• braddr puremagic.com Feb 18 2006
• Wang Zhen <nehzgnaw gmail.com> Feb 18 2006
• "Regan Heath" <regan netwin.co.nz> Feb 18 2006
• "Derek Parnell" <derek psych.ward> Feb 18 2006
• Kyle Furlong <kylefurlong gmail.com> Feb 18 2006
• Gordon James Miller <gmiller bittwiddlers.com> Feb 18 2006
• Fredrik Olsson <peylow gmail.com> Feb 18 2006
• "Charles" <noone nowhere.com> Feb 18 2006
• John Demme <me teqdruid.com> Feb 18 2006
• nick <nick.atamas gmail.com> Feb 18 2006
• Dawid =?UTF-8?B?Q2nEmcW8YXJraWV3aWN6?= <dawid.ciezarkiewicz gmail.com> Feb 18 2006
• nick <nick.atamas gmail.com> Feb 18 2006
• Alexander Panek <alexander.panek brainsware.org> Feb 18 2006
• "Walter Bright" <newshound digitalmars.com> Feb 18 2006
• Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz <fake dont.use> Feb 18 2006
• "Derek Parnell" <derek psych.ward> Feb 18 2006
• Alexander Panek <Alexander_member pathlink.com> Feb 18 2006
• "Walter Bright" <newshound digitalmars.com> Feb 18 2006
• Sean Kelly <sean f4.ca> Feb 18 2006
• "Walter Bright" <newshound digitalmars.com> Feb 18 2006
• Ant <duitoolkit yahoo.ca> Feb 19 2006
• "Walter Bright" <newshound digitalmars.com> Feb 19 2006
• Ant <duitoolkit yahoo.ca> Feb 19 2006
• Sean Kelly <sean f4.ca> Feb 19 2006
• "Walter Bright" <newshound digitalmars.com> Feb 20 2006
• "Jarrett Billingsley" <kb3ctd2 yahoo.com> Feb 18 2006
• bobef <bobef lessequal.com> Feb 18 2006
• pragma <pragma_member pathlink.com> Feb 18 2006
• "Jarrett Billingsley" <kb3ctd2 yahoo.com> Feb 18 2006
• Lars Ivar Igesund <larsivar igesund.net> Feb 18 2006
• Sean Kelly <sean f4.ca> Feb 18 2006
• clayasaurus <clayasaurus gmail.com> Feb 18 2006
• "Ameer Armaly" <ameer_armaly hotmail.com> Feb 18 2006
• Hasan Aljudy <hasan.aljudy gmail.com> Feb 19 2006
• Georg Wrede <georg.wrede nospam.org> Feb 20 2006
• Derek Parnell <derek psych.ward> Feb 20 2006
• Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> Feb 20 2006

braddr puremagic.com writes:

Walter and I were talking earlier today and one of the topics that came up was
newsgroup vs mailing list.  The good news is that it doesn't have to be one vs
the other, but rather a gateway between the two.

The question:  Who would use the mailing list if it existed.

Follow-up question: if the list was read-only (ie, a one way gateway), would you
still use it?

For myself, I'd prefer to receive mail rather than read via the web or a news
reader, but I know I'm an odd duck at times.

A show of hands.. want to be able to get each of the newsgroups via mail?

Wang Zhen <nehzgnaw gmail.com> writes:

braddr puremagic.com wrote:
 Walter and I were talking earlier today and one of the topics that came up was
 newsgroup vs mailing list.  The good news is that it doesn't have to be one vs
 the other, but rather a gateway between the two.
 
 The question:  Who would use the mailing list if it existed.
 
 Follow-up question: if the list was read-only (ie, a one way gateway), would
you
 still use it?
 
 For myself, I'd prefer to receive mail rather than read via the web or a news
 reader, but I know I'm an odd duck at times.
 
 A show of hands.. want to be able to get each of the newsgroups via mail?
 
 


No. NG is fine. I do wish the web version supported full-text search, 
though.

"Regan Heath" <regan netwin.co.nz> writes:

On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 08:53:44 +0000 (UTC), <braddr puremagic.com> wrote:
 Walter and I were talking earlier today and one of the topics that came  
 up was
 newsgroup vs mailing list.  The good news is that it doesn't have to be  
 one vs
 the other, but rather a gateway between the two.

 The question:  Who would use the mailing list if it existed.

 Follow-up question: if the list was read-only (ie, a one way gateway),  
 would you still use it?

