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reply "Jarrett Billingsley" <kb3ctd2 yahoo.com> writes:
Dead?

Did everyone somehow schedule their vacations for this month or something? 
I mean heck, there have been two posts on the announcement board in the past 
8 days.  The bugs and learn boards are almost equally stagnant. 
Jun 29 2005
next sibling parent "Craig Black" <cblack ara.com> writes:
Dead?

Perhaps, for fear that D might some day overtake C#, Microsoft is 
strategically eliminating everyone who posts to this newsgroup, and YOU 
could be next.

-Craig 
Jun 29 2005
prev sibling next sibling parent reply AJG <AJG_member pathlink.com> writes:
I blame the newsgroup system ;). People are just too used to regular web forums
nowadays, so I think it hampers the community's growth. I always use the web
interface; I don't think I even have a newsreader installed.

--AJG.

In article <d9u7hi$17ep$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Jarrett Billingsley says...
Dead?

Did everyone somehow schedule their vacations for this month or something? 
I mean heck, there have been two posts on the announcement board in the past 
8 days.  The bugs and learn boards are almost equally stagnant. 

================================ 2B || !2B, that is the question.
Jun 29 2005
parent Carlos Santander <csantander619 gmail.com> writes:
AJG escribió:
 I blame the newsgroup system ;). People are just too used to regular web forums
 nowadays, so I think it hampers the community's growth. I always use the web
 interface; I don't think I even have a newsreader installed.
 
 --AJG.
 
 ================================
 2B || !2B, that is the question.

I like forums but I prefer newsgroups because I can browse them offline. It's a plus for us with dial-up. -- Carlos Santander Bernal
Jun 29 2005
prev sibling next sibling parent clayasaurus <clayasaurus gmail.com> writes:
Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
 Dead?
 
 Did everyone somehow schedule their vacations for this month or something? 
 I mean heck, there have been two posts on the announcement board in the past 
 8 days.  The bugs and learn boards are almost equally stagnant. 
 
 

It is not dead, it is just sleeping...
Jun 29 2005
prev sibling next sibling parent reply John Reimer <brk_6502 yahoo.com> writes:
Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
 Dead?
 
 Did everyone somehow schedule their vacations for this month or something? 
 I mean heck, there have been two posts on the announcement board in the past 
 8 days.  The bugs and learn boards are almost equally stagnant. 
 
 

It's summer. What do you expect? :-) People typically get outrageously busy during summer. I know I do. I've had very little time for D over the last couple of months. You'll see. Come fall and winter... it'll be a-buzzing again here. I was noticing that dsource was stagnating too. -JJR
Jun 30 2005
parent reply "Jarrett Billingsley" <kb3ctd2 yahoo.com> writes:
"John Reimer" <brk_6502 yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:d9uf75$1iv9$1 digitaldaemon.com...

Woah!  How'd you post from the future?  If I'm not mistaken, there is 
nowhere in the world right now where it's 11:30 AM on the 30th.. 
Jun 29 2005
parent John Reimer <brk_6502 yahoo.com> writes:
Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
 "John Reimer" <brk_6502 yahoo.com> wrote in message 
 news:d9uf75$1iv9$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 
 Woah!  How'd you post from the future?  If I'm not mistaken, there is 
 nowhere in the world right now where it's 11:30 AM on the 30th.. 
 
 

Darn computer... that's the second time.
Jun 30 2005
prev sibling next sibling parent pragma <pragma_member pathlink.com> writes:
In article <d9u7hi$17ep$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Jarrett Billingsley says...
Dead?

Did everyone somehow schedule their vacations for this month or something? 
I mean heck, there have been two posts on the announcement board in the past 
8 days.  The bugs and learn boards are almost equally stagnant. 

Everyone's on vacation. Sniff around dsource.org and you'll see a sudden drop in activity from frequent posters. Kris was out all last week, and if this summer is anything like the last, he'll be gone for a while. I'm in Denver right now on training at Sun (yes, we're taking on more Java at work.. burn me as a heretic when I get back). So I've dropped off the radar a little. I'm sure things will pick back up in Sept/Aug. - EricAnderton at yahoo
Jun 29 2005
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Jarrett Billingsley" <kb3ctd2 yahoo.com> writes:
"Craig Black" <cblack ara.com> wrote in message 
news:d9ua6n$1ajk$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Perhaps, for fear that D might some day overtake C#, Microsoft is 
 strategically eliminating everyone who posts to this newsgroup, and YOU 
 could be next.

Hehe, though to tell the truth, if I had to use one language other than D, I'd probably choose C#, only because it's so similar. "AJG" <AJG_member pathlink.com> wrote in message news:d9udab$1f3p$1 digitaldaemon.com...
I blame the newsgroup system ;). People are just too used to regular web 
forums
 nowadays, so I think it hampers the community's growth. I always use the 
 web
 interface; I don't think I even have a newsreader installed.

As an avid forumer, I'll have to agree with you there.. NGs seem like something out of the infancy of the internet. Or before that. Even a very basic forum system would be better than this. "pragma" <pragma_member pathlink.com> wrote in message news:d9uk1b$1ouu$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Everyone's on vacation.  Sniff around dsource.org and you'll see a sudden 
 drop
 in activity from frequent posters.

At least it's not just here!
Jun 29 2005
next sibling parent reply "Unknown W. Brackets" <unknown simplemachines.org> writes:
Alas, that discussion has happened many times previous.  Considering I 
write forum software, one should have an idea of my position ;).

Walter, on the other hand, seems to prefer newsgroups - I believe he 
felt it preferable to be able to work with a client of your choice, than 
a web interface (to which my answer would be theming, but that still 
doesn't completely solve it.)

