• toki <t.kiefer tokis-edv-service.de> Aug 21 2009
• toki <t.kiefer tokis-edv-service.de> Aug 21 2009
• toki <t.kiefer tokis-edv-service.de> Aug 21 2009
• bearophile <bearophileHUGS lycos.com> Aug 21 2009
• Lutger <lutger.blijdestijn gmail.com> Aug 21 2009
• Dejan Lekic <dejan.lekic gmail.com> Aug 21 2009
• "Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy yahoo.com> Aug 21 2009
• Lutger <lutger.blijdestijn gmail.com> Aug 21 2009
• #ponce <aliloko gmail.com> Aug 21 2009
• #ponce <aliloko gmail.com> Aug 21 2009
• "Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy yahoo.com> Aug 21 2009
• Jesse Phillips <jessekphillips+d gmail.com> Aug 21 2009
• Thorsten Kiefer <thorstenkiefer gmx.de> Aug 24 2009

toki <t.kiefer tokis-edv-service.de> writes:

Hi,
I love D, and after using Java for years I want to switch back to D.
I'm too lazy to google, and so wanna ask you.
1. Is D still under development ? Is it still supported ?
2. Which GUI lib would you suggest - which is the most robust implementation ?
3. Are there any OpenGL bindings ? Are they stable ?
4. I often use HashMap, HashSet, TreeMap, TreeSet. Do they have counterparts in
D ?

Best Regards
Thorsten

toki <t.kiefer tokis-edv-service.de> writes:

toki Wrote:

 Hi,
 I love D, and after using Java for years I want to switch back to D.
 I'm too lazy to google, and so wanna ask you.
 1. Is D still under development ? Is it still supported ?
 2. Which GUI lib would you suggest - which is the most robust implementation ?
 3. Are there any OpenGL bindings ? Are they stable ?
 4. I often use HashMap, HashSet, TreeMap, TreeSet. Do they have counterparts
in D ?
 
 Best Regards
 Thorsten


5. And I need ODE bindings - for phsyics

Wanna code a game.

-Toki

toki <t.kiefer tokis-edv-service.de> writes:

toki Wrote:

 toki Wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I love D, and after using Java for years I want to switch back to D.
 I'm too lazy to google, and so wanna ask you.
 1. Is D still under development ? Is it still supported ?
 2. Which GUI lib would you suggest - which is the most robust implementation ?
 3. Are there any OpenGL bindings ? Are they stable ?
 4. I often use HashMap, HashSet, TreeMap, TreeSet. Do they have counterparts
in D ?
 
 Best Regards
 Thorsten


 5. And I need ODE bindings - for phsyics
 
 Wanna code a game.
 
 -Toki
 


6. And some sort of DefaultMutableTreeModel.

-Toki

bearophile <bearophileHUGS lycos.com> writes:

toki:

I love D, and after using Java for years I want to switch back to D.<


Welcome to D. You can program D almost as C, or as C++, or as Java. The best
strategy is often to mix such three styles and to add some other things coming
from functional programming and specific of D (mixins, etc).
Programming D in pure Java-style will lead to low performance (because the GC
is quite slower and virtual functions generally aren't inlined yet).


 1. Is D still under development ? Is it still supported ?


D1 and D2 are supported. D1 is mostly in debug mode, D2 is alpha state still.


 3. Are there any OpenGL bindings ?


Yep.


 4. I often use HashMap, HashSet, TreeMap, TreeSet. Do they have counterparts
in D ?<


HashMaps are buil-in in D. You can probably find those in Tango. I don't know
about TreeSet.


DefaultMutableTreeModel<


I think that in D people usually create their own trees. there are too many
different types of them (I have seen some implementations).

I leave the other questions to other people.

Bye,
bearophile

Lutger <lutger.blijdestijn gmail.com> writes:

toki wrote:

 Hi,
 I love D, and after using Java for years I want to switch back to D.
 I'm too lazy to google, and so wanna ask you.
 1. Is D still under development ? Is it still supported ?
 2. Which GUI lib would you suggest - which is the most robust
 implementation ? 3. Are there any OpenGL bindings ? Are they stable ?
 4. I often use HashMap, HashSet, TreeMap, TreeSet. Do they have
 counterparts in D ?
 
 Best Regards
 Thorsten


1) D is under heavy development and has branched into a stable (frozen) 
version D1 and alpha, backwards incompatible D2. For D1 there is the dmd 
compiler and ldc compiler (supports also 64 bit but not windows). 

4) For D1 there is an alternative library incompatible with phobos: tango. 
It is comprehensive and has high performance, also a good collections 
library. 

2) The big ones are dwt (port of swt), wxWindows, gtkd and qtd. I think most 
stable is currently gtkd, but I'm not sure. Hybrid might also be interesting 
for a game.

3) Yes, derelict offers a plethora of game-oriented bindings to common c 
libraries and is very popular. It also has an ODE binding. 

links:
www.dsource.org/projects/ldc
www.dsource.org/projects/derelict
www.dsource.org/projects/tango
http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GuiLibraries

Happy hacking!

Dejan Lekic <dejan.lekic gmail.com> writes:

I would recommend the excellent Pluto (former fltk4d) GUI toolkit.
For more information: http://dronten.googlepages.com/pluto .

