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reply Laeeth Isharc <laeeth laeeth.com> writes:
http://erdani.com/d/downloads.daily.png

Bad data, one off spike, or something else?
Dec 23 2017
next sibling parent Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 12/23/2017 1:04 PM, Laeeth Isharc wrote:

 http://erdani.com/d/downloads.daily.png
 
 Bad data, one off spike, or something else?


Wow!
Dec 23 2017
prev sibling next sibling parent "H. S. Teoh" <hsteoh quickfur.ath.cx> writes:
On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 09:04:52PM +0000, Laeeth Isharc via Digitalmars-d wrote:

 http://erdani.com/d/downloads.daily.png
 
 Bad data, one off spike, or something else?


D is finally catching on? :-D  (So I hope. :-P)


T

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Food and laptops don't mix.
Dec 23 2017
prev sibling next sibling parent Patrick Schluter <Patrick.Schluter bbox.fr> writes:
On Saturday, 23 December 2017 at 21:04:52 UTC, Laeeth Isharc 
wrote:

 http://erdani.com/d/downloads.daily.png

 Bad data, one off spike, or something else?


OOps, hadn't seen this thread. Sorry.
Dec 24 2017
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Guillaume Piolat <first.last gmail.com> writes:
On Saturday, 23 December 2017 at 21:04:52 UTC, Laeeth Isharc 
wrote:

 http://erdani.com/d/downloads.daily.png

 Bad data, one off spike, or something else?


Perdon my skepticism, but there is a higher chance that a new web 
crawler is downloading DMD multiple times - that isn't filtered 
out by the script - rather than users being suddenly three times 
as many.
Dec 24 2017
parent reply Laeeth Isharc <laeethnospam nospam.laeeth.com> writes:
On Sunday, 24 December 2017 at 12:25:49 UTC, Guillaume Piolat 
wrote:

 On Saturday, 23 December 2017 at 21:04:52 UTC, Laeeth Isharc 
 wrote:

 http://erdani.com/d/downloads.daily.png

 Bad data, one off spike, or something else?


 Perdon my skepticism, but there is a higher chance that a new 
 web crawler is downloading DMD multiple times - that isn't 
 filtered out by the script - rather than users being suddenly 
 three times as many.


We don't know until we study the data (which should be simple to 
do if someone is curious and has access to it).  Social phenomena 
are very strange, much stranger than economists and other 
students of social data recognise.  I looked at that chart 
recently, and thought explosive.  I didn't expect to see that 
kind of spike.  (It's supposed to be a 28-day moving average - is 
that right?)  In a market that spikes due to noise trades it's 
not that uncommon for it to head there for real a little while 
later in a less ephemeral way...  Maybe non-traded social 
phenomena are completely different, but they might be more 
similar to market phenomena than people think.  So, yes, the 
spike is probably in part noise but look at the broader context.  
People are not very good at understanding at a deep level the 
implications of compound growth, sustained over time.

I didn't get involved with D because I thought it would become 
popular, but I've been saying since 2014 that language advocates 
are pushing at an open door because external conditions are 
changing in the direction where what D offers becomes more useful 
to a wider audience. William Gibson had a character observe that 
the future is already here, just unevenly distributed.  And I 
think that's the case with adoption of D (the problems that early 
adopters face, and that recognise they face, for which D is a 
good and practical answer for them will become more prevalent 
over time).

Digicash was launched in 1989.  The cypherpunks list began in 
1992.  I remember reading a message by Tim May a few months after 
the list began setting out the reasons why cryptocurrency would 
succeed, and he was obviously right.  But it took a very long 
time for it to gain traction.  (The first person to receive 
Bitcoin was Hal Finney, a prominent member of both the extropians 
and cypherpunks lists).  One could have reasonably said for many 
years 'cryptocurrency hasn't taken off, so it won't'.  But that's 
not how social phenomena develop.  They build slowly in the 
beginning, and there are certain thresholds of perception that 
need to be surpassed for a broader audience to start to get it.  
And things only break out into the world when external conditions 
are ripe - but those earlier years are very important for the 
thing to reach a level of maturity and refinement that simply 
could not have been possible had popularity been achieved earlier.

It's not true that there are no jobs in D - we are hiring at 
least four people (depending on the people likely to be working 
at least partly in D), as are others - but maybe it was important 
for the development of the language that in the beginning there 
weren't jobs.  Because the only people that were involved were 
those that were intrinsically motivated, and that's important to 
get to technical excellence...


Laeeth.
Dec 24 2017
parent reply Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 12/24/2017 7:33 AM, Laeeth Isharc wrote:

(The first person to receive 
 Bitcoin was Hal Finney, a prominent member of both the extropians and 
 cypherpunks lists).


Hal was in the dorm room next to mine when I was a freshman. He was one of the 
smartest people I've ever known, by a wide margin. Also one of the nicest.

I've always suspected Hal of being Satoshi :-) A grand joke like that is 
something he'd do.
Dec 28 2017
parent Laeeth Isharc <laeethnospam nospam.laeeth.com> writes:
On Thursday, 28 December 2017 at 22:02:16 UTC, Walter Bright 
wrote:

 On 12/24/2017 7:33 AM, Laeeth Isharc wrote:

(The first person to receive
 Bitcoin was Hal Finney, a prominent member of both the 
 extropians and cypherpunks lists).


 Hal was in the dorm room next to mine when I was a freshman. He 
 was one of the smartest people I've ever known, by a wide 
 margin. Also one of the nicest.

 I've always suspected Hal of being Satoshi :-) A grand joke 
 like that is something he'd do.


Some people reasonably well placed to have an idea think he was 
part of the group mind that Satoshi became...

I dug out the archives recently for both mailing lists.  Amazing 
the high level of discussion back then, and how those fringe 
ideas became mainstream.  It took a while though!
Jan 01 2018
prev sibling parent reply codephantom <me noyb.com> writes:
On Saturday, 23 December 2017 at 21:04:52 UTC, Laeeth Isharc 
wrote:

 http://erdani.com/d/downloads.daily.png

 Bad data, one off spike, or something else?



https://successfulsoftware.net/2015/05/14/the-mystery-of-the-chinese-downloads/
Dec 29 2017
parent Laeeth Isharc <laeethnospam nospam.laeeth.com> writes:
On Saturday, 30 December 2017 at 00:14:45 UTC, codephantom wrote:

 On Saturday, 23 December 2017 at 21:04:52 UTC, Laeeth Isharc 
 wrote:

 http://erdani.com/d/downloads.daily.png

 Bad data, one off spike, or something else?



 https://successfulsoftware.net/2015/05/14/the-mystery-of-the-chinese-downloads/


Maybe we should produce two charts, one filtering out Chinese IPs
Jan 01 2018