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reply lurker <lurker mailinator.com> writes:
So, what happened with the videos of the last conference? Last thing I heard
was that they were going to be delivered on Friday (like two months ago).

Did I miss them?

Thanks
Jul 08 2008
next sibling parent "Simen Kjaeraas" <simen.kjaras gmail.com> writes:
lurker <lurker mailinator.com> wrote:

 So, what happened with the videos of the last conference? Last thing I  
 heard was that they were going to be delivered on Friday (like two  
 months ago).

 Did I miss them?

 Thanks

I think they have passed into the realm of myths and legends. Soon, these fabled pieces of history will be remembered only by those who were there, and then they will be lost forever. -- Simen
Jul 08 2008
prev sibling parent reply "Koroskin Denis" <2korden gmail.com> writes:
On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:33:55 +0400, lurker <lurker mailinator.com> wrote:

 So, what happened with the videos of the last conference? Last thing I  
 heard was that they were going to be delivered on Friday (like two  
 months ago).

 Did I miss them?

 Thanks

We all miss them... Speaking serously, these are the last news on topic (to my knowledge): On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:46:58 +0400, Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> wrote:
 On the good news front.  I have the videos from 2007 finally!  I need to
 watch them and get google video's to digest them.  This will take some
 time and I'll try to get it done asap.  My first attempt to send one to
 google looks to be a bust (2 seconds of gray != 90 minutes of
 presentation).  More on this over the course of the week.

So, we still have a hope!
Jul 08 2008
parent reply Brad Roberts <braddr bellevue.puremagic.com> writes:
On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Koroskin Denis wrote:

 On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:33:55 +0400, lurker <lurker mailinator.com> wrote:
 
 So, what happened with the videos of the last conference? Last thing I heard
 was that they were going to be delivered on Friday (like two months ago).
 
 Did I miss them?
 
 Thanks

We all miss them... Speaking serously, these are the last news on topic (to my knowledge): On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:46:58 +0400, Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> wrote:
 On the good news front.  I have the videos from 2007 finally!  I need to
 watch them and get google video's to digest them.  This will take some
 time and I'll try to get it done asap.  My first attempt to send one to
 google looks to be a bust (2 seconds of gray != 90 minutes of
 presentation).  More on this over the course of the week.
 

So, we still have a hope!

It's true.. I really do have them. I've even watched a tiny portion of the two days. It's no longer anyone's fault but mine that they're not posted. I'd intended to watch to confirm the quality of the videos and post them this past holiday weekend, but then I went and got sick instead. I'd have much rather watched the videos, trust me. I'll do my best to get at least walter and andrei's talks posted tonight with the rest to follow as I can. Later, Brad
Jul 08 2008
next sibling parent Jason House <jason.james.house gmail.com> writes:
Brad Roberts Wrote:

 I'd intended to watch to confirm the quality of the videos

Why make that a one man's job? If you post them, I'm sure you'll have plenty of people watching them and pointing out problems.
Jul 08 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent Dave Akers <dazoe dazoe.net> writes:
Brad Roberts wrote:
 On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Koroskin Denis wrote:
 
 On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:33:55 +0400, lurker <lurker mailinator.com> wrote:

 So, what happened with the videos of the last conference? Last thing I heard
 was that they were going to be delivered on Friday (like two months ago).

 Did I miss them?

 Thanks

Speaking serously, these are the last news on topic (to my knowledge): On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:46:58 +0400, Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> wrote:
 On the good news front.  I have the videos from 2007 finally!  I need to
 watch them and get google video's to digest them.  This will take some
 time and I'll try to get it done asap.  My first attempt to send one to
 google looks to be a bust (2 seconds of gray != 90 minutes of
 presentation).  More on this over the course of the week.


It's true.. I really do have them. I've even watched a tiny portion of the two days. It's no longer anyone's fault but mine that they're not posted. I'd intended to watch to confirm the quality of the videos and post them this past holiday weekend, but then I went and got sick instead. I'd have much rather watched the videos, trust me. I'll do my best to get at least walter and andrei's talks posted tonight with the rest to follow as I can. Later, Brad

Please post them soon... I'd really like to watch these... If webspace is an issue i have a server which i can host them on. -Dave
Jul 08 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent JAnderson <ask me.com> writes:
Brad Roberts wrote:
 On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Koroskin Denis wrote:
 
 On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:33:55 +0400, lurker <lurker mailinator.com> wrote:

 So, what happened with the videos of the last conference? Last thing I heard
 was that they were going to be delivered on Friday (like two months ago).

