## digitalmars.D - Aargh! Darn "is in multiply defined" errors

"Nick Sabalausky" <z a.a> writes:
I've had a few problems with getting "module X is in multiply defined"
errors before and it usually turned out to be a cryptic way of saying "you
need annother 'import' statement somewhere". (BTW, Is that going to be fixed
sometime?)

I seem to be getting something  little weirder now though.  When I compile
the sources seperately and then link them everything works fine, but when I
try to compile and link everything in one call to dmd I'm getting that
multiply defines error on each of my modules.
Feb 14 2005
In article <cur6d7$1ueq$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Nick Sabalausky says...
I've had a few problems with getting "module X is in multiply defined"
errors before and it usually turned out to be a cryptic way of saying "you
need annother 'import' statement somewhere". (BTW, Is that going to be fixed
sometime?)

I seem to be getting something  little weirder now though.  When I compile
the sources seperately and then link them everything works fine, but when I
try to compile and link everything in one call to dmd I'm getting that
multiply defines error on each of my modules.

Just a thought: are you making sure that you're using 'private import'? If your module has statements like this:
// example module 'A'
import std.stdio;
import std.string;

Then when you import this in a separate file, you get problems:
import A;
import std.stdio; // causes collision

So go and change your imports to 'private' instead, since its likely what you're intending to do:
// (revised) example module 'A'
private import std.stdio;
private import std.string;

- EricAnderton at yahoo
Feb 14 2005
"Nick Sabalausky" <z a.a> writes:
Yea, when I was getting the errors before, I went all paranoid and just
turned everything into a private import.

"pragma" <pragma_member pathlink.com> wrote in message
news:cur81m$20jf$1 digitaldaemon.com...
In article <cur6d7$1ueq$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Nick Sabalausky says...
I've had a few problems with getting "module X is in multiply defined"
errors before and it usually turned out to be a cryptic way of saying "you
need annother 'import' statement somewhere". (BTW, Is that going to be
fixed
sometime?)

I seem to be getting something  little weirder now though.  When I compile
the sources seperately and then link them everything works fine, but when
I
try to compile and link everything in one call to dmd I'm getting that
multiply defines error on each of my modules.

Just a thought: are you making sure that you're using 'private import'? If your module has statements like this:
// example module 'A'
import std.stdio;
import std.string;

Then when you import this in a separate file, you get problems:
import A;
import std.stdio; // causes collision

So go and change your imports to 'private' instead, since its likely what you're intending to do:
// (revised) example module 'A'
private import std.stdio;
private import std.string;

- EricAnderton at yahoo

Feb 14 2005
"Ben Hinkle" <ben.hinkle gmail.com> writes:
If your module has statements like this:

// example module 'A'
import std.stdio;
import std.string;

Then when you import this in a separate file, you get problems:
import A;
import std.stdio; // causes collision

I couldn't reproduce this behavior. Can you post an example of where an import in A will cause a collision?
Feb 14 2005
In article <curdb0$25h4$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Ben Hinkle says...
If your module has statements like this:

// example module 'A'
import std.stdio;
import std.string;

Then when you import this in a separate file, you get problems:
import A;
import std.stdio; // causes collision

I couldn't reproduce this behavior. Can you post an example of where an import in A will cause a collision?

My apologies. That's what I get for shooting from the hip, w/o checking with an actual compiler first. I cannot, for the life of me, re-create such a problem myself. Although I *do* recall a day when such errors were easy to create. - EricAnderton at yahoo
Feb 15 2005
Sean Kelly <sean f4.ca> writes:
In article <cutpn4$1fou$1 digitaldaemon.com>, pragma says...
In article <curdb0$25h4$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Ben Hinkle says...
If your module has statements like this:

// example module 'A'
import std.stdio;
import std.string;

Then when you import this in a separate file, you get problems:
import A;
import std.stdio; // causes collision

I couldn't reproduce this behavior. Can you post an example of where an import in A will cause a collision?

My apologies. That's what I get for shooting from the hip, w/o checking with an actual compiler first. I cannot, for the life of me, re-create such a problem myself. Although I *do* recall a day when such errors were easy to create.

IIRC this was fixed in the late 90's somewhere. So I will confirm that it was a problem at one time, but it shouldn't be any more. Sean
Feb 15 2005
"Regan Heath" <regan netwin.co.nz> writes:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:49:38 -0500, Nick Sabalausky <z a.a> wrote:
I've had a few problems with getting "module X is in multiply defined"
errors before and it usually turned out to be a cryptic way of saying
"you
need annother 'import' statement somewhere". (BTW, Is that going to be
fixed
sometime?)

