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reply Robert Fraser <fraserofthenight gmail.com> writes:
Just had a thought: this year I'm going to be applying to SoC, and it 
would be a lot more fun to be rejected from a D project than another 
boring Eclipse project. It would bring better exposure and help get some 
much-needed help in getting interesting D projects off the ground. I'm 
not sure what th mentoring process or application looks like for a 
mentoring organization, but it's a thought.
Jan 25 2008
parent reply Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> writes:
Robert Fraser wrote:
 Just had a thought: this year I'm going to be applying to SoC, and it 
 would be a lot more fun to be rejected from a D project than another 
 boring Eclipse project. It would bring better exposure and help get some 
 much-needed help in getting interesting D projects off the ground. I'm 
 not sure what th mentoring process or application looks like for a 
 mentoring organization, but it's a thought.

Just read this 10 minutes ago: http://www.dsource.org/projects/tango/wiki/IdeasAndEnhancements """ Tango applied as a mentoring organization for the 2007 season, although without being accepted. Some GSoC ideas that were proposed. """ Worth a shot again. I hope they try once more. --bb
Jan 25 2008
next sibling parent reply Lars Ivar Igesund <larsivar igesund.net> writes:
Bill Baxter wrote:

 Robert Fraser wrote:
 Just had a thought: this year I'm going to be applying to SoC, and it
 would be a lot more fun to be rejected from a D project than another
 boring Eclipse project. It would bring better exposure and help get some
 much-needed help in getting interesting D projects off the ground. I'm
 not sure what th mentoring process or application looks like for a
 mentoring organization, but it's a thought.

Just read this 10 minutes ago: http://www.dsource.org/projects/tango/wiki/IdeasAndEnhancements """ Tango applied as a mentoring organization for the 2007 season, although without being accepted. Some GSoC ideas that were proposed. """ Worth a shot again. I hope they try once more. --bb

We certainly will, and hopefully the book will help us gain the credibility I think is needed. Also back then, Tango was a very new project in the public space, by now we have a considerable list of users and D has gained further recognition. -- Lars Ivar Igesund blog at http://larsivi.net DSource, #d.tango & #D: larsivi Dancing the Tango
Jan 26 2008
parent reply Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> writes:
Lars Ivar Igesund wrote:
 We certainly will, and hopefully the book will help us gain the credibility
 I think is needed. Also back then, Tango was a very new project in the
 public space, by now we have a considerable list of users and D has gained
 further recognition.

Being persistent also moves us from "who the heck are you guys?" to "I've heard about D!"
Jan 26 2008
parent reply janderson <askme me.com> writes:
Walter Bright wrote:
 Lars Ivar Igesund wrote:
 We certainly will, and hopefully the book will help us gain the 
 credibility
 I think is needed. Also back then, Tango was a very new project in the
 public space, by now we have a considerable list of users and D has 
 gained
 further recognition.

Being persistent also moves us from "who the heck are you guys?" to "I've heard about D!"

I have to say, I've been on the interview grind over the last week. Everyone I talked to (except 1) had heard about D and seemed to be interested in it but never used it or looked much into it. I talked to about 30 engineers. I found a job BTW :) -Joel
Jan 26 2008
next sibling parent reply Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> writes:
naryl wrote:
 On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 22:00:07 +0300, janderson <askme me.com> wrote:
 
 Walter Bright wrote:
 Lars Ivar Igesund wrote:
 We certainly will, and hopefully the book will help us gain the 
 credibility
 I think is needed. Also back then, Tango was a very new project in the
 public space, by now we have a considerable list of users and D has 
 gained
 further recognition.

"I've heard about D!"

I have to say, I've been on the interview grind over the last week. Everyone I talked to (except 1) had heard about D and seemed to be interested in it but never used it or looked much into it. I talked to about 30 engineers. I found a job BTW :) -Joel

Heh. When I was applying for a job (three months ago) nobody heard about D and when I told them, nobody was interesed. Yes, they were Software Engineers. They just didn't want to hear about anything other than Java.

I suspect from previous comments that janderson was probably looking for a job in the game industry, where the average age is probably high-twenties, and where they really care about speed. So the difference in your experiences is not too surprising. --bb
Jan 26 2008
parent janderson <askme me.com> writes:
Bill Baxter wrote:
 naryl wrote:
 On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 22:00:07 +0300, janderson <askme me.com> wrote:

 Walter Bright wrote:
 Lars Ivar Igesund wrote:
 We certainly will, and hopefully the book will help us gain the 
 credibility
 I think is needed. Also back then, Tango was a very new project in the
 public space, by now we have a considerable list of users and D has 
 gained
 further recognition.

to "I've heard about D!"

I have to say, I've been on the interview grind over the last week. Everyone I talked to (except 1) had heard about D and seemed to be interested in it but never used it or looked much into it. I talked to about 30 engineers. I found a job BTW :) -Joel

Heh. When I was applying for a job (three months ago) nobody heard about D and when I told them, nobody was interesed. Yes, they were Software Engineers. They just didn't want to hear about anything other than Java.