 Did I miss them?

 Thanks

Speaking serously, these are the last news on topic (to my knowledge): On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:46:58 +0400, Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> wrote:
 On the good news front.  I have the videos from 2007 finally!  I need to
 watch them and get google video's to digest them.  This will take some
 time and I'll try to get it done asap.  My first attempt to send one to
 google looks to be a bust (2 seconds of gray != 90 minutes of
 presentation).  More on this over the course of the week.


It's true.. I really do have them. I've even watched a tiny portion of the two days. It's no longer anyone's fault but mine that they're not posted. I'd intended to watch to confirm the quality of the videos and post them this past holiday weekend, but then I went and got sick instead. I'd have much rather watched the videos, trust me. I'll do my best to get at least walter and andrei's talks posted tonight with the rest to follow as I can. Later, Brad

I wonder where the best places to announce these videos publicly are? I mean once you release them. Perhaps digit? A high volume of links to the videos will increase their google popularity rating right? -Joel
Jul 08 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent reply lurker <lurker mailinator.com> writes:
Hi Brad.


Brad Roberts Wrote:
 I'll do my best to get at least walter and andrei's talks posted tonight 
 with the rest to follow as I can.

Did you had time to post them? I'm sorry to be bugging you, but I can't wait to see those videos :D For the impatient like me, here's an oldie: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7073020265668105471 That's Walter's NWCPP presentation. --- The original Lurker
Jul 09 2008
next sibling parent reply superdan <super dan.org> writes:
Brad Roberts Wrote:

 lurker wrote:
 Hi Brad.
 
 Brad Roberts Wrote:
 I'll do my best to get at least walter and andrei's talks posted tonight 
 with the rest to follow as I can.

Did you had time to post them? I'm sorry to be bugging you, but I can't wait to see those videos :D

Short form: Google now has both parts of 'the future of d', marked private until I finish watching both parts (uploaded before I got a chance to watch it, so doing so directly from google rather than the file I sent). Long form: Google video is a pain in the ass. It accepted the first upload (over a gig), but wouldn't let me view it. The second time (700 meg version -- lower bitrate) I tried to upload it, it took all night. I started it when I got home last night and after 4 hours, it was still trickling slow over (no where near my bandwidth caps). It finished while I slept. I started the upload of the second half to occur while I was at work today and it looks like it took 3ish hours (for another 700 megs). I'm going to finish watching both halves tonight while more videos are uploading. As I watch them, I'll mark them public and post the relevant info on .announce. The primary reason I'm watching them is that at least one of them is _supposed_ to have a discussion at the end trimmed out. I don't remember exactly when it occurred (other than that it was on the second day). It diverged into the single issue that I was asked to stay away from when I got permission to host the conference... licenses. That's the ONLY topic that won't be posted publicly and only constituted about 10-15 minutes. Quality is the second, and won't stop me from uploading unless it's outright unwatchable. Making sure they're _my_ videos is the third. I won't want to be responsible for posting videos from other amazon presentations publicly by accident. It'd take a lot of really stupid accidents to have that happen, but it only takes watching 'em once through to be certain, so it's a small price to pay. The quality of the parts I've watched as been 'ok' but not 'great'. More soon..

brad you are a great guy & all. but with all due respect. what in the fuck is going on with those amazmoron lawyers. what the fuck is their problem. not only they sit one fucking year. no sorry. i mean not only they sit ONE FUCKING YEAR (and i fucking swore i'll never use caps again) on the videos like they're getting off them. perverts. but at the end they can't fucking give you proper fucking files or at least some fucking timings on what to remove. shit. you now have to watch all over just in case walter took his shorts off. geez. been waiting for those vids like a baboon in heat. pun not intended. shit.
Jul 09 2008
next sibling parent superdan <super dan.org> writes:
Brad Roberts Wrote:

 superdan wrote:
 Brad Roberts Wrote:
 
 lurker wrote:
 Hi Brad.

 Brad Roberts Wrote:
 I'll do my best to get at least walter and andrei's talks posted tonight 
 with the rest to follow as I can.