I seem to be getting something  little weirder now though.  When I
compile
the sources seperately and then link them everything works fine, but
when I
try to compile and link everything in one call to dmd I'm getting that
multiply defines error on each of my modules.

I've seen/had this error when a module was missnamed i.e. [foo.d] module not_foo; changing it to [foo.d] module foo; fixes it, you might want to have a quick check that you don't have something like that. It may even be caused if the file is in the wrong directory i.e. [c:\d\projects\foo\bar\baz.d] module foo.not_bar.baz; Regan
Feb 14 2005
"Nick Sabalausky" <z a.a> writes:
"Regan Heath" <regan netwin.co.nz> wrote in message
news:opsl7kmthn23k2f5 ally...
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:49:38 -0500, Nick Sabalausky <z a.a> wrote:
I've had a few problems with getting "module X is in multiply defined"
errors before and it usually turned out to be a cryptic way of saying
"you
need annother 'import' statement somewhere". (BTW, Is that going to be
fixed
sometime?)

I seem to be getting something  little weirder now though.  When I
compile
the sources seperately and then link them everything works fine, but
when I
try to compile and link everything in one call to dmd I'm getting that
multiply defines error on each of my modules.

I've seen/had this error when a module was missnamed i.e. [foo.d] module not_foo; changing it to [foo.d] module foo; fixes it, you might want to have a quick check that you don't have something like that. It may even be caused if the file is in the wrong directory i.e. [c:\d\projects\foo\bar\baz.d] module foo.not_bar.baz; Regan

I'm not using the module statement anywhere :(. Also, if it were a wrong directory issue, wouldn't I be getting the problem even when I compile the sources seperately?
Feb 14 2005
Derek Parnell <derek psych.ward> writes:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:30:35 -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote:

"Regan Heath" <regan netwin.co.nz> wrote in message
news:opsl7kmthn23k2f5 ally...
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:49:38 -0500, Nick Sabalausky <z a.a> wrote:
I've had a few problems with getting "module X is in multiply defined"
errors before and it usually turned out to be a cryptic way of saying
"you
need annother 'import' statement somewhere". (BTW, Is that going to be
fixed
sometime?)

I seem to be getting something  little weirder now though.  When I
compile
the sources seperately and then link them everything works fine, but
when I
try to compile and link everything in one call to dmd I'm getting that
multiply defines error on each of my modules.

I've seen/had this error when a module was missnamed i.e. [foo.d] module not_foo; changing it to [foo.d] module foo; fixes it, you might want to have a quick check that you don't have something like that. It may even be caused if the file is in the wrong directory i.e. [c:\d\projects\foo\bar\baz.d] module foo.not_bar.baz; Regan

I'm not using the module statement anywhere :(. Also, if it were a wrong directory issue, wouldn't I be getting the problem even when I compile the sources seperately?

I usually get this message when I do not use the module statement. In that case, DMD invents the module name for you, which is typically just the source file's name minus the path to the source file. And that's usually the problem - I need to path (read "package") name as well as the module name. Anyhow, I've learned to always explicitly place a module name in the file now, and to make sure it contains the complete package name too. Of course, this is PITA when you decide to move files around to different directories, but one doesn't do that too often (now, anyway). -- Derek Melbourne, Australia 15/02/2005 11:27:45 AM
Feb 14 2005
Mike Parker <aldacron71 yahoo.com> writes:
Derek Parnell wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:30:35 -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote:

Of course, this is PITA when you decide to move files around to different
directories, but one doesn't do that too often (now, anyway).

And it will become so much less of a PITA when we get a D IDE with a refactoring tool on par with what's out there for Java!
Feb 14 2005
Chris Sauls <ibisbasenji gmail.com> writes:
I'm personally dreaming of Borland releasing a DBuilder...

-- Chris S

Mike Parker wrote:
And it will become so much less of a PITA when we get a D IDE with a
refactoring tool on par with what's out there for Java!

