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reply Extrawurst <spam extrawurst.org> writes:
I hardly dare to ask, but has there been any progress publishing the 
videos of the presentations of the D Conference this year 2007, which 
doesn't happen to last long anymore.

~the ducking Extrawurst :)
Dec 06 2007
parent reply Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> writes:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Extrawurst wrote:

 I hardly dare to ask, but has there been any progress publishing the videos of
 the presentations of the D Conference this year 2007, which doesn't happen to
 last long anymore.
 
 ~the ducking Extrawurst :)

Sigh. I've been trying to find out, but my last few emails to the guy have gone unanswered. I'll have to wander to his office one day when I have some spare time to camp out or something. Sorry it's taking so long. Rather embarassing. Everything else about the conference went so smoothly. Later, Brad
Dec 06 2007
next sibling parent BCS <ao pathlink.com> writes:
Reply to Brad,


 Sorry it's taking so long.  Rather embarassing.  Everything else about
 the conference went so smoothly.
 
 Later,
 Brad

If something I care about had to go wrong, it would be hard to find something that would be less disruptive
Dec 06 2007
prev sibling parent reply Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> writes:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, BCS wrote:

 Reply to Brad,
 
 
 Sorry it's taking so long.  Rather embarassing.  Everything else about
 the conference went so smoothly.
 
 Later,
 Brad

If something I care about had to go wrong, it would be hard to find something that would be less disruptive

Except for those that couldn't or didn't attend. For them, the videos are the only way to get to the real meat of what was talked about. The slides are just a hint. And no, I'm not withholding the videos as an incentive to get more people to attend next year. :) Later, Brad
Dec 06 2007
next sibling parent reply BCS <ao pathlink.com> writes:
Reply to Brad,

 *next year*.

8-) ??? Oh. Oh. When, where, who?!?!? Please tell me it a bit earlier (I had to cut class to make it last time).
Dec 06 2007
next sibling parent reply Clay Smith <clayasaurus gmail.com> writes:
Brad Roberts wrote:
 On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, BCS wrote:
 
 Reply to Brad,

 *next year*.

Oh. Oh. When, where, who?!?!? Please tell me it a bit earlier (I had to cut class to make it last time).

No details, but assume same time, same place... one year later (give or take a few weeks.. shout now if you are passionate about any particular dates -- preferably via private email). I've not really put any thought into it other than that I'm willing to do it all again. Later, Brad

For dates, probably a week earlier than this past year, as my classes began about two days after the D conf. ~ Clay
Dec 06 2007
parent "Jarrett Billingsley" <kb3ctd2 yahoo.com> writes:
"Clay Smith" <clayasaurus gmail.com> wrote in message 
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 Brad Roberts wrote:
 On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, BCS wrote:

 Reply to Brad,

 *next year*.

Oh. Oh. When, where, who?!?!? Please tell me it a bit earlier (I had to cut class to make it last time).

No details, but assume same time, same place... one year later (give or take a few weeks.. shout now if you are passionate about any particular dates -- preferably via private email). I've not really put any thought into it other than that I'm willing to do it all again. Later, Brad

For dates, probably a week earlier than this past year, as my classes began about two days after the D conf. ~ Clay

Same here. Mid-August would be *perfect*.
Dec 06 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> writes:
Alexander Panek wrote:
 On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 15:00:23 -0800
 Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> wrote:
 
 No details, but assume same time, same place... one year later (give
 or take a few weeks.. shout now if you are passionate about any
 particular dates -- preferably via private email).  I've not really
 put any thought into it other than that I'm willing to do it all
 again.

I had hoped the conference would take place in Europe in 2008. :(

Yeh, what gives?! I was hoping it would take place in Japan! --bb
Dec 10 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> writes:
Alexander Panek wrote:
 On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 15:00:23 -0800
 Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> wrote:
 
 No details, but assume same time, same place... one year later (give
 or take a few weeks.. shout now if you are passionate about any
 particular dates -- preferably via private email).  I've not really
 put any thought into it other than that I'm willing to do it all
 again.

I had hoped the conference would take place in Europe in 2008. :(

To be a little less facetious, Brad's going to organize it again and Brad lives in Seattle, and his employer in Seattle graciously donates the facilities for the gathering. Also Walter and Andrei are both in Seattle too. Thus it is in Seattle again. I'm sure there would be nothing but applause if someone volunteered to organize a Euro D conference in 2008 also. You may even be able to convince Walter to pay his own way there, but if you're going to do it the courteous thing would be to pay for his plane fare and accommodations, perhaps funded by charging a registration fee. --bb
Dec 10 2007
next sibling parent reply Christopher Wright <dhasenan gmail.com> writes:
Alexander Panek wrote:
 On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:23:29 +0900
 Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> wrote:
 
 To be a little less facetious, Brad's going to organize it again and 
 Brad lives in Seattle, and his employer in Seattle graciously donates 
 the facilities for the gathering.  Also Walter and Andrei are both in 
 Seattle too.  Thus it is in Seattle again.

No offense intended, but this is a rather deficient argument. Even though I appreciate that it is being organized, I don't see a point in excluding a big part of the community by holding it in the US again. It's just not affordable to go to the US for most of us. I suppose the same applies to your situation.