Google now has both parts of 'the future of d', marked private until I finish watching both parts (uploaded before I got a chance to watch it, so doing so directly from google rather than the file I sent). Long form: Google video is a pain in the ass. It accepted the first upload (over a gig), but wouldn't let me view it. The second time (700 meg version -- lower bitrate) I tried to upload it, it took all night. I started it when I got home last night and after 4 hours, it was still trickling slow over (no where near my bandwidth caps). It finished while I slept. I started the upload of the second half to occur while I was at work today and it looks like it took 3ish hours (for another 700 megs). I'm going to finish watching both halves tonight while more videos are uploading. As I watch them, I'll mark them public and post the relevant info on .announce. The primary reason I'm watching them is that at least one of them is _supposed_ to have a discussion at the end trimmed out. I don't remember exactly when it occurred (other than that it was on the second day). It diverged into the single issue that I was asked to stay away from when I got permission to host the conference... licenses. That's the ONLY topic that won't be posted publicly and only constituted about 10-15 minutes. Quality is the second, and won't stop me from uploading unless it's outright unwatchable. Making sure they're _my_ videos is the third. I won't want to be responsible for posting videos from other amazon presentations publicly by accident. It'd take a lot of really stupid accidents to have that happen, but it only takes watching 'em once through to be certain, so it's a small price to pay. The quality of the parts I've watched as been 'ok' but not 'great'. More soon..

brad you are a great guy & all. but with all due respect. what in the fuck is going on with those amazmoron lawyers. what the fuck is their problem. not only they sit one fucking year. no sorry. i mean not only they sit ONE FUCKING YEAR (and i fucking swore i'll never use caps again) on the videos like they're getting off them. perverts. but at the end they can't fucking give you proper fucking files or at least some fucking timings on what to remove. shit. you now have to watch all over just in case walter took his shorts off. geez. been waiting for those vids like a baboon in heat. pun not intended. shit.

Ahem.. you're _way_ off base here. The _only_ aspect at which Amazon could be blamed is the time it took to get me the videos

yarp it's not "only". it's pretty much it.
Jul 09 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> writes:
superdan wrote:
 Brad Roberts Wrote:
 
 superdan wrote:
 Brad Roberts Wrote:

 lurker wrote:
 Hi Brad.

 Brad Roberts Wrote:
 I'll do my best to get at least walter and andrei's talks posted tonight 
 with the rest to follow as I can.


Google now has both parts of 'the future of d', marked private until I finish watching both parts (uploaded before I got a chance to watch it, so doing so directly from google rather than the file I sent). Long form: Google video is a pain in the ass. It accepted the first upload (over a gig), but wouldn't let me view it. The second time (700 meg version -- lower bitrate) I tried to upload it, it took all night. I started it when I got home last night and after 4 hours, it was still trickling slow over (no where near my bandwidth caps). It finished while I slept. I started the upload of the second half to occur while I was at work today and it looks like it took 3ish hours (for another 700 megs). I'm going to finish watching both halves tonight while more videos are uploading. As I watch them, I'll mark them public and post the relevant info on .announce. The primary reason I'm watching them is that at least one of them is _supposed_ to have a discussion at the end trimmed out. I don't remember exactly when it occurred (other than that it was on the second day). It diverged into the single issue that I was asked to stay away from when I got permission to host the conference... licenses. That's the ONLY topic that won't be posted publicly and only constituted about 10-15 minutes. Quality is the second, and won't stop me from uploading unless it's outright unwatchable. Making sure they're _my_ videos is the third. I won't want to be responsible for posting videos from other amazon presentations publicly by accident. It'd take a lot of really stupid accidents to have that happen, but it only takes watching 'em once through to be certain, so it's a small price to pay. The quality of the parts I've watched as been 'ok' but not 'great'. More soon..


The _only_ aspect at which Amazon could be blamed is the time it took to get me the videos

yarp it's not "only". it's pretty much it.

It's entirely you're right to feel slighted and feel free to continue to feel that way, however... I should make it clear that the delay had nothing to do with lawyers or any policy problems. Remember that I work for Amazon (and respect the people I work with) and that they donated the space and an awful lot of money. Additionally, they were prepared to host it again, but I canceled purely due to lack of talks from the community. Be glad that the conference happened at all. Be glad that I volunteered to put in the time and effort to bring it together. Be glad that the pdf and ppt files have been available since the conference ended. Be glad that the thing was taped _at all_. And as soon as I hit the public button, be glad you're able to watch them. Bad talk me and the company I work for further, and I'll be very tempted to take my toys and go home, so to speak. Sigh, Brad
Jul 09 2008
parent reply "Jarrett Billingsley" <kb3ctd2 yahoo.com> writes:
"Brad Roberts" <braddr puremagic.com> wrote in message 
news:mailman.14.1215664690.32098.digitalmars-d puremagic.com...

