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digitalmars.D - D is back on Tiobe, now in position 23

reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html

Andrei
May 20 2011
next sibling parent reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 5/20/11 3:35 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html

 Andrei

Oh wait, it was only missing from the shootout, not the index... no? Andrei
May 20 2011
next sibling parent "Jonathan M Davis" <jmdavisProg gmx.com> writes:
 On 5/20/11 3:35 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html
 
 Andrei

Oh wait, it was only missing from the shootout, not the index... no?

I'm not aware of a TIOBE shootout (and I don't see one looking at that page), but I believe that it's been in the index all along. It's just a question of where in the index it's been. Unfortunately, I don't see any way to look at previous charts on that site. - Jonathan M Davis
May 20 2011
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Robert Clipsham <robert octarineparrot.com> writes:
On 20/05/2011 21:39, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 On 5/20/11 3:35 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html

 Andrei

Oh wait, it was only missing from the shootout, not the index... no? Andrei

Correct. When I started with D a few years ago it was just missing the top 10 on TIOBE ;< -- Robert http://octarineparrot.com/
May 20 2011
next sibling parent reply Robert Clipsham <robert octarineparrot.com> writes:
On 20/05/2011 22:18, Robert Clipsham wrote:
 On 20/05/2011 21:39, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 On 5/20/11 3:35 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html

 Andrei

Oh wait, it was only missing from the shootout, not the index... no? Andrei

Correct. When I started with D a few years ago it was just missing the top 10 on TIOBE ;<

And yes, I know TIOBE is a completely useless index (read that as a list of sophisticated arguments you've read before about it rather than a single sentence :3) -- Robert http://octarineparrot.com/
May 20 2011
next sibling parent Matthias Pleh <jens konrad.net> writes:
Am 21.05.2011 08:02, schrieb Russel Winder:
 On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 22:19 +0100, Robert Clipsham wrote:
 [ . . . ]
 And yes, I know TIOBE is a completely useless index (read that as a list
 of sophisticated arguments you've read before about it rather than a
 single sentence :3)

I disagree that it is useless. It is interesting on two grounds: 1. If you have any sort of idea about what they are actually measuring and are careful no to over-infer, it is a very interesting measure of what is interesting to people in the Web-verse. It is a measure of "buzz". 2. It is interesting to see how people who have no idea of what is actually being measured use the results for decision making. There is an interesting ebb and flow between reinforcement of the status quo and promoting innovation. Also there is the ability to manipulate the system as Go did last year. Obviously though there are dangers . . .

<quote> The first 100 pages per search engine are checked for possible false positives and this is used to define the confidence factor. </quote> http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinf/tpci/tpci_definition.htm 'd programming' gives ca. 81.300.300 results on google ... _ Matthias
May 21 2011
prev sibling parent Peter Alexander <peter.alexander.au gmail.com> writes:
On 21/05/11 7:02 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
 I disagree that it is useless.  It is interesting on two grounds:

 1.  If you have any sort of idea about what they are actually measuring
 and are careful no to over-infer, it is a very interesting measure of
 what is interesting to people in the Web-verse.  It is a measure of
 "buzz".

It doesn't measure buzz. What are the 'buzz' languages at the moment? Clojure and Scala are both definitely buzzing at the moment and generating a lot of interest on the web, yet Scala isn't in the top 50 and Clojure isn't even in the top 100. If you can show me in any way how the programming language "Avenue" is buzzing more than Clojure (or is more popular on any measure) then I'll be impressed.
May 21 2011
prev sibling parent Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 5/20/2011 2:18 PM, Robert Clipsham wrote:
 On 20/05/2011 21:39, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 On 5/20/11 3:35 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html

 Andrei

Oh wait, it was only missing from the shootout, not the index... no? Andrei

Correct. When I started with D a few years ago it was just missing the top 10 on TIOBE ;<

It dropped when Tiobe changed the way they counted hits.
May 21 2011
prev sibling parent Russel Winder <russel russel.org.uk> writes:
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On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 22:19 +0100, Robert Clipsham wrote:
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I disagree that it is useless. It is interesting on two grounds: 1. If you have any sort of idea about what they are actually measuring and are careful no to over-infer, it is a very interesting measure of what is interesting to people in the Web-verse. It is a measure of "buzz". 2. It is interesting to see how people who have no idea of what is actually being measured use the results for decision making. There is an interesting ebb and flow between reinforcement of the status quo and promoting innovation. Also there is the ability to manipulate the system as Go did last year.=20 Obviously though there are dangers . . . --=20 Russel. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: sip:russel.winder ekiga.n= et 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: russel russel.org.uk London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder
May 20 2011
prev sibling parent reply "Paulo Pinto" <pjmlp progtools.org> writes:
And both D and Go win over VB.Net!

I know it is of topic for this group, but since bearophile sometimes talks 
about Ada,
what makes me wonder is why Ada is being steadly growing since 2010.

For some languages it is easy to know why their usage has grown. For example
the Objective-C spike happens around the time the native iPhone SDK became
available. Ruby around the time Ruby on Rails started appearing on everyones
blog.

So what about Ada?

Unfortunely for D, there is still no chart available, but I would say your 
book,
might represent such a spike as well.

--
Paulo

"Andrei Alexandrescu" <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote in message 
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 http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html

 Andrei 

May 21 2011
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Paulo Pinto wrote:
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 book,
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May 21 2011
prev sibling parent bearophile <bearophileHUGS lycos.com> writes:
Paulo Pinto:

 I know it is of topic for this group, but since bearophile sometimes talks 
 about Ada,
 what makes me wonder is why Ada is being steadly growing since 2010.

I don't know the answer. But people today use Ada (and even SPARK) for special code where every bug puts many lives at risk. Regarding Tiobe, it's bugus, your time is better spent doing birdwatching. Bye, bearophile
May 22 2011