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digitalmars.D - Advertising "D Cookbook" on http://dlang.org or http://wiki.dlang.org/Books

reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
Hello,


Walter and I got asked by Packt Publishing about advertising Adam D. 
Ruppe's "D Cookbook" on http://dlang.org/ or 
http://wiki.dlang.org/Books. They'd be paying 2-5% of the royalties 
depending on the ads' prominence. I estimate that would be low in 
absolute numbers, and would probably go toward defraying our hosting costs.

I wanted to ask the community how they'd feel about this. The ads would 
only advertise Adam's book and we'd have leeway with format and size.


Thanks,

Andrei
May 06 2014
next sibling parent "Piotrek" <p nonexistent.pl> writes:
Hi,

I see no problem with advertising this book if the publisher's 
bussness isn't shady and the ad is only a pure (let's keep it the 
D way) link - I mean no eveil spying tech behind that or 
something similar.

At first look this seems to be a great work and deserves 
advertising.

I hope the book will join my TDPL copy as soon as it's easy to 
get it from Poland.

Piotrek
May 06 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent "w0rp" <devw0rp gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 6 May 2014 at 16:13:34 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 Hello,


 Walter and I got asked by Packt Publishing about advertising 
 Adam D. Ruppe's "D Cookbook" on http://dlang.org/ or 
 http://wiki.dlang.org/Books. They'd be paying 2-5% of the 
 royalties depending on the ads' prominence. I estimate that 
 would be low in absolute numbers, and would probably go toward 
 defraying our hosting costs.

 I wanted to ask the community how they'd feel about this. The 
 ads would only advertise Adam's book and we'd have leeway with 
 format and size.


 Thanks,

 Andrei

I see nothing wrong with this as long as the ad doesn't spy on people or link to anything objectionable. It's appropriate advertising.
May 06 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent Dejan Lekic <dejan.lekic gmail.com> writes:
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 Hello,
 
 
 Walter and I got asked by Packt Publishing about advertising Adam D.
 Ruppe's "D Cookbook" on http://dlang.org/ or
 http://wiki.dlang.org/Books. They'd be paying 2-5% of the royalties
 depending on the ads' prominence. I estimate that would be low in
 absolute numbers, and would probably go toward defraying our hosting
 costs.
 
 I wanted to ask the community how they'd feel about this. The ads would
 only advertise Adam's book and we'd have leeway with format and size.
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Andrei

The point of dlang.org is (among other things), promoting D . Education is crucial for the development of the D community, therefore I would even encourage promoting the upcoming Adam's book! :) -- http://dejan.lekic.org
May 06 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent "Dicebot" <public dicebot.lv> writes:
It will benefit everyone in D community one way or another.
May 06 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent Nick Sabalausky <SeeWebsiteToContactMe semitwist.com> writes:
On 5/6/2014 12:13 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 I wanted to ask the community how they'd feel about this. The ads would
 only advertise Adam's book and we'd have leeway with format and size.

As long as there's no sound/animation/malware, then it sounds like a great idea. "Non-commercial OSS" doesn't have to mean "no revenue" or "no self-promotion".
May 06 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent =?UTF-8?B?QWxpIMOHZWhyZWxp?= <acehreli yahoo.com> writes:
On 05/06/2014 09:13 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 Walter and I got asked by Packt Publishing about advertising Adam D.
 Ruppe's "D Cookbook" on http://dlang.org/ or
 http://wiki.dlang.org/Books. They'd be paying 2-5% of the royalties
 depending on the ads' prominence. I estimate that would be low in
 absolute numbers, and would probably go toward defraying our hosting 

It is easy for someone who does not pay for the hosting to say this but since dlang (and wiki) will have a link to the publisher's site anyway, unless advertising brings sizable money, I say let's not do it. Ali
May 06 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent Andrej Mitrovic via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
On 5/6/14, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
<digitalmars-d puremagic.com> wrote:
 I wanted to ask the community how they'd feel about this.

Go for it. It's great to see more D books.
May 06 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent "Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:
On Tue, 06 May 2014 12:13:35 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu  
<SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote:

 Hello,


 Walter and I got asked by Packt Publishing about advertising Adam D.  
 Ruppe's "D Cookbook" on http://dlang.org/ or  
 http://wiki.dlang.org/Books. They'd be paying 2-5% of the royalties  
 depending on the ads' prominence. I estimate that would be low in  
 absolute numbers, and would probably go toward defraying our hosting  
 costs.

 I wanted to ask the community how they'd feel about this. The ads would  
 only advertise Adam's book and we'd have leeway with format and size.

I have no problem with it. However, I would approach them to ask if they'd rather have it be a sponsored link. Right now, the "Book" link goes to TDPL on amazon, I could envision another link there. -Steve
May 06 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Adam D. Ruppe" <destructionator gmail.com> writes:
I was gonna ask you all to put it on the community->links page 
anyway, so if they're willing to cut you in a piece of the 
action, so much the better.