 It's entirely you're right to feel slighted and feel free to continue to
 feel that way, however...

 I should make it clear that the delay had nothing to do with lawyers or
 any policy problems.  Remember that I work for Amazon (and respect the
 people I work with) and that they donated the space and an awful lot of
 money.  Additionally, they were prepared to host it again, but I
 canceled purely due to lack of talks from the community.

 Be glad that the conference happened at all.  Be glad that I volunteered
 to put in the time and effort to bring it together.  Be glad that the
 pdf and ppt files have been available since the conference ended.  Be
 glad that the thing was taped _at all_.  And as soon as I hit the public
 button, be glad you're able to watch them.  Bad talk me and the company
 I work for further, and I'll be very tempted to take my toys and go
 home, so to speak.

 Sigh,
 Brad

Please don't let superdan get to you. With any luck he'll blow out of here just as soon as he blew in.
Jul 10 2008
parent superdan <super dan.org> writes:
Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:

 "Brad Roberts" <braddr puremagic.com> wrote in message 
 news:mailman.14.1215664690.32098.digitalmars-d puremagic.com...
 
 It's entirely you're right to feel slighted and feel free to continue to
 feel that way, however...

 I should make it clear that the delay had nothing to do with lawyers or
 any policy problems.  Remember that I work for Amazon (and respect the
 people I work with) and that they donated the space and an awful lot of
 money.  Additionally, they were prepared to host it again, but I
 canceled purely due to lack of talks from the community.

 Be glad that the conference happened at all.  Be glad that I volunteered
 to put in the time and effort to bring it together.  Be glad that the
 pdf and ppt files have been available since the conference ended.  Be
 glad that the thing was taped _at all_.  And as soon as I hit the public
 button, be glad you're able to watch them.  Bad talk me and the company
 I work for further, and I'll be very tempted to take my toys and go
 home, so to speak.

 Sigh,
 Brad

Please don't let superdan get to you. With any luck he'll blow out of here just as soon as he blew in.

yarp i agree i came off too strongly. (but one year???) sorry brad. you definitely are a great dood. thank you for all the fish.
Jul 10 2008
prev sibling parent JAnderson <ask me.com> writes:
Brad Roberts wrote:
 superdan wrote:
 Brad Roberts Wrote:

 lurker wrote:
 Hi Brad.

 Brad Roberts Wrote:
 I'll do my best to get at least walter and andrei's talks posted tonight 
 with the rest to follow as I can.


Google now has both parts of 'the future of d', marked private until I finish watching both parts (uploaded before I got a chance to watch it, so doing so directly from google rather than the file I sent). Long form: Google video is a pain in the ass. It accepted the first upload (over a gig), but wouldn't let me view it. The second time (700 meg version -- lower bitrate) I tried to upload it, it took all night. I started it when I got home last night and after 4 hours, it was still trickling slow over (no where near my bandwidth caps). It finished while I slept. I started the upload of the second half to occur while I was at work today and it looks like it took 3ish hours (for another 700 megs). I'm going to finish watching both halves tonight while more videos are uploading. As I watch them, I'll mark them public and post the relevant info on .announce. The primary reason I'm watching them is that at least one of them is _supposed_ to have a discussion at the end trimmed out. I don't remember exactly when it occurred (other than that it was on the second day). It diverged into the single issue that I was asked to stay away from when I got permission to host the conference... licenses. That's the ONLY topic that won't be posted publicly and only constituted about 10-15 minutes. Quality is the second, and won't stop me from uploading unless it's outright unwatchable. Making sure they're _my_ videos is the third. I won't want to be responsible for posting videos from other amazon presentations publicly by accident. It'd take a lot of really stupid accidents to have that happen, but it only takes watching 'em once through to be certain, so it's a small price to pay. The quality of the parts I've watched as been 'ok' but not 'great'. More soon..


Ahem.. you're _way_ off base here. The _only_ aspect at which Amazon could be blamed is the time it took to get me the videos, but I'm also cutting the guys a bunch of slack due to reasons I'm NOT GOING TO GO INTO. Every thing else is _me_ and _my_ desire to be cautious. You want to blame me for it, fine. Go ahead. It's your problem and I don't give a rats ass. Later, Brad

Hi Brad, Thanks for doing this. Your not getting paid for this so I'm happy with whatever we get. We should just be thankful that any videos are being uploaded at all. -Joel
Jul 09 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> writes:
superdan wrote:
 Brad Roberts Wrote:
 
 lurker wrote:
 Hi Brad.