Feb 14 2005
"Nick Sabalausky" <z a.a> writes:
"Derek Parnell" <derek psych.ward> wrote in message
news:1mayz93if5xd.xd6a5a6sct97$.dlg 40tude.net... On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:30:35 -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote: "Regan Heath" <regan netwin.co.nz> wrote in message news:opsl7kmthn23k2f5 ally... On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:49:38 -0500, Nick Sabalausky <z a.a> wrote: I've had a few problems with getting "module X is in multiply defined" errors before and it usually turned out to be a cryptic way of saying "you need annother 'import' statement somewhere". (BTW, Is that going to be fixed sometime?) I seem to be getting something little weirder now though. When I compile the sources seperately and then link them everything works fine, but when I try to compile and link everything in one call to dmd I'm getting that multiply defines error on each of my modules. I've seen/had this error when a module was missnamed i.e. [foo.d] module not_foo; changing it to [foo.d] module foo; fixes it, you might want to have a quick check that you don't have something like that. It may even be caused if the file is in the wrong directory i.e. [c:\d\projects\foo\bar\baz.d] module foo.not_bar.baz; Regan I'm not using the module statement anywhere :(. Also, if it were a wrong directory issue, wouldn't I be getting the problem even when I compile the sources seperately? I usually get this message when I do not use the module statement. In that case, DMD invents the module name for you, which is typically just the source file's name minus the path to the source file. And that's usually the problem - I need to path (read "package") name as well as the module name. Anyhow, I've learned to always explicitly place a module name in the file now, and to make sure it contains the complete package name too. Of course, this is PITA when you decide to move files around to different directories, but one doesn't do that too often (now, anyway). -- Derek Melbourne, Australia 15/02/2005 11:27:45 AM Yay! That worked! :) But, I'm not sure I understand why it was having a problem when I didn't explicity state the module. From working with the DMD compiler, this is how I understand things: Lets say I have a directory "C:\src\package\foo\" that contains the files "main.d" and "mymodule.d". Neither contain a module statement, and "main.d" needs to import the mymodule stuff. If I'm in the directory "C:\src\package\foo\" when I invoke DMD, then the import statement in "main.d" should be "import mymodule;". However, if I'm in the directory "C:\src\" when I invoke DMD, then the line in "main.d" should be "import package.foo.mymodule;". Hence, when I'm invoking from "C:\src\", doesn't DMD assume the name for the mymodule stuff to be "package.foo.mymodule" and not just "mymodule"? (And I realize, of course, that I could just pass the compiler "-I{dir}" instead of actually being in the given directory.) Hmm, I think I might understand this...tell me if this is correct: Again, assume the same files and directory structure as before and that we're always invoking from "C:\src\" (Or that we're passing in "-IC:\src\"). When the compiler is told to compile "package\foo\mymodule.d" it strips out the path and names the module "mymodule". When the compiler parses "package\foo\main.d", it reads the line "import package.foo.mymodule;" and decides that it needs a module named "package.foo.mymodule". It then looks inside "package\foo\", finds the file "package\foo\mymodule.d", and then finishes compiling "package\foo\main.d". Then, when it's compiling "package\foo\mymodule.d" it strips out the path and names the module simply "mymodule". So basically, main.d is referencing the module "package.foo.mymodule" and mymodule.d is essentially referencing the module "mymodule". Thus we have a conflict between "package.foo.mymodule" and "mymodule". Is this correct? If so, then shouldn't the compiler *not* strip the path? Feb 14 2005 Derek Parnell <derek psych.ward> writes: On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:22:14 -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote: "Derek Parnell" <derek psych.ward> wrote in message news:1mayz93if5xd.xd6a5a6sct97$.dlg 40tude.net...
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:30:35 -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote:

"Regan Heath" <regan netwin.co.nz> wrote in message
news:opsl7kmthn23k2f5 ally...
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:49:38 -0500, Nick Sabalausky <z a.a> wrote:
I've had a few problems with getting "module X is in multiply defined"
errors before and it usually turned out to be a cryptic way of saying
"you
need annother 'import' statement somewhere". (BTW, Is that going to be
fixed
sometime?)

I seem to be getting something  little weirder now though.  When I
compile
the sources seperately and then link them everything works fine, but
when I
try to compile and link everything in one call to dmd I'm getting that
multiply defines error on each of my modules.

I've seen/had this error when a module was missnamed i.e. [foo.d] module not_foo; changing it to [foo.d] module foo; fixes it, you might want to have a quick check that you don't have something like that. It may even be caused if the file is in the wrong directory i.e. [c:\d\projects\foo\bar\baz.d] module foo.not_bar.baz; Regan

I'm not using the module statement anywhere :(. Also, if it were a wrong directory issue, wouldn't I be getting the problem even when I compile the sources seperately?

