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reply "Sandeep Datta" <datta.sandeep gmail.com> writes:
Hi Guys,

I just wanted to say I am pretty impressed with the revamped D 
forums. TBH I tried to join in on the conversion many times 
before the change but the ancient NNTP based approach was just 
not palatable enough. But needless to say we have come a long way 
from that.

Having said that I have a question for the veterans...have you at 
any point considered using a publicly hosted discussion forum 
(like reddit)?

I miss the ability to edit and monitor my posts (without spamming 
my inbox). Also the upvote and downvote buttons can come in handy 
sometimes too (for example if you did not like this post you 
could downvote it to oblivion).

Regards,
Sandeep Datta.
Mar 04 2012
next sibling parent reply "so" <so so.so> writes:
Hello!

On Sunday, 4 March 2012 at 08:21:13 UTC, Sandeep Datta wrote:

 Also the upvote and downvote buttons can come in handy 
 sometimes too (for example if you did not like this post you 
 could downvote it to oblivion).

All sounds fine except this, i hate this kind of stuff. They open doors for all kind of abuses, popularity contests, factions in community and similar distasteful things.
Mar 04 2012
parent "Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> writes:
"Mars" <- -.-> wrote in message news:ywpzampglhwcpimzeljb forum.dlang.org...
For people who never used newsgroups etc, it feels extremely awkward at 
first. And if you're used to normal, modern board softwares, this is like a 
small down grade. You get used to it of course, but I'm sure this drove 
people away in the past.

I not onyl got used to it (NNTP), but I've cone to prefer it. (FWIW, YMMV, OMGBBQWTF)
Mar 04 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent James Miller <james aatch.net> writes:
On 4 March 2012 22:20, so <so so.so> wrote:
 Hello!


 On Sunday, 4 March 2012 at 08:21:13 UTC, Sandeep Datta wrote:

 Also the upvote and downvote buttons can come in handy sometimes too (for
 example if you did not like this post you could downvote it to oblivion).

All sounds fine except this, i hate this kind of stuff. They open doors for all kind of abuses, popularity contests, factions in community and similar distasteful things.

Email Filters! If you are not using an email client that allows you to filter mailing list emails out of your inbox and into folders, you need to be using a better email client... -- James Miller
Mar 04 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent "Mars" <- -.-> writes:
On Sunday, 4 March 2012 at 09:45:44 UTC, James Miller wrote:
 On 4 March 2012 22:20, so <so so.so> wrote:
 Hello!


 On Sunday, 4 March 2012 at 08:21:13 UTC, Sandeep Datta wrote:

 Also the upvote and downvote buttons can come in handy 
 sometimes too (for
 example if you did not like this post you could downvote it 
 to oblivion).

All sounds fine except this, i hate this kind of stuff. They open doors for all kind of abuses, popularity contests, factions in community and similar distasteful things.

Email Filters! If you are not using an email client that allows you to filter mailing list emails out of your inbox and into folders, you need to be using a better email client... -- James Miller

Or maybe we just need a real forum... I was actually thinking about posting something similar several times already, especially before this new official front end. For people who never used newsgroups etc, it feels extremely awkward at first. And if you're used to normal, modern board softwares, this is like a small down grade. You get used to it of course, but I'm sure this drove people away in the past. Although it's much better now. Mars
Mar 04 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent "H. S. Teoh" <hsteoh quickfur.ath.cx> writes:
On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 11:07:43AM +0100, Mars wrote:
[[...]
 Or maybe we just need a real forum... I was actually thinking about
 posting something similar several times already, especially before
 this new official front end. For people who never used newsgroups
 etc, it feels extremely awkward at first. And if you're used to
 normal, modern board softwares, this is like a small down grade. You
 get used to it of course, but I'm sure this drove people away in the
 past.
 Although it's much better now.

I personally just prefer email. I use a threading mailer, and it allows me to sort through threads, keep those I'm interested in, prune those I'm not interested in, etc., *much* better than any forum software I've ever seen. The thing about discussions is that they tend to bifurcate easily, something that current forum software just can't handle in a nice way without breaking the branching structure somehow. Plus, with email I get to use text-only, which is a big plus for me because it focuses on the meat of the discussion instead of distracting with pretty graphics. And I can stay away from that resource hog called the browser for yet one more thing. But that's just me... most people don't agree with that. :-) T -- I think the conspiracy theorists are out to get us...
Mar 04 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent Gour <gour atmarama.net> writes:
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On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 09:04:33 -0800
"H. S. Teoh" <hsteoh quickfur.ath.cx> wrote:

 But that's just me... most people don't agree with that. :-)

Do they agree with you or not, the fact is that forum software cannot approach functionality of email/nntp. Sincerely, Gour --=20 There are principles to regulate attachment and aversion pertaining to=20 the senses and their objects. One should not come under the control of=20 such attachment and aversion, because they are stumbling blocks on the=20 path of self-realization. http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810
Mar 05 2012
prev sibling parent Dejan Lekic <dejan.lekic gmail.com> writes:
Sandeep Datta wrote:

 Hi Guys,
 
 I just wanted to say I am pretty impressed with the revamped D
 forums. TBH I tried to join in on the conversion many times
 before the change but the ancient NNTP based approach was just
 not palatable enough. But needless to say we have come a long way
 from that.
 
 Having said that I have a question for the veterans...have you at
 any point considered using a publicly hosted discussion forum
 (like reddit)?
 
 I miss the ability to edit and monitor my posts (without spamming
 my inbox). Also the upvote and downvote buttons can come in handy
 sometimes too (for example if you did not like this post you
 could downvote it to oblivion).
 
 Regards,
 Sandeep Datta.

Sandeep, FYI, it is still NNTP behind the forum. It is not an ancient protocol, it is still perfectly suitable for what it was made for... HTTP is still an "ancient" protocol, yet you still use it... We still use IRC and we like it. Etc... I guess your problem lies in the client. Yes, the old, web- based news client was awful. New one is amazing.
Mar 06 2012