 Brad Roberts Wrote:
 I'll do my best to get at least walter and andrei's talks posted tonight 
 with the rest to follow as I can.


Google now has both parts of 'the future of d', marked private until I finish watching both parts (uploaded before I got a chance to watch it, so doing so directly from google rather than the file I sent). Long form: Google video is a pain in the ass. It accepted the first upload (over a gig), but wouldn't let me view it. The second time (700 meg version -- lower bitrate) I tried to upload it, it took all night. I started it when I got home last night and after 4 hours, it was still trickling slow over (no where near my bandwidth caps). It finished while I slept. I started the upload of the second half to occur while I was at work today and it looks like it took 3ish hours (for another 700 megs). I'm going to finish watching both halves tonight while more videos are uploading. As I watch them, I'll mark them public and post the relevant info on .announce. The primary reason I'm watching them is that at least one of them is _supposed_ to have a discussion at the end trimmed out. I don't remember exactly when it occurred (other than that it was on the second day). It diverged into the single issue that I was asked to stay away from when I got permission to host the conference... licenses. That's the ONLY topic that won't be posted publicly and only constituted about 10-15 minutes. Quality is the second, and won't stop me from uploading unless it's outright unwatchable. Making sure they're _my_ videos is the third. I won't want to be responsible for posting videos from other amazon presentations publicly by accident. It'd take a lot of really stupid accidents to have that happen, but it only takes watching 'em once through to be certain, so it's a small price to pay. The quality of the parts I've watched as been 'ok' but not 'great'. More soon..

brad you are a great guy & all. but with all due respect. what in the fuck is going on with those amazmoron lawyers. what the fuck is their problem. not only they sit one fucking year. no sorry. i mean not only they sit ONE FUCKING YEAR (and i fucking swore i'll never use caps again) on the videos like they're getting off them. perverts. but at the end they can't fucking give you proper fucking files or at least some fucking timings on what to remove. shit. you now have to watch all over just in case walter took his shorts off. geez. been waiting for those vids like a baboon in heat. pun not intended. shit.

Ahem.. you're _way_ off base here. The _only_ aspect at which Amazon could be blamed is the time it took to get me the videos, but I'm also cutting the guys a bunch of slack due to reasons I'm NOT GOING TO GO INTO. Every thing else is _me_ and _my_ desire to be cautious. You want to blame me for it, fine. Go ahead. It's your problem and I don't give a rats ass. Later, Brad
Jul 09 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> writes:
Thanks for doing all this work for us, Brad!
Jul 09 2008
prev sibling parent Lutger <lutger.blijdestijn gmail.com> writes:
It's great to hear progress on the videos, that'll make a lot of people
happy. Thanks for all your efforts, not only the videos but I imagine you
have put a lot of time in D. 
Jul 09 2008
prev sibling parent Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> writes:
lurker wrote:
 Hi Brad.
 
 Brad Roberts Wrote:
 I'll do my best to get at least walter and andrei's talks posted tonight 
 with the rest to follow as I can.

Did you had time to post them? I'm sorry to be bugging you, but I can't wait to see those videos :D

Short form: Google now has both parts of 'the future of d', marked private until I finish watching both parts (uploaded before I got a chance to watch it, so doing so directly from google rather than the file I sent). Long form: Google video is a pain in the ass. It accepted the first upload (over a gig), but wouldn't let me view it. The second time (700 meg version -- lower bitrate) I tried to upload it, it took all night. I started it when I got home last night and after 4 hours, it was still trickling slow over (no where near my bandwidth caps). It finished while I slept. I started the upload of the second half to occur while I was at work today and it looks like it took 3ish hours (for another 700 megs). I'm going to finish watching both halves tonight while more videos are uploading. As I watch them, I'll mark them public and post the relevant info on .announce. The primary reason I'm watching them is that at least one of them is _supposed_ to have a discussion at the end trimmed out. I don't remember exactly when it occurred (other than that it was on the second day). It diverged into the single issue that I was asked to stay away from when I got permission to host the conference... licenses. That's the ONLY topic that won't be posted publicly and only constituted about 10-15 minutes. Quality is the second, and won't stop me from uploading unless it's outright unwatchable. Making sure they're _my_ videos is the third. I won't want to be responsible for posting videos from other amazon presentations publicly by accident. It'd take a lot of really stupid accidents to have that happen, but it only takes watching 'em once through to be certain, so it's a small price to pay. The quality of the parts I've watched as been 'ok' but not 'great'. More soon.. Later, Brad
Jul 09 2008