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reply Tom <ihate spam.com> writes:
Hi everybody. Sorry about the noise but I wish to know about your 
opinions on the next.

 From time to time, I use MSN protocol for communicating because, at 
least here in Argentina, it's the most popular client for the common of 
Argentine guys and girls. Not that I consider myself one of them :P, but 
to be online with the most of my not-nerd friends, I have no choice 
other than use the protocol.

Maybe this isn't new to everybody, but it was for me today as it can be 
to someone else.

Today I've read some mail I receive daily from a mailing list of CS 
Students of the University where I study (UBA), warning everyone of a 
not-very-honest behavior of the MS people in what concerns to their 
client/protocol "MSN Messenger". They do filter messages that contain 
certain words, apparently from web pages that offers some services which 
makes competition to them (I guess). I've made the test myself with the 
word "subitufoto". This is a web page that offers photo upload for free 
(www.subitufoto.com.ar). When the word "subitufoto" appears in some 
message it is apparently sent but currently not received by the other 
peer. I may be naive but this can't be just a bug, can it?
We never know what other words are being filtered/recorded/etc but this 
sucks!

This makes me distrust profoundly of MSN from now on (not in the sense 
of confidentiality which it naturally lacks). I don't know if this is 
something geographically dependent (i.e. only specific for some 
countries or languages), but I've certainly tested it and it's the bare 
and sad true.

Does anyone know something on the subject?

Regards,
--
Tom;
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Apr 07 2006
parent reply S. Chancellor <dnewsgr mephit.kicks-ass.org> writes:
On 2006-04-07 16:44:59 -0700, Tom <ihate spam.com> said:

 Hi everybody. Sorry about the noise but I wish to know about your 
 opinions on the next.
 
  From time to time, I use MSN protocol for communicating because, at 
 least here in Argentina, it's the most popular client for the common of 
 Argentine guys and girls. Not that I consider myself one of them :P, 
 but to be online with the most of my not-nerd friends, I have no choice 
 other than use the protocol.
 
 Maybe this isn't new to everybody, but it was for me today as it can be 
 to someone else.
 
 Today I've read some mail I receive daily from a mailing list of CS 
 Students of the University where I study (UBA), warning everyone of a 
 not-very-honest behavior of the MS people in what concerns to their 
 client/protocol "MSN Messenger". They do filter messages that contain 
 certain words, apparently from web pages that offers some services 
 which makes competition to them (I guess). I've made the test myself 
 with the word "subitufoto". This is a web page that offers photo upload 
 for free (www.subitufoto.com.ar). When the word "subitufoto" appears in 
 some message it is apparently sent but currently not received by the 
 other peer. I may be naive but this can't be just a bug, can it?
 We never know what other words are being filtered/recorded/etc but this sucks!
 
 This makes me distrust profoundly of MSN from now on (not in the sense 
 of confidentiality which it naturally lacks). I don't know if this is 
 something geographically dependent (i.e. only specific for some 
 countries or languages), but I've certainly tested it and it's the bare 
 and sad true.
 
 Does anyone know something on the subject?
 
 Regards,

Wow, that's some amazing spam. Almost fooled me, although I didn't have any idea why he was posting his BS here. -S.
Apr 07 2006
parent reply Tom <ihate spam.com> writes:
S. Chancellor escribió:
 On 2006-04-07 16:44:59 -0700, Tom <ihate spam.com> said:
 
 Hi everybody. Sorry about the noise but I wish to know about your 
 opinions on the next.

  From time to time, I use MSN protocol for communicating because, at 
 least here in Argentina, it's the most popular client for the common 
 of Argentine guys and girls. Not that I consider myself one of them 
 :P, but to be online with the most of my not-nerd friends, I have no 
 choice other than use the protocol.

 Maybe this isn't new to everybody, but it was for me today as it can 
 be to someone else.

 Today I've read some mail I receive daily from a mailing list of CS 
 Students of the University where I study (UBA), warning everyone of a 
 not-very-honest behavior of the MS people in what concerns to their 
 client/protocol "MSN Messenger". They do filter messages that contain 
 certain words, apparently from web pages that offers some services 
 which makes competition to them (I guess). I've made the test myself 
 with the word "subitufoto". This is a web page that offers photo 
 upload for free (www.subitufoto.com.ar). When the word "subitufoto" 
 appears in some message it is apparently sent but currently not 
 received by the other peer. I may be naive but this can't be just a 
 bug, can it?
 We never know what other words are being filtered/recorded/etc but 
 this sucks!

 This makes me distrust profoundly of MSN from now on (not in the sense 
 of confidentiality which it naturally lacks). I don't know if this is 
 something geographically dependent (i.e. only specific for some 
 countries or languages), but I've certainly tested it and it's the 
 bare and sad true.

 Does anyone know something on the subject?

 Regards,

Wow, that's some amazing spam. Almost fooled me, although I didn't have any idea why he was posting his BS here. -S.