I usually get this message when I do not use the module statement. In that case, DMD invents the module name for you, which is typically just the source file's name minus the path to the source file. And that's usually the problem - I need to path (read "package") name as well as the module name. Anyhow, I've learned to always explicitly place a module name in the file now, and to make sure it contains the complete package name too. Of course, this is PITA when you decide to move files around to different directories, but one doesn't do that too often (now, anyway). -- Derek Melbourne, Australia 15/02/2005 11:27:45 AM

Yay! That worked! :) But, I'm not sure I understand why it was having a problem when I didn't explicity state the module. From working with the DMD compiler, this is how I understand things: Lets say I have a directory "C:\src\package\foo\" that contains the files "main.d" and "mymodule.d". Neither contain a module statement, and "main.d" needs to import the mymodule stuff. If I'm in the directory "C:\src\package\foo\" when I invoke DMD, then the import statement in "main.d" should be "import mymodule;". However, if I'm in the directory "C:\src\" when I invoke DMD, then the line in "main.d" should be "import package.foo.mymodule;". Hence, when I'm invoking from "C:\src\", doesn't DMD assume the name for the mymodule stuff to be "package.foo.mymodule" and not just "mymodule"? (And I realize, of course, that I could just pass the compiler "-I{dir}" instead of actually being in the given directory.) Hmm, I think I might understand this...tell me if this is correct: Again, assume the same files and directory structure as before and that we're always invoking from "C:\src\" (Or that we're passing in "-IC:\src\"). When the compiler is told to compile "package\foo\mymodule.d" it strips out the path and names the module "mymodule". When the compiler parses "package\foo\main.d", it reads the line "import package.foo.mymodule;" and decides that it needs a module named "package.foo.mymodule". It then looks inside "package\foo\", finds the file "package\foo\mymodule.d", and then finishes compiling "package\foo\main.d". Then, when it's compiling "package\foo\mymodule.d" it strips out the path and names the module simply "mymodule". So basically, main.d is referencing the module "package.foo.mymodule" and mymodule.d is essentially referencing the module "mymodule". Thus we have a conflict between "package.foo.mymodule" and "mymodule". Is this correct? If so, then shouldn't the compiler *not* strip the path?

Use the -op switch of the dmd commandline. That might help you too. -- Derek Melbourne, Australia 15/02/2005 2:29:25 PM
Feb 14 2005
"Nick Sabalausky" <z a.a> writes:
I usually get this message when I do not use the module statement. In
that
case, DMD invents the module name for you, which is typically just the
source file's name minus the path to the source file. And that's usually
the problem - I need to path (read "package") name as well as the module
name.
Anyhow, I've learned to always explicitly place a module name in the
file
now, and to make sure it contains the complete package name too.

Of course, this is PITA when you decide to move files around to
different
directories, but one doesn't do that too often (now, anyway).

--
Derek
Melbourne, Australia
15/02/2005 11:27:45 AM

Yay! That worked! :) But, I'm not sure I understand why it was having a problem when I didn't explicity state the module. From working with the DMD compiler, this is how I understand things: Lets say I have a directory "C:\src\package\foo\" that contains the files "main.d" and "mymodule.d". Neither contain a module statement, and "main.d" needs to import the mymodule stuff. If I'm in the directory "C:\src\package\foo\" when I invoke DMD, then the import statement in "main.d" should be "import mymodule;". However, if I'm in the directory "C:\src\" when I invoke DMD, then the line in "main.d" should be "import package.foo.mymodule;". Hence, when I'm invoking from "C:\src\", doesn't DMD assume the name for the mymodule stuff to be "package.foo.mymodule" and not just "mymodule"? (And I realize, of course, that I could just pass the compiler "-I{dir}" instead of actually being in the given directory.) Hmm, I think I might understand this...tell me if this is correct: Again, assume the same files and directory structure as before and that we're always invoking from "C:\src\" (Or that we're passing in "-IC:\src\"). When the compiler is told to compile "package\foo\mymodule.d" it strips out the path and names the module "mymodule". When the compiler parses "package\foo\main.d", it reads the line "import package.foo.mymodule;" and decides that it needs a module named "package.foo.mymodule". It then looks inside "package\foo\", finds the file "package\foo\mymodule.d", and then finishes compiling "package\foo\main.d". Then, when it's compiling "package\foo\mymodule.d" it strips out the path and names the module simply "mymodule". So basically, main.d is referencing the module "package.foo.mymodule" and mymodule.d is essentially referencing the module "mymodule". Thus we have a conflict between "package.foo.mymodule" and "mymodule". Is this correct? If so, then shouldn't the compiler *not* strip the path?