 For myself, I'd prefer to receive mail rather than read via the web or a  
 news reader, but I know I'm an odd duck at times.

 A show of hands.. want to be able to get each of the newsgroups via mail?


No. I dont want to fill my mailbox, my news reader does threading and  
archiving and .. why would I want to use anything else :)
That said, if you want a mailing list, there's no reason why we can't have  
one too.

Regan

"Derek Parnell" <derek psych.ward> writes:

On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:53:44 +1100, <braddr puremagic.com> wrote:

 Walter and I were talking earlier today and one of the topics that came  
 up was
 newsgroup vs mailing list.  The good news is that it doesn't have to be  
 one vs
 the other, but rather a gateway between the two.

 The question:  Who would use the mailing list if it existed.

 Follow-up question: if the list was read-only (ie, a one way gateway),  
 would you
 still use it?

 For myself, I'd prefer to receive mail rather than read via the web or a  
 news
 reader, but I know I'm an odd duck at times.

 A show of hands.. want to be able to get each of the newsgroups via mail?


No thank you. The news reader is the best method of for me.

-- 
Derek Parnell
Melbourne, Australia

Kyle Furlong <kylefurlong gmail.com> writes:

braddr puremagic.com wrote:
 Walter and I were talking earlier today and one of the topics that came up was
 newsgroup vs mailing list.  The good news is that it doesn't have to be one vs
 the other, but rather a gateway between the two.
 
 The question:  Who would use the mailing list if it existed.
 
 Follow-up question: if the list was read-only (ie, a one way gateway), would
you
 still use it?
 
 For myself, I'd prefer to receive mail rather than read via the web or a news
 reader, but I know I'm an odd duck at times.
 
 A show of hands.. want to be able to get each of the newsgroups via mail?
 
 

Gordon James Miller <gmiller bittwiddlers.com> writes:

braddr puremagic.com wrote:
 Walter and I were talking earlier today and one of the topics that came up was
 newsgroup vs mailing list.  The good news is that it doesn't have to be one vs
 the other, but rather a gateway between the two.
 
 The question:  Who would use the mailing list if it existed.
 
 Follow-up question: if the list was read-only (ie, a one way gateway), would
you
 still use it?
 
 For myself, I'd prefer to receive mail rather than read via the web or a news
 reader, but I know I'm an odd duck at times.
 
 A show of hands.. want to be able to get each of the newsgroups via mail?
 
 


If there was a mailing list (or as you said, a gateway) I would most 
definitely use it, even if it was only one way.  Having a digest ability 
would be fantastic.

Fredrik Olsson <peylow gmail.com> writes:

braddr puremagic.com skrev:
 A show of hands.. want to be able to get each of the newsgroups via mail?
 


I prefer news groups. News groups works great for me, news was kind of 
invented for this purpose :).

"Charles" <noone nowhere.com> writes:

I've come to like the newsgroups , though I would join both :).

Charlie

<braddr puremagic.com> wrote in message
news:dt6nao$1l2d$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Walter and I were talking earlier today and one of the topics that came up


 newsgroup vs mailing list.  The good news is that it doesn't have to be


 the other, but rather a gateway between the two.

 The question:  Who would use the mailing list if it existed.

 Follow-up question: if the list was read-only (ie, a one way gateway),


 still use it?

 For myself, I'd prefer to receive mail rather than read via the web or a


 reader, but I know I'm an odd duck at times.

 A show of hands.. want to be able to get each of the newsgroups via mail?

John Demme <me teqdruid.com> writes:

braddr puremagic.com wrote:

 Walter and I were talking earlier today and one of the topics that came up
 was
 newsgroup vs mailing list.  The good news is that it doesn't have to be
 one vs the other, but rather a gateway between the two.
 
 The question:  Who would use the mailing list if it existed.
 
 Follow-up question: if the list was read-only (ie, a one way gateway),
 would you still use it?
 
 For myself, I'd prefer to receive mail rather than read via the web or a
 news reader, but I know I'm an odd duck at times.
 
 A show of hands.. want to be able to get each of the newsgroups via mail?



I'm pretty happy with the NG, but better searching ability would be nice...
I wonder if someone could again persue getting the groups on google groups?

~John Demme

nick <nick.atamas gmail.com> writes:

braddr puremagic.com wrote:
 Walter and I were talking earlier today and one of the topics that came up was
 newsgroup vs mailing list.  The good news is that it doesn't have to be one vs
 the other, but rather a gateway between the two.
 