It's a rather good argument: the people who absolutely must attend are all in Seattle, and there are free facilities there. If nobody else volunteers a facility and travel expenses for at least Walter, then they won't have a convention in their country. Renting a facility to hold about a hundred to a hundred fifty people for three days... you'd probably spend a few thousand dollars or euros for that. (The Washington Convention Center in Washington DC, to take a Leftpondian example, would cost about US$1400 for the space, and probably a few hundred more for AV equipment.) Flying in Walter only adds a few hundred, though. Still, you'd have to charge attendees, probably in the range of $30 if you're not serving food, more like $40 or $50 if you're serving food. Charging money cuts into attendance. Of course, there's the question of how many people would attend, if the convention were in Europe or Japan. You'd get more Leftpondians if it were in the US, of course, and Leftpondians probably make up a plurality of the people here. Moreover, holding it in Amazon means you get developers from a major organization wandering in. That's a decent advantage.
Dec 10 2007
parent reply Jascha Wetzel <firstname mainia.de> writes:
Christopher Wright wrote:
 Of course, there's the question of how many people would attend, if the 
 convention were in Europe or Japan. You'd get more Leftpondians if it 
 were in the US, of course, and Leftpondians probably make up a plurality 
 of the people here.

(i don't want to argue for either side of the planet. i'd be happy not to have to travel far, but seattle is probably better than most other locations.) i just wanted to throw in the geographic distribution graph of ddbg website visitors. not that it's representative in any way, but it came to mind when thinking about where D users tend to hide: http://www3.clustrmaps.com/counter/maps.php?url=http://ddbg.mainia.de
Dec 10 2007
next sibling parent reply Christopher Wright <dhasenan gmail.com> writes:
Jascha Wetzel wrote:
 Christopher Wright wrote:
 Of course, there's the question of how many people would attend, if 
 the convention were in Europe or Japan. You'd get more Leftpondians if 
 it were in the US, of course, and Leftpondians probably make up a 
 plurality of the people here.

(i don't want to argue for either side of the planet. i'd be happy not to have to travel far, but seattle is probably better than most other locations.) i just wanted to throw in the geographic distribution graph of ddbg website visitors. not that it's representative in any way, but it came to mind when thinking about where D users tend to hide: http://www3.clustrmaps.com/counter/maps.php?url=http://ddbg.mainia.de

Okay, how about a nice, central location like Yemen or Qatar?
Dec 10 2007
parent reply "Jarrett Billingsley" <kb3ctd2 yahoo.com> writes:
"Christopher Wright" <dhasenan gmail.com> wrote in message 
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 Jascha Wetzel wrote:
 Christopher Wright wrote:
 Of course, there's the question of how many people would attend, if the 
 convention were in Europe or Japan. You'd get more Leftpondians if it 
 were in the US, of course, and Leftpondians probably make up a plurality 
 of the people here.

(i don't want to argue for either side of the planet. i'd be happy not to have to travel far, but seattle is probably better than most other locations.) i just wanted to throw in the geographic distribution graph of ddbg website visitors. not that it's representative in any way, but it came to mind when thinking about where D users tend to hide: http://www3.clustrmaps.com/counter/maps.php?url=http://ddbg.mainia.de

Okay, how about a nice, central location like Yemen or Qatar?

How about the middle of the Atlantic ocean? I think that splits the difference between the population centers in Europe and North America. The Virgin Islands or the Canaries! Hell yes!
Dec 10 2007
parent Robert Fraser <fraserofthenight gmail.com> writes:
Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
 The Virgin Islands or the Canaries!  Hell yes! 

I could go for that.
Dec 10 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> writes:
Jascha Wetzel wrote:
 Christopher Wright wrote:
 Of course, there's the question of how many people would attend, if 
 the convention were in Europe or Japan. You'd get more Leftpondians if 
 it were in the US, of course, and Leftpondians probably make up a 
 plurality of the people here.

(i don't want to argue for either side of the planet. i'd be happy not to have to travel far, but seattle is probably better than most other locations.) i just wanted to throw in the geographic distribution graph of ddbg website visitors. not that it's representative in any way, but it came to mind when thinking about where D users tend to hide: http://www3.clustrmaps.com/counter/maps.php?url=http://ddbg.mainia.de

Interesting. It looks like you and me have the biggest dots. :-) --bb [by which I mean the two biggest dots seem to be over Germany and Tokyo, if that wasn't clear]
Dec 10 2007
prev sibling parent reply "Bruce Adams" <tortoise_74 yeah.who.co.uk> writes:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:54:48 -0000, Jascha Wetzel <firstname mainia.de> =
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To my untrained eye I would place the mean location somewhere in Iraqist= an. Thanks but no thanks :)
Dec 10 2007
parent Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> writes:
Bruce Adams wrote:
 On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:54:48 -0000, Jascha Wetzel <firstname mainia.de> 
 wrote:
 
 Christopher Wright wrote:
 Of course, there's the question of how many people would attend, if 
 the convention were in Europe or Japan. You'd get more Leftpondians 
 if it were in the US, of course, and Leftpondians probably make up a 
 plurality of the people here.