Use the -op switch of the dmd commandline. That might help you too. -- Derek Melbourne, Australia 15/02/2005 2:29:25 PM

That doesn't seem to help. The only difference that seemed to make was it put the object files in the current directory instead of the source's directory.
Feb 14 2005
"Nick Sabalausky" <z a.a> writes:
Yay! That worked! :) But, I'm not sure I understand why it was having a
problem when I didn't explicity state the module.

From working with the DMD compiler, this is how I understand things:
Lets
say I have a directory "C:\src\package\foo\" that contains the files
"main.d" and "mymodule.d". Neither contain a module statement, and
"main.d"
needs to import the mymodule stuff. If I'm in the directory
"C:\src\package\foo\" when I invoke DMD, then the import statement in
"main.d" should be "import mymodule;".  However, if I'm in the directory
"C:\src\" when I invoke DMD, then the line in "main.d" should be "import
package.foo.mymodule;".  Hence, when I'm invoking from "C:\src\",
doesn't
DMD assume the name for the mymodule stuff to be "package.foo.mymodule"
and
not just "mymodule"? (And I realize, of course, that I could just pass
the
compiler "-I{dir}" instead of actually being in the given directory.)

Hmm, I think I might understand this...tell me if this is correct:
Again,
assume the same files and directory structure as before and that we're
always invoking from "C:\src\" (Or that we're passing in "-IC:\src\").
When
the compiler is told to compile "package\foo\mymodule.d" it strips out
the
path and names the module "mymodule". When the compiler parses
"package\foo\main.d", it reads the line "import package.foo.mymodule;"
and
decides that it needs a module named "package.foo.mymodule". It then
looks
inside "package\foo\", finds the file "package\foo\mymodule.d", and then
finishes compiling "package\foo\main.d". Then, when it's compiling
"package\foo\mymodule.d" it strips out the path and names the module
simply
"mymodule". So basically, main.d is referencing the module
"package.foo.mymodule" and mymodule.d is essentially referencing the
module
"mymodule". Thus we have a conflict between "package.foo.mymodule" and
"mymodule".

Is this correct? If so, then shouldn't the compiler *not* strip the
path?

Use the -op switch of the dmd commandline. That might help you too. -- Derek Melbourne, Australia 15/02/2005 2:29:25 PM

That doesn't seem to help. The only difference that seemed to make was it put the object files in the current directory instead of the source's directory.

Looks like -op isn't supposed to affect module names. Accourding to the docs (http://www.digitalmars.com/d/dcompiler.html): "-op normally the path for .d source files is stripped off when generating an object file name. -op will leave it on." And according to various parts of this page (http://www.digitalmars.com/d/module.html) it's definately supposed to be chopping off the path, as it currently does. It would be nice if it could leave the path for the module names as well. But I'm getting the feeling that there's something I'm not understanding quite right, because I doubt Walter would have intentionally chosen to strip the path from the default module names without a good reason. Maybe the module conflicts are just some sort of obscure bug (Or maybe I'm doing something totally wrong). I'll try to play around with this some more tomorrow.
Feb 14 2005
"Regan Heath" <regan netwin.co.nz> writes:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:22:14 -0500, Nick Sabalausky <z a.a> wrote:
"Derek Parnell" <derek psych.ward> wrote in message
news:1mayz93if5xd.xd6a5a6sct97\$.dlg 40tude.net...
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:30:35 -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote:

"Regan Heath" <regan netwin.co.nz> wrote in message
news:opsl7kmthn23k2f5 ally...
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:49:38 -0500, Nick Sabalausky <z a.a> wrote:
I've had a few problems with getting "module X is in multiply
defined"
errors before and it usually turned out to be a cryptic way of saying
"you
need annother 'import' statement somewhere". (BTW, Is that going to
be
fixed
sometime?)

I seem to be getting something  little weirder now though.  When I
compile
the sources seperately and then link them everything works fine, but
when I
try to compile and link everything in one call to dmd I'm getting
that
multiply defines error on each of my modules.

