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reply duff <duff garam.de> writes:
If I look at the list of people in the dlang organisation, 50 % 
haven't done anything in the that 2 monthes...

no review, no merge, no commit, nothing...
Nov 24 2015
next sibling parent reply duff <duff garam.de> writes:
On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 16:47:55 UTC, duff wrote:
 If I look at the list of people in the dlang organisation, 50 % 
 haven't done anything in the that 2 monthes...

 no review, no merge, no commit, nothing...
If I look at the list of people in the dlang organisation, 50 % haven't done anything in the >>last<< 2 monthes... no review, no merge, no commit, nothing..
Nov 24 2015
parent reply duff <duff garam.de> writes:
On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 16:49:07 UTC, duff wrote:
 On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 16:47:55 UTC, duff wrote:
 If I look at the list of people in the dlang organisation, 50 
 % haven't done anything in the that 2 monthes...

 no review, no merge, no commit, nothing...
If I look at the list of people in the dlang organisation, 50 % haven't done anything in the >>last<< 2 monthes... no review, no merge, no commit, nothing..
Staline would say: it's time to clean up.
Nov 24 2015
next sibling parent Ilya Yaroshenko <ilyayaroshenko gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 16:51:58 UTC, duff wrote:
 On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 16:49:07 UTC, duff wrote:
 On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 16:47:55 UTC, duff wrote:
 If I look at the list of people in the dlang organisation, 50 
 % haven't done anything in the that 2 monthes...

 no review, no merge, no commit, nothing...
If I look at the list of people in the dlang organisation, 50 % haven't done anything in the >>last<< 2 monthes... no review, no merge, no commit, nothing..
Staline would say: it's time to clean up.
Stalin*. I suppose that you can try to offer this again after and if you become a member of D core team ;-)
Nov 24 2015
prev sibling parent reply duff <duff garam.de> writes:
On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 16:51:58 UTC, duff wrote:
 On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 16:49:07 UTC, duff wrote:
 On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 16:47:55 UTC, duff wrote:
 If I look at the list of people in the dlang organisation, 50 
 % haven't done anything in the that 2 monthes...

 no review, no merge, no commit, nothing...
If I look at the list of people in the dlang organisation, 50 % haven't done anything in the >>last<< 2 monthes... no review, no merge, no commit, nothing..
Staline would say: it's time to clean up.
https://github.com/shoo?tab=activity https://github.com/complexmath?tab=activity https://github.com/jordisayol?tab=activity https://github.com/donc?tab=activity https://github.com/repeatedly?tab=activity https://github.com/dsimcha?tab=activity etc... Among those, nobody takes the time to review and merge the simple fixes related to ddoc or things like that. Among those, nobody takes the time to read bugzilla and to fix the simple bugs whose fixes are constantly proposed by external people who gotta wait because among those people there is no activity.
Nov 24 2015
next sibling parent reply duff <duff garam.de> writes:
On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 17:10:09 UTC, duff wrote:
 On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 16:51:58 UTC, duff wrote:
 On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 16:49:07 UTC, duff wrote:
 On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 16:47:55 UTC, duff wrote:
 If I look at the list of people in the dlang organisation, 
 50 % haven't done anything in the that 2 monthes...

 no review, no merge, no commit, nothing...
If I look at the list of people in the dlang organisation, 50 % haven't done anything in the >>last<< 2 monthes... no review, no merge, no commit, nothing..
Staline would say: it's time to clean up.
https://github.com/shoo?tab=activity https://github.com/complexmath?tab=activity https://github.com/jordisayol?tab=activity https://github.com/donc?tab=activity https://github.com/repeatedly?tab=activity https://github.com/dsimcha?tab=activity etc... Among those, nobody takes the time to review and merge the simple fixes related to ddoc or things like that. Among those, nobody takes the time to read bugzilla and to fix the simple bugs whose fixes are constantly proposed by external people who gotta wait because among those people there is no activity.
If at least they would be able to find some regressions when a new release comes...but no. Idle people. Useless people.
Nov 24 2015
parent reply David DeWitt <dkdewitt gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 17:35:54 UTC, duff wrote:
 On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 17:10:09 UTC, duff wrote:
 On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 16:51:58 UTC, duff wrote:
 On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 16:49:07 UTC, duff wrote:

 Staline would say: it's time to clean up.
https://github.com/shoo?tab=activity https://github.com/complexmath?tab=activity https://github.com/jordisayol?tab=activity https://github.com/donc?tab=activity https://github.com/repeatedly?tab=activity https://github.com/dsimcha?tab=activity etc... Among those, nobody takes the time to review and merge the simple fixes related to ddoc or things like that. Among those, nobody takes the time to read bugzilla and to fix the simple bugs whose fixes are constantly proposed by external people who gotta wait because among those people there is no activity.
If at least they would be able to find some regressions when a new release comes...but no. Idle people. Useless people.
Some of those ppl have contributed greatly to D and probably still do behind the scenes so I doubt they deserve to be "removed" from the D organization and would even be considered for removal if anything more people need to get involved.
Nov 24 2015
parent reply duff <duff garam.de> writes:
On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 17:47:01 UTC, David DeWitt wrote:
 On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 17:35:54 UTC, duff wrote:
 On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 17:10:09 UTC, duff wrote:
 On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 16:51:58 UTC, duff wrote:
 On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 16:49:07 UTC, duff wrote:

 Staline would say: it's time to clean up.
https://github.com/shoo?tab=activity https://github.com/complexmath?tab=activity https://github.com/jordisayol?tab=activity https://github.com/donc?tab=activity https://github.com/repeatedly?tab=activity https://github.com/dsimcha?tab=activity etc... Among those, nobody takes the time to review and merge the simple fixes related to ddoc or things like that. Among those, nobody takes the time to read bugzilla and to fix the simple bugs whose fixes are constantly proposed by external people who gotta wait because among those people there is no activity.
If at least they would be able to find some regressions when a new release comes...but no. Idle people. Useless people.
Some of those ppl have contributed greatly to D and probably still do behind the scenes so I doubt they deserve to be "removed" from the D organization and would even be considered for removal if anything more people need to get involved.
I understand that J.Sayol has done a great job in the past, but except this work for the installer...I don't get why do you keep such people in your organisation. I mean that it appened to me to make some small things for "Him" or "Her"...but i'm not member of their companies...
Nov 24 2015
parent reply Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
On 24 November 2015 at 19:04, duff via Digitalmars-d <
digitalmars-d puremagic.com> wrote:

 On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 17:47:01 UTC, David DeWitt wrote:

 On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 17:35:54 UTC, duff wrote:

 On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 17:10:09 UTC, duff wrote:

 On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 16:51:58 UTC, duff wrote:

 On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 16:49:07 UTC, duff wrote:

 Staline would say: it's time to clean up.
https://github.com/shoo?tab=activity https://github.com/complexmath?tab=activity https://github.com/jordisayol?tab=activity https://github.com/donc?tab=activity https://github.com/repeatedly?tab=activity https://github.com/dsimcha?tab=activity etc... Among those, nobody takes the time to review and merge the simple fixes related to ddoc or things like that. Among those, nobody takes the time to read bugzilla and to fix the simple bugs whose fixes are constantly proposed by external people who gotta wait because among those people there is no activity.
If at least they would be able to find some regressions when a new release comes...but no. Idle people. Useless people.
Some of those ppl have contributed greatly to D and probably still do behind the scenes so I doubt they deserve to be "removed" from the D organization and would even be considered for removal if anything more people need to get involved.
I understand that J.Sayol has done a great job in the past, but except this work for the installer...I don't get why do you keep such people in your organisation. I mean that it appened to me to make some small things for "Him" or "Her"...but i'm not member of their companies...
If members wish to leave, they may request to do so. Ousting people is not an acceptable attitude towards any member in our community, long standing or not. I am aware of some of whom you've chosen to be vocal about have been around or contributing for 10 years, whilst others are active but do so under a work-related github account. All attended Dconf, most on a yearly basis, where were you?
Nov 25 2015
next sibling parent reply Jonathan M Davis <jmdavisProg gmx.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 25 November 2015 at 08:41:05 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:
 If members wish to leave, they may request to do so.  Ousting 
 people is not an acceptable attitude towards any member in our 
 community, long standing or not.
+infinity If we want anything, we want these folks to be contributing again, not to be ostracized. Being rude to them gains us nothing and potentially loses us a very valuable contributor permanently. They are _very_ welcome to actively contribute again whenever they are ready and willing to do so. We'd love for it to be contributing more often, but life often gets in the way, and even if any of them have decided to move on and never return, it's not like it hurts us to let them still have commit access. We want to encourage contributions, not ostracize people for not contributing on a regular basis. - Jonathan M Davis
Nov 25 2015
parent Andy Smith <andyrsmith googlemail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 25 November 2015 at 17:34:42 UTC, Jonathan M Davis 
wrote:
 On Wednesday, 25 November 2015 at 08:41:05 UTC, Iain Buclaw 
 wrote:
 [...]
+infinity If we want anything, we want these folks to be contributing again, not to be ostracized. Being rude to them gains us nothing and potentially loses us a very valuable contributor permanently. They are _very_ welcome to actively contribute again whenever they are ready and willing to do so. We'd love for it to be contributing more often, but life often gets in the way, and even if any of them have decided to move on and never return, it's not like it hurts us to let them still have commit access. We want to encourage contributions, not ostracize people for not contributing on a regular basis. - Jonathan M Davis
Well said :-)
Nov 25 2015
prev sibling parent reply lobo <swamplobo gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 25 November 2015 at 08:41:05 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:
 On 24 November 2015 at 19:04, duff via Digitalmars-d < 
 digitalmars-d puremagic.com> wrote:

[...]
If members wish to leave, they may request to do so. Ousting people is not an acceptable attitude towards any member in our community, long standing or not. I am aware of some of whom you've chosen to be vocal about have been around or contributing for 10 years, whilst others are active but do so under a work-related github account. All attended Dconf, most on a yearly basis, where were you?
don't feed the trolls :-)
Nov 25 2015
parent Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 11/25/2015 05:07 PM, lobo wrote:
 On Wednesday, 25 November 2015 at 08:41:05 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:
 On 24 November 2015 at 19:04, duff via Digitalmars-d <
 digitalmars-d puremagic.com> wrote:

 [...]
If members wish to leave, they may request to do so. Ousting people is not an acceptable attitude towards any member in our community, long standing or not. I am aware of some of whom you've chosen to be vocal about have been around or contributing for 10 years, whilst others are active but do so under a work-related github account. All attended Dconf, most on a yearly basis, where were you?
don't feed the trolls :-)
That's exactly right. No need to dignify such interventions with a response. -- Andrei
Nov 25 2015
prev sibling parent tcak <1ltkrs+3wyh1ow7kzn1k sharklasers.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 17:10:09 UTC, duff wrote:
 On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 16:51:58 UTC, duff wrote:
 On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 16:49:07 UTC, duff wrote:
 [...]
Staline would say: it's time to clean up.
https://github.com/shoo?tab=activity https://github.com/complexmath?tab=activity https://github.com/jordisayol?tab=activity https://github.com/donc?tab=activity https://github.com/repeatedly?tab=activity https://github.com/dsimcha?tab=activity etc... Among those, nobody takes the time to review and merge the simple fixes related to ddoc or things like that. Among those, nobody takes the time to read bugzilla and to fix the simple bugs whose fixes are constantly proposed by external people who gotta wait because among those people there is no activity.
Hey, those who don't have activity. Either work, or we will stop paying you.
Nov 24 2015
prev sibling parent reply Brad Anderson <eco gnuk.net> writes:
On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 16:47:55 UTC, duff wrote:
 If I look at the list of people in the dlang organisation, 50 % 
 haven't done anything in the that 2 monthes...

 no review, no merge, no commit, nothing...
Interest and contributions, even from core members, often comes in bursts. There is no harm in keeping idle contributors around.
Nov 24 2015
parent duff <duff garam.de> writes:
On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 17:45:26 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote:
 On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 16:47:55 UTC, duff wrote:
 If I look at the list of people in the dlang organisation, 50 
 % haven't done anything in the that 2 monthes...

 no review, no merge, no commit, nothing...
Interest and contributions, even from core members, often comes in bursts. There is no harm in keeping idle contributors around.
burst of interest for people who are constantly interested ? Who is in the right place ?
Nov 24 2015