(i don't want to argue for either side of the planet. i'd be happy not to have to travel far, but seattle is probably better than most other locations.) i just wanted to throw in the geographic distribution graph of ddbg website visitors. not that it's representative in any way, but it came to mind when thinking about where D users tend to hide: http://www3.clustrmaps.com/counter/maps.php?url=http://ddbg.mainia.de

To my untrained eye I would place the mean location somewhere in Iraqistan. Thanks but no thanks :)

I would place the mean location somewhere more like 6000 km underground. Again, thanks but no thanks. :-) --bb
Dec 10 2007
prev sibling parent Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> writes:
Alexander Panek wrote:
 On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:23:29 +0900
 Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> wrote:
 
 To be a little less facetious, Brad's going to organize it again and 
 Brad lives in Seattle, and his employer in Seattle graciously donates 
 the facilities for the gathering.  Also Walter and Andrei are both in 
 Seattle too.  Thus it is in Seattle again.

No offense intended, but this is a rather deficient argument. Even though I appreciate that it is being organized, I don't see a point in excluding a big part of the community by holding it in the US again. It's just not affordable to go to the US for most of us. I suppose the same applies to your situation.

It may be a weak argument, but that's the way it is. I'm just the volunteer messenger boy, telling you so that Brad doesn't have to. I'm just basically repeating the same thing that was in the 2007 conference FAQ.
 I'm sure there would be nothing but applause if someone volunteered
 to organize a Euro D conference in 2008 also.  You may even be able
 to convince Walter to pay his own way there, but if you're going to
 do it the courteous thing would be to pay for his plane fare and 
 accommodations, perhaps funded by charging a registration fee.

IMHO, everyone should pay on his own if possible. Anything else is going to be a matter of communication between all participants. We could even have a pool of money for those who couldn't attend because they are students, or similar. Ad the other reply: is it cheaper to go to Europe or to USA from Japan?

West coast USA is cheaper, but it's generally over $1000 US to either destination. Money's not as big an issue for me as the time it takes to travel there and back. I can't really justify spending more than like a day or two total attending a conference about a programming language. Just traveling to the USA or Europe eats up about 2 days' time. That's why I was thinking about trying to put together some sort of gathering of D folks at SIGGRAPH in LA 2008 to maybe chat about D and computer graphics, because I'll be at SIGGRAPH anyway. --bb
Dec 10 2007
prev sibling parent Frank Benoit <keinfarbton googlemail.com> writes:
Brad Roberts schrieb:
 On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, BCS wrote:
 
 Reply to Brad,

 *next year*.

Oh. Oh. When, where, who?!?!? Please tell me it a bit earlier (I had to cut class to make it last time).

No details, but assume same time, same place... one year later (give or take a few weeks.. shout now if you are passionate about any particular dates -- preferably via private email). I've not really put any thought into it other than that I'm willing to do it all again. Later, Brad

Wow, thats really great news!
Dec 10 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> writes:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, BCS wrote:

 Reply to Brad,
 
 *next year*.

8-) ??? Oh. Oh. When, where, who?!?!? Please tell me it a bit earlier (I had to cut class to make it last time).

No details, but assume same time, same place... one year later (give or take a few weeks.. shout now if you are passionate about any particular dates -- preferably via private email). I've not really put any thought into it other than that I'm willing to do it all again. Later, Brad
Dec 06 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent Alexander Panek <alexander.panek brainsware.org> writes:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 15:00:23 -0800
Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> wrote:

 No details, but assume same time, same place... one year later (give
 or take a few weeks.. shout now if you are passionate about any
 particular dates -- preferably via private email).  I've not really
 put any thought into it other than that I'm willing to do it all
 again.

I had hoped the conference would take place in Europe in 2008. :( -- Alexander Panek <alexander.panek brainsware.org>
Dec 10 2007
prev sibling parent Alexander Panek <alexander.panek brainsware.org> writes:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:23:29 +0900
Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> wrote:

 To be a little less facetious, Brad's going to organize it again and 
 Brad lives in Seattle, and his employer in Seattle graciously donates 
 the facilities for the gathering.  Also Walter and Andrei are both in 
 Seattle too.  Thus it is in Seattle again.

No offense intended, but this is a rather deficient argument. Even though I appreciate that it is being organized, I don't see a point in excluding a big part of the community by holding it in the US again. It's just not affordable to go to the US for most of us. I suppose the same applies to your situation.
 I'm sure there would be nothing but applause if someone volunteered
 to organize a Euro D conference in 2008 also.  You may even be able
 to convince Walter to pay his own way there, but if you're going to
 do it the courteous thing would be to pay for his plane fare and 
 accommodations, perhaps funded by charging a registration fee.

IMHO, everyone should pay on his own if possible. Anything else is going to be a matter of communication between all participants. We could even have a pool of money for those who couldn't attend because they are students, or similar. Ad the other reply: is it cheaper to go to Europe or to USA from Japan? -- Alexander Panek <alexander.panek brainsware.org>
Dec 10 2007