Though I agree that if it is flashy or noisy, say no. I was just 
thinking text link and I'd be ok with an image link too, but any 
javascript or flash stuff, forget that.
May 06 2014
parent =?UTF-8?B?QWxpIMOHZWhyZWxp?= <acehreli yahoo.com> writes:
On 05/06/2014 04:07 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
 On Tuesday, 6 May 2014 at 22:53:21 UTC, Piotrek wrote:
 IMO, image is a must. I hate text ads.

I was thinking just a link like we have here now: http://digitalmars.com/d/dlinks.html but whatever works

I think that works. The publisher will get their hits through those links anyway. I don't think a proper ad is necessary unless it brings lots of money. (I hope it does but I don't think so.) Ali
May 06 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent "Piotrek" <p nonexistent.pl> writes:
On Tuesday, 6 May 2014 at 21:33:54 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:

 Though I agree that if it is flashy or noisy, say no. I was 
 just thinking text link and I'd be ok with an image link too, 
 but any javascript or flash stuff, forget that.

IMO, image is a must. I hate text ads. Personally, I immediately associate it with page rank gaming or similar stuff. Piotrek
May 06 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent "Adam D. Ruppe" <destructionator gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 6 May 2014 at 22:53:21 UTC, Piotrek wrote:
 IMO, image is a must. I hate text ads.

I was thinking just a link like we have here now: http://digitalmars.com/d/dlinks.html but whatever works
May 06 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent Rikki Cattermole <alphaglosined gmail.com> writes:
On 7/05/2014 4:13 a.m., Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 Hello,


 Walter and I got asked by Packt Publishing about advertising Adam D.
 Ruppe's "D Cookbook" on http://dlang.org/ or
 http://wiki.dlang.org/Books. They'd be paying 2-5% of the royalties
 depending on the ads' prominence. I estimate that would be low in
 absolute numbers, and would probably go toward defraying our hosting costs.

 I wanted to ask the community how they'd feel about this. The ads would
 only advertise Adam's book and we'd have leeway with format and size.


 Thanks,

 Andrei

I'm all for it! And to reiterate image only no flashy noisy thing or evil tracking. Would be great to have this more as a general offering for any book that dealt with D however after all, we want to promote D as having a sizeable community support right? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
May 06 2014
prev sibling parent reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
Looks like there's consensus, time to choose the creative. Here are a 
few examples:

- http://jquery.com/ (bottom)
- http://jqueryui.com/ (bottom)
- http://www.yiiframework.com/
- http://primefaces.org/
- https://www.freeswitch.org/

Please chime in!

Andrei
May 07 2014
next sibling parent =?UTF-8?B?IlRow6lv?= Bueno" <munrek gmx.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 7 May 2014 at 15:57:10 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
 Looks like there's consensus, time to choose the creative. Here 
 are a few examples:

 - http://jquery.com/ (bottom)
 - http://jqueryui.com/ (bottom)
 - http://www.yiiframework.com/
 - http://primefaces.org/
 - https://www.freeswitch.org/

 Please chime in!

 Andrei

I like the bottom ones ( jquery things ) : they do not disturb the content of the page, and they are pretty clear.
May 07 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent "Jesse Phillips" <Jesse.K.Phillips+D gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 7 May 2014 at 15:57:10 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:
 Looks like there's consensus, time to choose the creative. Here 
 are a few examples:

 - http://jquery.com/ (bottom)
 - http://jqueryui.com/ (bottom)
 - http://www.yiiframework.com/
 - http://primefaces.org/
 - https://www.freeswitch.org/

 Please chime in!

 Andrei

I'd say the bottom if we go on the dlang, and the others will do if we put it on the wiki.
May 07 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent "Piotrek" <p nonexistent.pl> writes:
On Wednesday, 7 May 2014 at 15:57:10 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:
 Looks like there's consensus, time to choose the creative. Here 
 are a few examples:

 - http://jquery.com/ (bottom)
 - http://jqueryui.com/ (bottom)
 - http://www.yiiframework.com/
 - http://primefaces.org/
 - https://www.freeswitch.org/

 Please chime in!

 Andrei

Hi, I would put it under the tweets or even over them. I think the bottom is somehow counter-advertising. In my view, natural position for recommended books (or other products) are on the side panel. Piotrek
May 07 2014
prev sibling parent "Andre Kostur" <andre kostur.net> writes:
On Wednesday, 7 May 2014 at 18:27:46 UTC, Piotrek wrote:
 I would put it under the tweets or even over them. I think the 
 bottom is somehow counter-advertising. In my view, natural 
 position for recommended books (or other products) are on the 
 side panel.

I'm with you... I think something like freeswitch's display under the tweets.
May 07 2014