Lutger Wrote:

 toki wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I love D, and after using Java for years I want to switch back to D.
 I'm too lazy to google, and so wanna ask you.
 1. Is D still under development ? Is it still supported ?
 2. Which GUI lib would you suggest - which is the most robust
 implementation ? 3. Are there any OpenGL bindings ? Are they stable ?
 4. I often use HashMap, HashSet, TreeMap, TreeSet. Do they have
 counterparts in D ?
 
 Best Regards
 Thorsten


 1) D is under heavy development and has branched into a stable (frozen) 
 version D1 and alpha, backwards incompatible D2. For D1 there is the dmd 
 compiler and ldc compiler (supports also 64 bit but not windows). 
 
 4) For D1 there is an alternative library incompatible with phobos: tango. 
 It is comprehensive and has high performance, also a good collections 
 library. 
 
 2) The big ones are dwt (port of swt), wxWindows, gtkd and qtd. I think most 
 stable is currently gtkd, but I'm not sure. Hybrid might also be interesting 
 for a game.
 
 3) Yes, derelict offers a plethora of game-oriented bindings to common c 
 libraries and is very popular. It also has an ODE binding. 
 
 links:
 www.dsource.org/projects/ldc
 www.dsource.org/projects/derelict
 www.dsource.org/projects/tango
 http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GuiLibraries
 
 Happy hacking!
 

"Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:

On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:18:04 -0400, toki <t.kiefer tokis-edv-service.de>  
wrote:

 4. I often use HashMap, HashSet, TreeMap, TreeSet. Do they have  
 counterparts in D ?


As an alternative to the already suggested Tango libs, you can use  
dcollections (http://www.dsource.org/projects/dcollections) which has all  
those.  Should work with Phobos 1 and Tango, I haven't yet ported to D2.

-Steve

Lutger <lutger.blijdestijn gmail.com> writes:

Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

 On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:18:04 -0400, toki <t.kiefer tokis-edv-service.de>
 wrote:
 
 4. I often use HashMap, HashSet, TreeMap, TreeSet. Do they have
 counterparts in D ?


 As an alternative to the already suggested Tango libs, you can use
 dcollections (http://www.dsource.org/projects/dcollections) which has all
 those.  Should work with Phobos 1 and Tango, I haven't yet ported to D2.
 
 -Steve


A little offtopic, but are you planning to support D2? And use ranges? 
Thanks.

#ponce <aliloko gmail.com> writes:

 3. Are there any OpenGL bindings ? Are they stable ?


DerelictGL support OpenGL up to 2.1. I think it's sufficient at this time
There is also a plan to support OpenGL 3.x through Derelict2.

Derelict is more than a simple binding, you can tell Derelict which OpenGL
version you need or to load available extension.
It's very convenient, since in C++ you would have to use GLEW to do that.

 4. I often use HashMap, HashSet, TreeMap, TreeSet. Do they have counterparts
in D ?


dcollections or Tango.

Also : a lot of useful code/bindings for games can be through on h3r3tic's page
and dsource.

#ponce <aliloko gmail.com> writes:

 Also : a lot of useful code/bindings for games can be through on h3r3tic's
page and dsource.

"Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:

On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:00:48 -0400, Lutger <lutger.blijdestijn gmail.com>  
wrote:

 Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

 On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:18:04 -0400, toki <t.kiefer tokis-edv-service.de>
 wrote:

 4. I often use HashMap, HashSet, TreeMap, TreeSet. Do they have
 counterparts in D ?


 As an alternative to the already suggested Tango libs, you can use
 dcollections (http://www.dsource.org/projects/dcollections) which has  
 all
 those.  Should work with Phobos 1 and Tango, I haven't yet ported to D2.

 -Steve


 A little offtopic, but are you planning to support D2?


Yes.

 And use ranges?


Yes.

Not sure of an ETA, though.  It's definitely on my list of things to do  
this year.

-Steve

Jesse Phillips <jessekphillips+d gmail.com> writes:

Not really adding anything from those that have already posted.

toki Wrote:

 Hi,
 I love D, and after using Java for years I want to switch back to D.
 I'm too lazy to google, and so wanna ask you.
 1. Is D still under development ? Is it still supported ?


http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?FrontPage

 2. Which GUI lib would you suggest - which is the most robust implementation ?


http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GuiLibraries

 3. Are there any OpenGL bindings ? Are they stable ?


http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?Bindings

 4. I often use HashMap, HashSet, TreeMap, TreeSet. Do they have counterparts
in D ?


... sorry no Wiki4D page on this :( but others have already answered.

 
 Best Regards
 Thorsten


Hope this helps you answer other questions.

Thorsten Kiefer <thorstenkiefer gmx.de> writes:

Thanks a lot ot everybody who answered !!!


toki Wrote:

 Hi,
 I love D, and after using Java for years I want to switch back to D.
 I'm too lazy to google, and so wanna ask you.
 1. Is D still under development ? Is it still supported ?
 2. Which GUI lib would you suggest - which is the most robust implementation ?
 3. Are there any OpenGL bindings ? Are they stable ?
 4. I often use HashMap, HashSet, TreeMap, TreeSet. Do they have counterparts
in D ?
 
 Best Regards
 Thorsten