-[Unknown]


I blame the newsgroup system ;). People are just too used to regular web 
forums
nowadays, so I think it hampers the community's growth. I always use the 
web
interface; I don't think I even have a newsreader installed.

As an avid forumer, I'll have to agree with you there.. NGs seem like something out of the infancy of the internet. Or before that. Even a very basic forum system would be better than this.

Jun 29 2005
parent reply Thomas Kuehne <thomas-dloop kuehne.this-is-spam.cn> writes:
Unknown W. Brackets schrieb am Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:25:04 -0700:
 Alas, that discussion has happened many times previous.  Considering I 
 write forum software, one should have an idea of my position ;).

 Walter, on the other hand, seems to prefer newsgroups - I believe he 
 felt it preferable to be able to work with a client of your choice, than 
 a web interface (to which my answer would be theming, but that still 
 doesn't completely solve it.)

How about a forum that uses a nntp server for storing messages? Thomas
Jun 29 2005
parent reply "Unknown W. Brackets" <unknown simplemachines.org> writes:
Well, some of the main purposes of forums are to:

   - track members (NNTP doesn't understand this, iirc.)
   - keep track of their preferences (NNTP clients do this currently.)
   - allow moderation and similar things (stickies, locking, etc.)

While an NNTP *hookup* could be made, storing it with NNTP wouldn't 
really work out so well.  You'd lose most of the benefits of forums, and 
lose the benefits of clients as well - in short, you'd be back to the 
current web interface.

Anyway, I doubt the hosting digitalmars.com is currently with would 
allow a different NNTP server to be installed (whether by xinetd or what 
have you) to serve things, so I'm not sure that would work either.

-[Unknown]


 How about a forum that uses a nntp server for storing messages? 
 
 Thomas

Jun 29 2005
parent Thomas Kuehne <thomas-dloop kuehne.this-is-spam.cn> writes:
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Unknown W. Brackets schrieb am Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:13:23 -0700:
 Well, some of the main purposes of forums are to:

    - track members (NNTP doesn't understand this, iirc.)
    - keep track of their preferences (NNTP clients do this currently.)
    - allow moderation and similar things (stickies, locking, etc.)

 While an NNTP *hookup* could be made, storing it with NNTP wouldn't 
 really work out so well.  You'd lose most of the benefits of forums, and 
 lose the benefits of clients as well - in short, you'd be back to the 
 current web interface.

 Anyway, I doubt the hosting digitalmars.com is currently with would 
 allow a different NNTP server to be installed (whether by xinetd or what 
 have you) to serve things, so I'm not sure that would work either.

I was thinking about 2 backends: - - plain NNTP for messages (allows: chancel & edit) - - DB of your choice to to store all the added-value data Tracking and preferences aren't the problem. If you customise the NNTP server you could enforce thread locking (-> references header). Stickies can only effect the forum UI not the NNTP side. Granted, the NNTP server could play with Date and Xref ... Thomas -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFCwwl/3w+/yD4P9tIRAlRnAJ933so8epf85sreEKkdOBgsSh4OOACfeXu5 ZGlkzdwuoFosxubYqyONUBg= =9sVO -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Jun 29 2005
prev sibling parent =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_F_Bj=F6rklund?= <afb algonet.se> writes:
Jarrett Billingsley wrote:

 As an avid forumer, I'll have to agree with you there.. NGs seem like 
 something out of the infancy of the internet.  Or before that.  Even a very 
 basic forum system would be better than this.

It's a shame that Google Groups refuses to pick up the digitalmars NGs. It would have made it more accessible... But there's always Dsource ? --anders
Jun 29 2005
prev sibling next sibling parent "Walter" <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:
"Jarrett Billingsley" <kb3ctd2 yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d9u7hi$17ep$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Dead?

 Did everyone somehow schedule their vacations for this month or something?
 I mean heck, there have been two posts on the announcement board in the

 8 days.  The bugs and learn boards are almost equally stagnant.

It's normal for traffic to drop off substantially in the summer. August is particularly dead. Back in the old Zortech days, we'd not even bother spending money on advertising in August.
Jun 29 2005
prev sibling parent reply Ilya Minkov <minkov cs.tum.edu> writes:
Jarrett Billingsley schrieb:
 Dead?
 
 Did everyone somehow schedule their vacations for this month or something? 
 I mean heck, there have been two posts on the announcement board in the past 
 8 days.  The bugs and learn boards are almost equally stagnant. 
 

Sorry, it's somewhat tasteless, but i'll post it anyway --- 8< --- Every night with my star friends We eat caviar and drink champagne Snifing in the V.I.P. area We talk about Frank Sinatra Do you know the Frank Sinatra? He's dead He's dead hahahahahaha [...] --- >8 --- Miss Kittin & The Hacker around 2000 maybe. The rest is even more tasteless. Draw your conclusions, gentlemen. -3yE
Jul 15 2005
parent AJG <AJG_member pathlink.com> writes:
In article <db9bo7$li$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Ilya Minkov says...
Jarrett Billingsley schrieb:
 Dead?
 
 Did everyone somehow schedule their vacations for this month or something? 
 I mean heck, there have been two posts on the announcement board in the past 
 8 days.  The bugs and learn boards are almost equally stagnant. 
 

Sorry, it's somewhat tasteless, but i'll post it anyway --- 8< --- Every night with my star friends We eat caviar and drink champagne Snifing in the V.I.P. area We talk about Frank Sinatra Do you know the Frank Sinatra? He's dead He's dead hahahahahaha [...] --- >8 --- Miss Kittin & The Hacker around 2000 maybe. The rest is even more tasteless. Draw your conclusions, gentlemen.

I agree there's been some sniffing going on. What, who, where? I'll leave that as an exercise to the reader. --AJG.
Jul 15 2005