• "Javier Gutiérrez" <nikkho NOSPAM hotmail.com> Sep 05 2002
• Roland <rv ronetech.com> Sep 06 2002
• "Javier Gutiérrez" <nikkho NOSPAM hotmail.com> Sep 06 2002
• Roland <rv ronetech.com> Sep 06 2002
• "Javier Gutiérrez" <nikkho NOSPAM hotmail.com> Sep 06 2002
• Roland <rv ronetech.com> Sep 10 2002
• "Javier Gutiérrez" <nikkho nospam.hotmail.com> Sep 11 2002

    I want to inform the group that  I have been able to use the Zinc
Interface Library 3.0 with DMC 8.29 using the Zortech C++ 3.0 libraries
included.

    I have been able to compile all the tutorial and the samples, and also
some tests I have written.

    Unfortunatelly this version of ZIL only support real mode applications,
which limites a lot its utility.

    As far as I know, Zinc Application Framework 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2 also
supports protected mode applications, but I have been unable to get it.

"Javier Gutiérrez" a écrit :

     I want to inform the group that  I have been able to use the Zinc
 Interface Library 3.0 with DMC 8.29 using the Zortech C++ 3.0 libraries
 included.

     I have been able to compile all the tutorial and the samples, and also
 some tests I have written.

     Unfortunatelly this version of ZIL only support real mode applications,
 which limites a lot its utility.

     As far as I know, Zinc Application Framework 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2 also
 supports protected mode applications, but I have been unable to get it.


There is the sources isn't it ?
If yes, i will try to have a look on it.
Changing it so that it works with DOSX may not be a big deal.
Just it can take some time ..

roland

    Yes, there are the sources available. You can get it at ftp.jak.nl


"Roland" <rv ronetech.com> escribió en el mensaje
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 "Javier Gutiérrez" a écrit :

     I want to inform the group that  I have been able to use the Zinc
 Interface Library 3.0 with DMC 8.29 using the Zortech C++ 3.0 libraries
 included.

     I have been able to compile all the tutorial and the samples, and




 some tests I have written.

     Unfortunatelly this version of ZIL only support real mode




 which limites a lot its utility.

     As far as I know, Zinc Application Framework 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2 also
 supports protected mode applications, but I have been unable to get it.


 There is the sources isn't it ?
 If yes, i will try to have a look on it.
 Changing it so that it works with DOSX may not be a big deal.
 Just it can take some time ..

 roland

"Javier Gutiérrez" a écrit :

     Yes, there are the sources available. You can get it at ftp.jak.nl


got them.
just i have to copy them on a floppy to install and have a first look.
if you want to work to port zinc to DOSX here is some guidelines (sorry if you
already know them):
- find pointer calculation: there is no more segment on DOSX pointers, only
offset,
- find pointers returned by dos/bios: they are real mode pointers and need to
be converted.
most of those pointer are passed to/returned by int 21h (dos), int 10h (bios,
video, notably vesa), int 33h mouse.
also there must be somewhere a pointer on bios data area: 0x0040:0000 (real
mode addresse)
most of the work will be to find those pointer.
the good news is that if you forget one, it crash immédiately ..

roland







 "Roland" <rv ronetech.com> escribió en el mensaje
 news:3D7859B8.8F0EBAF9 ronetech.com...
 "Javier Gutiérrez" a écrit :

     I want to inform the group that  I have been able to use the Zinc
 Interface Library 3.0 with DMC 8.29 using the Zortech C++ 3.0 libraries
 included.

     I have been able to compile all the tutorial and the samples, and




 some tests I have written.

     Unfortunatelly this version of ZIL only support real mode




 which limites a lot its utility.

     As far as I know, Zinc Application Framework 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2 also
 supports protected mode applications, but I have been unable to get it.


 There is the sources isn't it ?
 If yes, i will try to have a look on it.
 Changing it so that it works with DOSX may not be a big deal.
 Just it can take some time ..

 roland

    Thank you.
    I will try to hack them a bit. At least, in the meanwhile I find version
4.x!