Are you serious? What kind of spam would that be? Not selling anything. Don't be ridiculous please. Maybe I shouldn't had posted here. Sorry, I was just looking if someone knew about that kind of issues in MSN protocol. Tom;
Apr 07 2006
parent reply John Reimer <John_member pathlink.com> writes:
In article <e177l4$kgk$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Tom says...
S. Chancellor escribió:
 On 2006-04-07 16:44:59 -0700, Tom <ihate spam.com> said:
 
 Hi everybody. Sorry about the noise but I wish to know about your 
 opinions on the next.

  From time to time, I use MSN protocol for communicating because, at 
 least here in Argentina, it's the most popular client for the common 
 of Argentine guys and girls. Not that I consider myself one of them 
 :P, but to be online with the most of my not-nerd friends, I have no 
 choice other than use the protocol.

 Maybe this isn't new to everybody, but it was for me today as it can 
 be to someone else.

 Today I've read some mail I receive daily from a mailing list of CS 
 Students of the University where I study (UBA), warning everyone of a 
 not-very-honest behavior of the MS people in what concerns to their 
 client/protocol "MSN Messenger". They do filter messages that contain 
 certain words, apparently from web pages that offers some services 
 which makes competition to them (I guess). I've made the test myself 
 with the word "subitufoto". This is a web page that offers photo 
 upload for free (www.subitufoto.com.ar). When the word "subitufoto" 
 appears in some message it is apparently sent but currently not 
 received by the other peer. I may be naive but this can't be just a 
 bug, can it?
 We never know what other words are being filtered/recorded/etc but 
 this sucks!

 This makes me distrust profoundly of MSN from now on (not in the sense 
 of confidentiality which it naturally lacks). I don't know if this is 
 something geographically dependent (i.e. only specific for some 
 countries or languages), but I've certainly tested it and it's the 
 bare and sad true.

 Does anyone know something on the subject?

 Regards,

Wow, that's some amazing spam. Almost fooled me, although I didn't have any idea why he was posting his BS here. -S.

Are you serious? What kind of spam would that be? Not selling anything. Don't be ridiculous please. Maybe I shouldn't had posted here. Sorry, I was just looking if someone knew about that kind of issues in MSN protocol. Tom;

Tom... I imagine that your post would be appropriate for c++.chat. Can you try posting there? Interesting about MSN, if it's true. I've never heard of that problem. -JJR
Apr 07 2006
parent reply Tom <ihate spam.com> writes:
John Reimer escribió:
 In article <e177l4$kgk$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Tom says...
 S. Chancellor escribió:
 On 2006-04-07 16:44:59 -0700, Tom <ihate spam.com> said:

 Hi everybody. Sorry about the noise but I wish to know about your 
 opinions on the next.

  From time to time, I use MSN protocol for communicating because, at 
 least here in Argentina, it's the most popular client for the common 
 of Argentine guys and girls. Not that I consider myself one of them 
 :P, but to be online with the most of my not-nerd friends, I have no 
 choice other than use the protocol.

 Maybe this isn't new to everybody, but it was for me today as it can 
 be to someone else.

 Today I've read some mail I receive daily from a mailing list of CS 
 Students of the University where I study (UBA), warning everyone of a 
 not-very-honest behavior of the MS people in what concerns to their 
 client/protocol "MSN Messenger". They do filter messages that contain 
 certain words, apparently from web pages that offers some services 
 which makes competition to them (I guess). I've made the test myself 
 with the word "subitufoto". This is a web page that offers photo 
 upload for free (www.subitufoto.com.ar). When the word "subitufoto" 
 appears in some message it is apparently sent but currently not 
 received by the other peer. I may be naive but this can't be just a 
 bug, can it?
 We never know what other words are being filtered/recorded/etc but 
 this sucks!

 This makes me distrust profoundly of MSN from now on (not in the sense 
 of confidentiality which it naturally lacks). I don't know if this is 
 something geographically dependent (i.e. only specific for some 
 countries or languages), but I've certainly tested it and it's the 
 bare and sad true.

 Does anyone know something on the subject?

 Regards,

any idea why he was posting his BS here. -S.

Don't be ridiculous please. Maybe I shouldn't had posted here. Sorry, I was just looking if someone knew about that kind of issues in MSN protocol. Tom;

Tom... I imagine that your post would be appropriate for c++.chat. Can you try posting there? Interesting about MSN, if it's true. I've never heard of that problem. -JJR

As I said before, I shouldn't had posted here, sorry, thanks for the tip JJR. And yes, believe me, it's true (I've captured packets with Ethereal and used GAIM as client and it's all the same). Tom;
Apr 07 2006
parent reply James Dunne <james.jdunne gmail.com> writes:
Tom wrote:
 John Reimer escribió:
 
 In article <e177l4$kgk$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Tom says...