 The question:  Who would use the mailing list if it existed.
 
 Follow-up question: if the list was read-only (ie, a one way gateway), would
you
 still use it?
 
 For myself, I'd prefer to receive mail rather than read via the web or a news
 reader, but I know I'm an odd duck at times.
 
 A show of hands.. want to be able to get each of the newsgroups via mail?
 
 


I would prefer a forum like PHPBB.

I don't like how newsgroup thread-view indents things every time someone
replies.

Dawid =?UTF-8?B?Q2nEmcW8YXJraWV3aWN6?= <dawid.ciezarkiewicz gmail.com> writes:

nick wrote:
 I would prefer a forum like PHPBB.


<g> Yeah... great joke.

nick <nick.atamas gmail.com> writes:

Dawid Ciężarkiewicz wrote:
 nick wrote:
 I would prefer a forum like PHPBB.


 <g> Yeah... great joke.


No no, I really do like the web forum things.
What's wrong with those?

Alexander Panek <alexander.panek brainsware.org> writes:

Dawid Ciężarkiewicz wrote:
 nick wrote:
 
I would prefer a forum like PHPBB.


 
 <g> Yeah... great joke.


I don't get what's so funny about this. I also think a forum would be 
nice, but somehow I got used to this newsgroup alread, so I don't mind 
anymore. But in general, I'd prefer a forum OR a nice web interface for 
newsgroups (The one digitalmars uses isn't really the best, IMO).

Regards, Alex

"Walter Bright" <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:

"Alexander Panek" <alexander.panek brainsware.org> wrote in message 
news:dt7ok3$2ivn$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 But in general, I'd prefer a forum OR a nice web interface for newsgroups 
 (The one digitalmars uses isn't really the best, IMO).


It's not great, but it's been working reliably for several years, which in 
itself is a great feature <g>. 

Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz <fake dont.use> writes:

The Sat, 18 Feb 2006 12:10:24 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
 But in general, I'd prefer a forum OR a nice web interface for
 newsgroups (The one digitalmars uses isn't really the best, IMO).


 It's not great, but it's been working reliably for several years,
 which in itself is a great feature <g>.


Stop working on D and use well known C/C++. Why improve?

"Derek Parnell" <derek psych.ward> writes:

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 08:58:04 +1100, Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz  
<fake dont.use> wrote:

 The Sat, 18 Feb 2006 12:10:24 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
 But in general, I'd prefer a forum OR a nice web interface for
 newsgroups (The one digitalmars uses isn't really the best, IMO).


 It's not great, but it's been working reliably for several years,
 which in itself is a great feature <g>.


 Stop working on D and use well known C/C++. Why improve?


Damn! You beat me to it <G>

The DigitalMars Web interface to the newsgroup is a shining example of how  
not to design a GUI. Mind you, most of the HTML based list views are also  
poor UIs.

-- 
Derek Parnell
Melbourne, Australia

Alexander Panek <Alexander_member pathlink.com> writes:

In article <dt80n6$2qiu$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Walter Bright says...
"Alexander Panek" <alexander.panek brainsware.org> wrote in message 
news:dt7ok3$2ivn$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 But in general, I'd prefer a forum OR a nice web interface for newsgroups 
 (The one digitalmars uses isn't really the best, IMO).


It's not great, but it's been working reliably for several years, which in 
itself is a great feature <g>. 


One long-term goal achieved, several short-term goals missed. :P

Another question (quite OT, sorry):
How's it coded? CGI? (Perl?, C?)

"Walter Bright" <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:

"Alexander Panek" <Alexander_member pathlink.com> wrote in message 
news:dt8f2i$6d8$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Another question (quite OT, sorry):
 How's it coded? CGI? (Perl?, C?)


I have no idea. Jan Knepper manages it. 

Sean Kelly <sean f4.ca> writes:

Alexander Panek wrote:
 Dawid Ciężarkiewicz wrote:
 nick wrote:

 I would prefer a forum like PHPBB.



 <g> Yeah... great joke.


 I don't get what's so funny about this. I also think a forum would be 
 nice, but somehow I got used to this newsgroup alread, so I don't mind 
 anymore. But in general, I'd prefer a forum OR a nice web interface for 
 newsgroups (The one digitalmars uses isn't really the best, IMO).