I suspect from previous comments that janderson was probably looking for a job in the game industry, where the average age is probably high-twenties, and where they really care about speed. So the difference in your experiences is not too surprising. --bb

That and I also think any game engineer worth his salt wants to keep on the edge of the latest technology and techniques. New API's and papers come out all the time and we can't be left behind. -Joel
Jan 26 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> writes:
janderson wrote:
 I have to say, I've been on the interview grind over the last week. 
 Everyone I talked to (except 1) had heard about D and seemed to be 
 interested in it but never used it or looked much into it.  I talked to 
 about 30 engineers.
 
 I found a job BTW :)

That's great news!
Jan 26 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> writes:
janderson wrote:
 Walter Bright wrote:
 Lars Ivar Igesund wrote:
 We certainly will, and hopefully the book will help us gain the 
 credibility
 I think is needed. Also back then, Tango was a very new project in the
 public space, by now we have a considerable list of users and D has 
 gained
 further recognition.

Being persistent also moves us from "who the heck are you guys?" to "I've heard about D!"

I have to say, I've been on the interview grind over the last week. Everyone I talked to (except 1) had heard about D and seemed to be interested in it but never used it or looked much into it. I talked to about 30 engineers. I found a job BTW :)

Where you can use D??? :-) [congrats even if not, though!] --bb
Jan 26 2008
parent reply janderson <askme me.com> writes:
Bill Baxter wrote:
 janderson wrote:
 Walter Bright wrote:
 Lars Ivar Igesund wrote:
 We certainly will, and hopefully the book will help us gain the 
 credibility
 I think is needed. Also back then, Tango was a very new project in the
 public space, by now we have a considerable list of users and D has 
 gained
 further recognition.

Being persistent also moves us from "who the heck are you guys?" to "I've heard about D!"

I have to say, I've been on the interview grind over the last week. Everyone I talked to (except 1) had heard about D and seemed to be interested in it but never used it or looked much into it. I talked to about 30 engineers. I found a job BTW :)

Where you can use D??? :-) [congrats even if not, though!] --bb

Sadly no.
Jan 26 2008
parent reply Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> writes:
janderson wrote:
 Bill Baxter wrote:
 janderson wrote:
 Walter Bright wrote:
 Lars Ivar Igesund wrote:
 We certainly will, and hopefully the book will help us gain the 
 credibility
 I think is needed. Also back then, Tango was a very new project in the
 public space, by now we have a considerable list of users and D has 
 gained
 further recognition.

Being persistent also moves us from "who the heck are you guys?" to "I've heard about D!"

I have to say, I've been on the interview grind over the last week. Everyone I talked to (except 1) had heard about D and seemed to be interested in it but never used it or looked much into it. I talked to about 30 engineers. I found a job BTW :)

Where you can use D??? :-) [congrats even if not, though!] --bb

Sadly no.

Ok. Well you'll just have to work it in the back door like everyone else, then. :-) --bb
Jan 26 2008
next sibling parent janderson <askme me.com> writes:
 I found a job BTW :)

Where you can use D??? :-) [congrats even if not, though!] --bb

Sadly no.

Ok. Well you'll just have to work it in the back door like everyone else, then. :-) --bb

LOL, I slipped over hit the keyboard and accidentally converted everything to D :)
Jan 26 2008
prev sibling parent reply Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> writes:
Bill Baxter wrote:
 Ok.  Well you'll just have to work it in the back door like everyone 
 else, then.  :-)

Often people are able to use it for utility work, even if management won't allow it for the main product.
Jan 26 2008
parent "Unknown W. Brackets" <unknown simplemachines.org> writes:
This is true in my case, which has resulted in us test-running rewriting 
a many-problems Java server we have in D via a contractor.  We'll see 
how that ends up.

-[Unknown]


Walter Bright wrote:
 Bill Baxter wrote:
 Ok.  Well you'll just have to work it in the back door like everyone 
 else, then.  :-)

Often people are able to use it for utility work, even if management won't allow it for the main product.

Jan 27 2008
prev sibling parent janderson <askme me.com> writes:
janderson wrote:
 Walter Bright wrote:
 Lars Ivar Igesund wrote:
 We certainly will, and hopefully the book will help us gain the 
 credibility
 I think is needed. Also back then, Tango was a very new project in the
 public space, by now we have a considerable list of users and D has 
 gained
 further recognition.

Being persistent also moves us from "who the heck are you guys?" to "I've heard about D!"

I have to say, I've been on the interview grind over the last week. Everyone I talked to (except 1) had heard about D and seemed to be interested in it but never used it or looked much into it. I talked to about 30 engineers. I found a job BTW :) -Joel

The job is in LA BTW.
Jan 26 2008
prev sibling parent naryl <cy ngs.ru> writes:
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 22:00:07 +0300, janderson <askme me.com> wrote:

 Walter Bright wrote:
 Lars Ivar Igesund wrote:
 We certainly will, and hopefully the book will help us gain the  
 credibility
 I think is needed. Also back then, Tango was a very new project in the
 public space, by now we have a considerable list of users and D has  
 gained
 further recognition.

"I've heard about D!"

I have to say, I've been on the interview grind over the last week. Everyone I talked to (except 1) had heard about D and seemed to be interested in it but never used it or looked much into it. I talked to about 30 engineers. I found a job BTW :) -Joel

Heh. When I was applying for a job (three months ago) nobody heard about D and when I told them, nobody was interesed. Yes, they were Software Engineers. They just didn't want to hear about anything other than Java.
Jan 26 2008