 S. Chancellor escribió:

 On 2006-04-07 16:44:59 -0700, Tom <ihate spam.com> said:

 Hi everybody. Sorry about the noise but I wish to know about your 
 opinions on the next.

  From time to time, I use MSN protocol for communicating because, 
 at least here in Argentina, it's the most popular client for the 
 common of Argentine guys and girls. Not that I consider myself one 
 of them :P, but to be online with the most of my not-nerd friends, 
 I have no choice other than use the protocol.

 Maybe this isn't new to everybody, but it was for me today as it 
 can be to someone else.

 Today I've read some mail I receive daily from a mailing list of CS 
 Students of the University where I study (UBA), warning everyone of 
 a not-very-honest behavior of the MS people in what concerns to 
 their client/protocol "MSN Messenger". They do filter messages that 
 contain certain words, apparently from web pages that offers some 
 services which makes competition to them (I guess). I've made the 
 test myself with the word "subitufoto". This is a web page that 
 offers photo upload for free (www.subitufoto.com.ar). When the word 
 "subitufoto" appears in some message it is apparently sent but 
 currently not received by the other peer. I may be naive but this 
 can't be just a bug, can it?
 We never know what other words are being filtered/recorded/etc but 
 this sucks!

 This makes me distrust profoundly of MSN from now on (not in the 
 sense of confidentiality which it naturally lacks). I don't know if 
 this is something geographically dependent (i.e. only specific for 
 some countries or languages), but I've certainly tested it and it's 
 the bare and sad true.

 Does anyone know something on the subject?

 Regards,

Wow, that's some amazing spam. Almost fooled me, although I didn't have any idea why he was posting his BS here. -S.

anything. Don't be ridiculous please. Maybe I shouldn't had posted here. Sorry, I was just looking if someone knew about that kind of issues in MSN protocol. Tom;

Tom... I imagine that your post would be appropriate for c++.chat. Can you try posting there? Interesting about MSN, if it's true. I've never heard of that problem. -JJR

As I said before, I shouldn't had posted here, sorry, thanks for the tip JJR. And yes, believe me, it's true (I've captured packets with Ethereal and used GAIM as client and it's all the same). Tom;

What's even more scary are the EULAs you agreed to while installing AIM and MSN messenger... go check them again sometime. -- Regards, James Dunne
Apr 08 2006
parent Chris Nicholson-Sauls <ibisbasenji gmail.com> writes:
James Dunne wrote:
 Tom wrote:
 
 John Reimer escribió:

 In article <e177l4$kgk$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Tom says...

 S. Chancellor escribió:

 On 2006-04-07 16:44:59 -0700, Tom <ihate spam.com> said:

 Hi everybody. Sorry about the noise but I wish to know about your 
 opinions on the next.

  From time to time, I use MSN protocol for communicating because, 
 at least here in Argentina, it's the most popular client for the 
 common of Argentine guys and girls. Not that I consider myself one 
 of them :P, but to be online with the most of my not-nerd friends, 
 I have no choice other than use the protocol.

 Maybe this isn't new to everybody, but it was for me today as it 
 can be to someone else.

 Today I've read some mail I receive daily from a mailing list of 
 CS Students of the University where I study (UBA), warning 
 everyone of a not-very-honest behavior of the MS people in what 
 concerns to their client/protocol "MSN Messenger". They do filter 
 messages that contain certain words, apparently from web pages 
 that offers some services which makes competition to them (I 
 guess). I've made the test myself with the word "subitufoto". This 
 is a web page that offers photo upload for free 
 (www.subitufoto.com.ar). When the word "subitufoto" appears in 
 some message it is apparently sent but currently not received by 
 the other peer. I may be naive but this can't be just a bug, can it?
 We never know what other words are being filtered/recorded/etc but 
 this sucks!

 This makes me distrust profoundly of MSN from now on (not in the 
 sense of confidentiality which it naturally lacks). I don't know 
 if this is something geographically dependent (i.e. only specific 
 for some countries or languages), but I've certainly tested it and 
 it's the bare and sad true.

 Does anyone know something on the subject?

 Regards,

Wow, that's some amazing spam. Almost fooled me, although I didn't have any idea why he was posting his BS here. -S.

anything. Don't be ridiculous please. Maybe I shouldn't had posted here. Sorry, I was just looking if someone knew about that kind of issues in MSN protocol. Tom;

Tom... I imagine that your post would be appropriate for c++.chat. Can you try posting there? Interesting about MSN, if it's true. I've never heard of that problem. -JJR

As I said before, I shouldn't had posted here, sorry, thanks for the tip JJR. And yes, believe me, it's true (I've captured packets with Ethereal and used GAIM as client and it's all the same). Tom;

What's even more scary are the EULAs you agreed to while installing AIM and MSN messenger... go check them again sometime.

These are among the reasons I prefer third party clients such as Trillian. -- Chris Nicholson-Sauls
Apr 09 2006