Try emailing Google to see if they'll add digitalmars.* to their list of 
groups.  I emailed them once in the past but a few more emails would 
probably help.


Sean

"Walter Bright" <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:

"Sean Kelly" <sean f4.ca> wrote in message 
news:dt869c$300m$2 digitaldaemon.com...
 Try emailing Google to see if they'll add digitalmars.* to their list of 
 groups.  I emailed them once in the past but a few more emails would 
 probably help.


I have mixed feelings about Google adding digitalmars.*. One of the cons is 
that it would then become the target of spammers. The newsgroups here have 
been remarkably free of spam and other abuses. I'd hate to see that change.

I'd prefer a comp.lang.d be set up. 

Ant <duitoolkit yahoo.ca> writes:

Walter Bright wrote:
 "Sean Kelly" <sean f4.ca> wrote in message 
 news:dt869c$300m$2 digitaldaemon.com...
 Try emailing Google to see if they'll add digitalmars.* to their list of 
 groups.  I emailed them once in the past but a few more emails would 
 probably help.


 I have mixed feelings about Google adding digitalmars.*. One of the cons is 
 that it would then become the target of spammers. The newsgroups here have 
 been remarkably free of spam and other abuses. I'd hate to see that change.
 
 I'd prefer a comp.lang.d be set up. 
 
 


my ISP discontinued usenet service as of Dec 15, 2005

"Walter Bright" <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:

"Ant" <duitoolkit yahoo.ca> wrote in message 
news:dt9vkg$2ch4$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 my ISP discontinued usenet service as of Dec 15, 2005


All I can say is, whatever for? 

Ant <duitoolkit yahoo.ca> writes:

Walter Bright wrote:
 "Ant" <duitoolkit yahoo.ca> wrote in message 
 news:dt9vkg$2ch4$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 my ISP discontinued usenet service as of Dec 15, 2005


 All I can say is, whatever for? 
 
 


other ISPs cut the binary groups.
(of course this is not the place to discuss the merit of that)

Ant

Sean Kelly <sean f4.ca> writes:

Walter Bright wrote:
 "Sean Kelly" <sean f4.ca> wrote in message 
 news:dt869c$300m$2 digitaldaemon.com...
 Try emailing Google to see if they'll add digitalmars.* to their list of 
 groups.  I emailed them once in the past but a few more emails would 
 probably help.


 I have mixed feelings about Google adding digitalmars.*. One of the cons is 
 that it would then become the target of spammers. The newsgroups here have 
 been remarkably free of spam and other abuses. I'd hate to see that change.


Good point.  Really, I mostly like Google Groups for its searching 
capability.  Otherwise, I'm very happy with Thunderbird as my 
DigitalMars usenet client.

 I'd prefer a comp.lang.d be set up. 


Aye, that might be nice.


Sean

"Walter Bright" <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:

"Sean Kelly" <sean f4.ca> wrote in message 
news:dtada5$2ph0$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Good point.  Really, I mostly like Google Groups for its searching 
 capability.  Otherwise, I'm very happy with Thunderbird as my DigitalMars 
 usenet client.


Search is why I set up the newsgroup archives system. Ironically, it relies 
on google to do the actual search work <g>.

 I'd prefer a comp.lang.d be set up.




Yup. 

"Jarrett Billingsley" <kb3ctd2 yahoo.com> writes:

<braddr puremagic.com> wrote in message 
news:dt6nao$1l2d$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 The question:  Who would use the mailing list if it existed.


Something even harder to follow and read than a newsgroup?  Count me out.

Hey, I have an idea.  Let's just do away with the internet and use physical 
mail to communicate.  Or telegraphs.  Ooh, maybe smoke signals!  Modern 
technology is so overrated.  :P 

bobef <bobef lessequal.com> writes:

Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
 <braddr puremagic.com> wrote in message 
 news:dt6nao$1l2d$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 The question:  Who would use the mailing list if it existed.


 Something even harder to follow and read than a newsgroup?  Count me out.
 
 Hey, I have an idea.  Let's just do away with the internet and use physical 
 mail to communicate.  Or telegraphs.  Ooh, maybe smoke signals!  Modern 
 technology is so overrated.  :P 
 
 


This is what I think too. The news group is fine.

pragma <pragma_member pathlink.com> writes:

In article <dt7qh3$2kk1$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Jarrett Billingsley says...
<braddr puremagic.com> wrote in message 
news:dt6nao$1l2d$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 The question:  Who would use the mailing list if it existed.


