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:

On 12/2/15 5:03 AM, Chris wrote:
 On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 14:45:04 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
 On 12/1/15 5:31 AM, Luis wrote:
 Being DUB very important for D language... why there isn't an entry for
 DUB on ecosystem ?

 Also, looks that DWT isn't very active. Not should be a "GUI" entry to
 talk about GtkD, TkD and other GUI toolkits, instead focusing on one
 that looks that no body uses ?

 PD: I don't know the true state of DWT, but GtkD and TkD simply just
 works.

 I would discourage adding any more groups. I don't really get the
 point of having so many groups, if you have a question, use the main
 group or the learn group. That is where all of us are paying attention.

 I (and I presume many other D veterans) wouldn't see any discussions
 on other groups. The fact that other groups have little discussion is
 likely evidence that having other groups isn't helping questioners
 reach answers.

 I frequently go to a site with many categories for groups, and don't
 know where to post my question. I hate that.

 While I agree in general, the problem is that DUB has a dedicated forum
 "far away" from this forum. Sometimes, when people have a question, they
 don't know where to post it. Here or on the dedicated D forum run by
 Sönke. Now that DUB has become part of "official D", wouldn't it make
 sense to tie it in a bit better? Also, DUB questions are more frequent
 than GDC or LDC questions (not to mention DWT).

I see no problem with asking dub questions (or DWT or GDC or LDC 
questions) on this forum or d.learn. Sönke will see messages here as well.

-Steve

Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQ=?= writes:

On Thursday, 3 December 2015 at 13:20:43 UTC, Steven 
Schveighoffer wrote:
 I see no problem with asking dub questions (or DWT or GDC or 
 LDC questions) on this forum or d.learn. Sönke will see 
 messages here as well.

I think it's more that having a dedicated forum lowers the 
threshold for asking and makes it easier for users to browse for 
answers in existing threads. In the d.learn and d.general topics 
get buried real fast.

It also makes Dub more official. I think all the "official D" 
parts ought to be integrated in the main site. Less confusing for 
newbies who try to figure out what tech they should get started 
with.

Chris <wendlec tcd.ie> writes:

On Thursday, 3 December 2015 at 14:41:55 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad 
wrote:
 On Thursday, 3 December 2015 at 13:20:43 UTC, Steven 
 Schveighoffer wrote:
 I see no problem with asking dub questions (or DWT or GDC or 
 LDC questions) on this forum or d.learn. Sönke will see 
 messages here as well.

 I think it's more that having a dedicated forum lowers the 
 threshold for asking and makes it easier for users to browse 
 for answers in existing threads. In the d.learn and d.general 
 topics get buried real fast.

 It also makes Dub more official. I think all the "official D" 
 parts ought to be integrated in the main site. Less confusing 
 for newbies who try to figure out what tech they should get 
 started with.

I agree. +1

Steven Schveighoffer <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:

On 12/3/15 9:41 AM, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote:
 On Thursday, 3 December 2015 at 13:20:43 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
 I see no problem with asking dub questions (or DWT or GDC or LDC
 questions) on this forum or d.learn. Sönke will see messages here as
 well.

 I think it's more that having a dedicated forum lowers the threshold for
 asking and makes it easier for users to browse for answers in existing
 threads. In the d.learn and d.general topics get buried real fast.

Anyone looking for a previously asked question is going to have to use a 
search anyway. I've never been to a forum to ask a question, and just 
looked at the most recent topics to see if anyone's ever asked/answered 
that question.

 It also makes Dub more official. I think all the "official D" parts
 ought to be integrated in the main site. Less confusing for newbies who
 try to figure out what tech they should get started with.

Dub has a dedicated subdomain: code.dlang.org.

It has a link on the front page: "DUB - The D package registry"

I don't think it can be more official than that.

-Steve

Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQ=?= writes:

On Thursday, 3 December 2015 at 15:12:37 UTC, Steven 
Schveighoffer wrote:
 It has a link on the front page: "DUB - The D package registry"

 I don't think it can be more official than that.

I didn't think of it as "official" until the recent debate. YMMV. 
The look and feel is completely different and it even has its own 
forum.

Bubbasaur <bubba hotmail.com> writes:

On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 10:31:55 UTC, Luis wrote:
 Being DUB very important for D language... why there isn't an 
 entry for DUB on ecosystem ?

 Also, looks that DWT isn't very active. Not should be a "GUI" 
 entry to talk about GtkD, TkD and other GUI toolkits, instead 
 focusing on one that looks that no body uses ?

 PD: I don't know the true state of DWT, but GtkD and TkD simply 
 just works.

I'm against adding more groups, but in case of DUB I think it 
should be fine, and as you mentioned, GUI instead of DWT would be 
more reasonable.

Bubba.