• Bernhard Emese <Bernhard_member pathlink.com> Oct 08 2003
• "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> Oct 08 2003
• Heinz Saathoff <hsaat bre.ipnet.de> Oct 09 2003
• "Kar Gay Lim" <kagay kimay.net> Oct 09 2003
• Bernhard Emese <Bernhard_member pathlink.com> Oct 10 2003
• "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> Oct 10 2003
• Bernhard Emese <Bernhard_member pathlink.com> Oct 13 2003
• "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> Oct 13 2003
• Bernhard Emese <Bernhard_member pathlink.com> Oct 14 2003

Bernhard Emese <Bernhard_member pathlink.com> writes:

Hello!
In the late 80th I bought the Zortech Compiler and used it a long time to
compile X32 Dos Extender programs. Later I bought Symantec 6.0 and used it the
same way. Now some days ago I bought Digital Mars, also giving my tribute to
this wonderful compilers in buying the newest version. I still compile projects
which dont use the windows operation system. My selfwritten libraries have
enough features to stand alone without windows (only the problem of printing
without printer drivers will probably never be solved).
For debugging I use the Flashtec FlashView Debugger. For assembler modules I use
MASM.
Now I found that the compiler scppn.exe cannot be run under DOS. It  can only be
started in a WIN98 DOS Box. But my Debugger fv.exe cannot be run in a DOS Box,
it needs normal DOS Mode to execute, the same is with MASM. So debugging after
compiling is nearly impossible. What I need are executables, Compiler
(scppx.exe) and Linker (link386.exe) etc, which can be run in DOS Mode. Or can
you tell me, is there a debugger and assembler for X32 available which runs in a
Windows DOS Box. Can You give me advice how I can work with DM compiling and
debugging my X32 projects. 


Thank you very much
Bernhard Emese

"Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> writes:

"Bernhard Emese" <Bernhard_member pathlink.com> wrote in message
news:bm0h01$270$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Hello!
 In the late 80th I bought the Zortech Compiler and used it a long time to
 compile X32 Dos Extender programs. Later I bought Symantec 6.0 and used it


 same way. Now some days ago I bought Digital Mars, also giving my tribute


 this wonderful compilers in buying the newest version. I still compile


 which dont use the windows operation system. My selfwritten libraries have
 enough features to stand alone without windows (only the problem of


 without printer drivers will probably never be solved).
 For debugging I use the Flashtec FlashView Debugger. For assembler modules


 MASM.
 Now I found that the compiler scppn.exe cannot be run under DOS. It  can


 started in a WIN98 DOS Box. But my Debugger fv.exe cannot be run in a DOS


 it needs normal DOS Mode to execute, the same is with MASM. So debugging


 compiling is nearly impossible. What I need are executables, Compiler
 (scppx.exe) and Linker (link386.exe) etc, which can be run in DOS Mode. Or


 you tell me, is there a debugger and assembler for X32 available which


 Windows DOS Box. Can You give me advice how I can work with DM compiling


 debugging my X32 projects.


 Thank you very much
 Bernhard Emese


The easiest way to do it is to debug the program as a win32 application.
Then, port it to X32, that will minimize the debugging. The best way to
proceed with that is to compile/link on one machine, copy the exe to a
floppy, and read it on your DOS machine to debug it. It's tedious, but
workable.

Heinz Saathoff <hsaat bre.ipnet.de> writes:

Walter schrieb...
 
 The easiest way to do it is to debug the program as a win32 application.
 Then, port it to X32, that will minimize the debugging. The best way to
 proceed with that is to compile/link on one machine, copy the exe to a
 floppy, and read it on your DOS machine to debug it. It's tedious, but
 workable.


Or have a DOS machine connected via network. Compile on the Win machine, 
debug on the DOS machine.
I don't use the debugger but test my X32 app this way.

- Heinz

"Kar Gay Lim" <kagay kimay.net> writes:

Heinz Saathoff <hsaat bre.ipnet.de> wrote in message
news:MPG.19ef34831c6b727c9896d4 news.digitalmars.com...
 Walter schrieb...
 The easiest way to do it is to debug the program as a win32 application.
 Then, port it to X32, that will minimize the debugging. The best way to
 proceed with that is to compile/link on one machine, copy the exe to a
 floppy, and read it on your DOS machine to debug it. It's tedious, but
 workable.


 Or have a DOS machine connected via network. Compile on the Win machine,
 debug on the DOS machine.
 I don't use the debugger but test my X32 app this way.

 - Heinz


And good old Laplink III for DOS still do wonders; or even Kermit.

Bernhard Emese <Bernhard_member pathlink.com> writes:

The easiest way to do it is to debug the program as a win32 application.
Then, port it to X32, that will minimize the debugging. The best way to
proceed with that is to compile/link on one machine, copy the exe to a
floppy, and read it on your DOS machine to debug it. It's tedious, but
workable.


Unfortunately most of my applications are complex graphic applications which
cannot be run as win32 applications. As I see now, the best for me is to use the
scppx.exe compiler from symantec 6.0, which obviously was the last compiler,
which allowed DOS32 compiling and debugging together with Flashteks debugger.

Thanks for your replies
Bernhard Emese

"Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> writes:

"Bernhard Emese" <Bernhard_member pathlink.com> wrote in message
news:bm6dht$fmg$1 digitaldaemon.com...
The easiest way to do it is to debug the program as a win32 application.
Then, port it to X32, that will minimize the debugging. The best way to
proceed with that is to compile/link on one machine, copy the exe to a
floppy, and read it on your DOS machine to debug it. It's tedious, but
workable.


 Unfortunately most of my applications are complex graphic applications


 cannot be run as win32 applications. As I see now, the best for me is to


 scppx.exe compiler from symantec 6.0, which obviously was the last


 which allowed DOS32 compiling and debugging together with Flashteks



Why not use the scppx from symantec 7.5?

Bernhard Emese <Bernhard_member pathlink.com> writes:

Why not use the scppx from symantec 7.5?


Its some years ago, when I tried to upgrade from Symantec 6.0 to 7.5 and I
remember that I had difficulties in creating X32 Applications and debugging, but
I dont remember exactly what difficulties. Sorry. Is 7.5 much better than 6.0
concerning X32 applications?


Bernhard Emese

"Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> writes:

"Bernhard Emese" <Bernhard_member pathlink.com> wrote in message
news:bmeh07$2836$1 digitaldaemon.com...
Why not use the scppx from symantec 7.5?


 Its some years ago, when I tried to upgrade from Symantec 6.0 to 7.5 and I
 remember that I had difficulties in creating X32 Applications and


 I dont remember exactly what difficulties. Sorry. Is 7.5 much better than


 concerning X32 applications?


I think it's about the same.

Bernhard Emese <Bernhard_member pathlink.com> writes:

In article <bmf4kn$85$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
"Bernhard Emese" <Bernhard_member pathlink.com> wrote in message
news:bmeh07$2836$1 digitaldaemon.com...
Why not use the scppx from symantec 7.5?


 Its some years ago, when I tried to upgrade from Symantec 6.0 to 7.5 and I
 remember that I had difficulties in creating X32 Applications and


 I dont remember exactly what difficulties. Sorry. Is 7.5 much better than


 concerning X32 applications?


I think it's about the same.



Bernhard Emese