Something even harder to follow and read than a newsgroup?  Count me out.

Hey, I have an idea.  Let's just do away with the internet and use physical 
mail to communicate.  Or telegraphs.  Ooh, maybe smoke signals!  Modern 
technology is so overrated.  :P 


*sigh* Time to drag out this old chestnut:

http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt

Enjoy!

- Eric Anderton at yahoo

"Jarrett Billingsley" <kb3ctd2 yahoo.com> writes:

"pragma" <pragma_member pathlink.com> wrote in message 
news:dt7r30$2l2i$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 *sigh* Time to drag out this old chestnut:

 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt

 Enjoy!


Hahaha :) 

Lars Ivar Igesund <larsivar igesund.net> writes:

pragma wrote:

 In article <dt7qh3$2kk1$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Jarrett Billingsley says...
<braddr puremagic.com> wrote in message
news:dt6nao$1l2d$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 The question:  Who would use the mailing list if it existed.


Something even harder to follow and read than a newsgroup?  Count me out.

Hey, I have an idea.  Let's just do away with the internet and use
physical
mail to communicate.  Or telegraphs.  Ooh, maybe smoke signals!  Modern
technology is so overrated.  :P


 *sigh* Time to drag out this old chestnut:
 
 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt
 
 Enjoy!
 
 - Eric Anderton at yahoo


Heh, funny, but a little bit more seriously:

I sat next to an old radio engineer at lunch at work, and he said that while
short wave radios (radio amateur stuff) was more widely used, they had
started testing a packet network using these radio masts along the
Norwegian coast. They had some problems though, and was somewhat slow at a
few bauds. What he thought was good about it though, compared to todays
Wi-Fi and Wimax, was that it was directed and didn't litter all the space
with radiowaves. He felt that that was a better engineering achievement.

Sean Kelly <sean f4.ca> writes:

braddr puremagic.com wrote:
 Walter and I were talking earlier today and one of the topics that came up was
 newsgroup vs mailing list.  The good news is that it doesn't have to be one vs
 the other, but rather a gateway between the two.
 
 The question:  Who would use the mailing list if it existed.


I would.  I'm on a number of mailing list for various reasons and find 
them useful for more channeled discussions.

 Follow-up question: if the list was read-only (ie, a one way gateway), would
you
 still use it?


It depends on what information the list provided and if it was available 
any other way.

 For myself, I'd prefer to receive mail rather than read via the web or a news
 reader, but I know I'm an odd duck at times.
 
 A show of hands.. want to be able to get each of the newsgroups via mail?


d.D gets  a tremendous amount of traffic--I'm not sure I really want to 
get 100 additional emails a day.  But for something a bit more 
specialized I'm all for it.


Sean

clayasaurus <clayasaurus gmail.com> writes:

Newsgroup is good enough for me.

braddr puremagic.com wrote:
 Walter and I were talking earlier today and one of the topics that came up was
 newsgroup vs mailing list.  The good news is that it doesn't have to be one vs
 the other, but rather a gateway between the two.
 
 The question:  Who would use the mailing list if it existed.
 
 Follow-up question: if the list was read-only (ie, a one way gateway), would
you
 still use it?
 
 For myself, I'd prefer to receive mail rather than read via the web or a news
 reader, but I know I'm an odd duck at times.
 
 A show of hands.. want to be able to get each of the newsgroups via mail?
 
 

"Ameer Armaly" <ameer_armaly hotmail.com> writes:

<braddr puremagic.com> wrote in message 
news:dt6nao$1l2d$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Walter and I were talking earlier today and one of the topics that came up 
 was
 newsgroup vs mailing list.  The good news is that it doesn't have to be 
 one vs
 the other, but rather a gateway between the two.

 The question:  Who would use the mailing list if it existed.

 Follow-up question: if the list was read-only (ie, a one way gateway), 
 would you
 still use it?

 For myself, I'd prefer to receive mail rather than read via the web or a 
 news
 reader, but I know I'm an odd duck at times.

 A show of hands.. want to be able to get each of the newsgroups via mail?


 

Hasan Aljudy <hasan.aljudy gmail.com> writes:

braddr puremagic.com wrote:
 Walter and I were talking earlier today and one of the topics that came up was
 newsgroup vs mailing list.  The good news is that it doesn't have to be one vs
 the other, but rather a gateway between the two.
 