"Roland" <rv ronetech.com> escribió en el mensaje
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 "Javier Gutiérrez" a écrit :

     Yes, there are the sources available. You can get it at ftp.jak.nl


 got them.
 just i have to copy them on a floppy to install and have a first look.
 if you want to work to port zinc to DOSX here is some guidelines (sorry if


 already know them):
 - find pointer calculation: there is no more segment on DOSX pointers,


 offset,
 - find pointers returned by dos/bios: they are real mode pointers and need


 be converted.
 most of those pointer are passed to/returned by int 21h (dos), int 10h


 video, notably vesa), int 33h mouse.
 also there must be somewhere a pointer on bios data area: 0x0040:0000


 mode addresse)
 most of the work will be to find those pointer.
 the good news is that if you forget one, it crash immédiately ..

 roland







 "Roland" <rv ronetech.com> escribió en el mensaje
 news:3D7859B8.8F0EBAF9 ronetech.com...
 "Javier Gutiérrez" a écrit :

     I want to inform the group that  I have been able to use the








 Interface Library 3.0 with DMC 8.29 using the Zortech C++ 3.0








 included.

     I have been able to compile all the tutorial and the samples,








 also
 some tests I have written.

     Unfortunatelly this version of ZIL only support real mode




 which limites a lot its utility.

     As far as I know, Zinc Application Framework 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2








 supports protected mode applications, but I have been unable to get








 There is the sources isn't it ?
 If yes, i will try to have a look on it.
 Changing it so that it works with DOSX may not be a big deal.
 Just it can take some time ..

 roland

Roland a écrit :

 "Javier Gutiérrez" a écrit :

     Yes, there are the sources available. You can get it at ftp.jak.nl


 got them.
 just i have to copy them on a floppy to install and have a first look.
 if you want to work to port zinc to DOSX here is some guidelines (sorry if you
 already know them):
 - find pointer calculation: there is no more segment on DOSX pointers, only
 offset,
 - find pointers returned by dos/bios: they are real mode pointers and need to
 be converted.
 most of those pointer are passed to/returned by int 21h (dos), int 10h (bios,
 video, notably vesa), int 33h mouse.
 also there must be somewhere a pointer on bios data area: 0x0040:0000 (real
 mode addresse)
 most of the work will be to find those pointer.
 the good news is that if you forget one, it crash immédiately ..

 roland


i spend 2 hours on zinc.
not so easy it seems..

Javier, do you know where i can find a user manual ?

I would like DM can offer a kind of graphical library for DOS X.
sure i will have a deeper look on zinc.. in the future

roland

    Here http://www.windriver.com/zinc/html/agreement.html you can download
Zinc 5.3 and 6.0, which include an user manual, althought does not support
DOS.


"Roland" <rv ronetech.com> escribió en el mensaje
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 Roland a écrit :

 "Javier Gutiérrez" a écrit :

     Yes, there are the sources available. You can get it at ftp.jak.nl


 got them.
 just i have to copy them on a floppy to install and have a first look.
 if you want to work to port zinc to DOSX here is some guidelines (sorry




 already know them):
 - find pointer calculation: there is no more segment on DOSX pointers,




 offset,
 - find pointers returned by dos/bios: they are real mode pointers and




 be converted.
 most of those pointer are passed to/returned by int 21h (dos), int 10h




 video, notably vesa), int 33h mouse.
 also there must be somewhere a pointer on bios data area: 0x0040:0000




 mode addresse)
 most of the work will be to find those pointer.
 the good news is that if you forget one, it crash immédiately ..

 roland


 i spend 2 hours on zinc.
 not so easy it seems..

 Javier, do you know where i can find a user manual ?

 I would like DM can offer a kind of graphical library for DOS X.
 sure i will have a deeper look on zinc.. in the future

 roland