I've seen/had this error when a module was missnamed i.e. [foo.d] module not_foo; changing it to [foo.d] module foo; fixes it, you might want to have a quick check that you don't have something like that. It may even be caused if the file is in the wrong directory i.e. [c:\d\projects\foo\bar\baz.d] module foo.not_bar.baz; Regan

I'm not using the module statement anywhere :(. Also, if it were a wrong directory issue, wouldn't I be getting the problem even when I compile the sources seperately?

I usually get this message when I do not use the module statement. In that case, DMD invents the module name for you, which is typically just the source file's name minus the path to the source file. And that's usually the problem - I need to path (read "package") name as well as the module name. Anyhow, I've learned to always explicitly place a module name in the file now, and to make sure it contains the complete package name too. Of course, this is PITA when you decide to move files around to different directories, but one doesn't do that too often (now, anyway). -- Derek Melbourne, Australia 15/02/2005 11:27:45 AM

Yay! That worked! :) But, I'm not sure I understand why it was having a problem when I didn't explicity state the module. From working with the DMD compiler, this is how I understand things: Lets say I have a directory "C:\src\package\foo\" that contains the files "main.d" and "mymodule.d". Neither contain a module statement, and "main.d" needs to import the mymodule stuff. If I'm in the directory "C:\src\package\foo\" when I invoke DMD, then the import statement in "main.d" should be "import mymodule;". However, if I'm in the directory "C:\src\" when I invoke DMD, then the line in "main.d" should be "import package.foo.mymodule;". Hence, when I'm invoking from "C:\src\", doesn't DMD assume the name for the mymodule stuff to be "package.foo.mymodule" and not just "mymodule"? (And I realize, of course, that I could just pass the compiler "-I{dir}" instead of actually being in the given directory.) Hmm, I think I might understand this...tell me if this is correct: Again, assume the same files and directory structure as before and that we're always invoking from "C:\src\" (Or that we're passing in "-IC:\src\"). When the compiler is told to compile "package\foo\mymodule.d" it strips out the path and names the module "mymodule". When the compiler parses "package\foo\main.d", it reads the line "import package.foo.mymodule;" and decides that it needs a module named "package.foo.mymodule". It then looks inside "package\foo\", finds the file "package\foo\mymodule.d", and then finishes compiling "package\foo\main.d". Then, when it's compiling "package\foo\mymodule.d" it strips out the path and names the module simply "mymodule". So basically, main.d is referencing the module "package.foo.mymodule" and mymodule.d is essentially referencing the module "mymodule". Thus we have a conflict between "package.foo.mymodule" and "mymodule". Is this correct? If so, then shouldn't the compiler *not* strip the path?

I think the best person to answer this is Walter, with a description of how the module system works... unless of course it already exists in the documentation? http://www.digitalmars.com/d/module.html those docs don't seem to explain the behaviour you saw, perhaps you found a bug? Regan
Feb 14 2005
"Jarrett Billingsley" <kb3ctd2 yahoo.com> writes:
I think the best person to answer this is Walter, with a description of
how the module system works... unless of course it already exists in the
documentation?
those docs don't seem to explain the behaviour you saw, perhaps you found
a bug?

I swear I'm invisible. I posted a rather long post on this issue (as well as some other module issues) back on January 24th. The only response I got was two people talking about something offtopic and Walter basically not understanding what I posted, to which I pretty much had to re-explain everything to him. Since then I've seen several topics about the very things I posted, and they all get way more attention than my thread ever did. If Walter DOES in fact reply to this thread with an explanation of the current module system and a vow to fix it, I will scream.
Feb 15 2005
"Regan Heath" <regan netwin.co.nz> writes:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:22:36 -0500, Jarrett Billingsley
<kb3ctd2 yahoo.com> wrote:
I think the best person to answer this is Walter, with a description of
how the module system works... unless of course it already exists in the
documentation?
those docs don't seem to explain the behaviour you saw, perhaps you
found
a bug?

I swear I'm invisible. I posted a rather long post on this issue (as well as some other module issues) back on January 24th. The only response I got was two people talking about something offtopic and Walter basically not understanding what I posted, to which I pretty much had to re-explain everything to him. Since then I've seen several topics about the very things I posted, and they all get way more attention than my thread ever did. If Walter DOES in fact reply to this thread with an explanation of the current module system and a vow to fix it, I will scream.

I remember your post. Long posts can be ignored due to the effort involved in reading and understanding them. This post was long, to tell the truth I didn't bother to read it all because at face value it sounds like a case of un-documented behaviour which isn't obvious to see at all. The only solution to which is to document or explain it, and the best person to do so is Walter. Regan
Feb 15 2005