 The question:  Who would use the mailing list if it existed.
 
 Follow-up question: if the list was read-only (ie, a one way gateway), would
you
 still use it?
 
 For myself, I'd prefer to receive mail rather than read via the web or a news
 reader, but I know I'm an odd duck at times.
 
 A show of hands.. want to be able to get each of the newsgroups via mail?
 
 


no man .. the NG is just fine,
althu ideally I would prefer a more modern web-based forum package.

Georg Wrede <georg.wrede nospam.org> writes:

braddr puremagic.com wrote:
 Walter and I were talking earlier today and one of the topics that
 came up was newsgroup vs mailing list.  The good news is that it
 doesn't have to be one vs the other, but rather a gateway between the
 two.
 
 The question:  Who would use the mailing list if it existed.
 
 Follow-up question: if the list was read-only (ie, a one way
 gateway), would you still use it?
 
 For myself, I'd prefer to receive mail rather than read via the web
 or a news reader, but I know I'm an odd duck at times.
 
 A show of hands.. want to be able to get each of the newsgroups via
 mail?


This could be implemented with a small Perl cron script on any machine 
outside digitalmars.com. Anybody with telnet access to an account could 
do this for the community in no time.

As to whether it really is worth the effort, at least I wouldn't 
subscribe. Mozilla as a newsreader is good enough.

Besides, I frequently switch between threaded, order-received, 
sorted-by-author, and various filtered views. Piece of cake.
And I mark posts read or unread, and with various colors so I can reread 
them later if they are too long, or need background research before 
commenting on.

Derek Parnell <derek psych.ward> writes:

On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 02:46:19 +0200, Georg Wrede wrote:

 Mozilla as a newsreader is good enough.
 
 Besides, I frequently switch between threaded, order-received, 
 sorted-by-author, and various filtered views. Piece of cake.
 And I mark posts read or unread, and with various colors so I can reread 
 them later if they are too long, or need background research before 
 commenting on.


Yes, a decent newsreader is a good asset. I use two, 40Tude Dialog and
Opera. I prefer Dialog but Opera has a reasonable basic one.

-- 
Derek
(skype: derek.j.parnell)
Melbourne, Australia
"Down with mediocracy!"
21/02/2006 11:49:19 AM

Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> writes:

On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, Georg Wrede wrote:

 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 02:46:19 +0200
 From: Georg Wrede <georg.wrede nospam.org>
 Reply-To:
     "gatewayed mailing list for nntp://news.digitalmars.com/digitalmars.D"
     <digitalmars-d puremagic.com>
 To: digitalmars-d puremagic.com
 Newsgroups: digitalmars.D
 Subject: Re: mailing list vs news group
 
 braddr puremagic.com wrote:
 Walter and I were talking earlier today and one of the topics that
 came up was newsgroup vs mailing list.  The good news is that it
 doesn't have to be one vs the other, but rather a gateway between the
 two.
 
 The question:  Who would use the mailing list if it existed.
 
 Follow-up question: if the list was read-only (ie, a one way
 gateway), would you still use it?
 
 For myself, I'd prefer to receive mail rather than read via the web
 or a news reader, but I know I'm an odd duck at times.
 
 A show of hands.. want to be able to get each of the newsgroups via
 mail?


 This could be implemented with a small Perl cron script on any machine 
 outside digitalmars.com. Anybody with telnet access to an account could 
 do this for the community in no time.
 
 As to whether it really is worth the effort, at least I wouldn't 
 subscribe. Mozilla as a newsreader is good enough.
 
 Besides, I frequently switch between threaded, order-received, 
 sorted-by-author, and various filtered views. Piece of cake.
 And I mark posts read or unread, and with various colors so I can reread 
 them later if they are too long, or need background research before 
 commenting on.


I'm well aware that it can be done by anyone.  I was fishing for who was 
interested in having such a service.  Since it's more than just me, though 
not a lot of hands were raised, I've gone ahead and setup several of the 
newsgroups as mailing lists.

	http://lists.puremagic.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/

At the moment, they're news -> mail only.  At the toggle of a radio button 
I can make them two way, but I figured one step at a time.  These have 
been active since saturday, so there's a bit of mail in the archives 
already.  Each of the lists can be received as digests for those that want 
it.

Walter, feel free to put a link on your site if you want.

Anyone, if you want any of the other groups hosted at 
news.digitalmars.com, just let me know.

Later,
Brad