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reply "Steve Doherty" <steved_2k hotmail.com> writes:
Morning/afternoon/evening all,

I'm an experienced but rusty C programmer looking for an alternative to
Visual C++, so I can get up to speed on C++ (specifically Windows32 & MFC
variants). The DMC++ CD looks like exactly what I need, and I noticed there
are tutorials included on the CD.

Would these included tutorials assist me in

a) Learning C++ using my C knowledge as a foundation
b) Developing Win32 apps
c) Learning basic MFC concepts.

In the event the tutorials/documentation aren't that in-depth, what book or
books should I be looking at to complement the compiler?

Regards,
Steve
------
The man who conquers others is strong,
The man who conquers himself is mighty.
                      -- Lao Tzu
Oct 21 2002
next sibling parent Jan Knepper <jan smartsoft.us> writes:
Steve Doherty wrote:

 Morning/afternoon/evening all,

 I'm an experienced but rusty C programmer looking for an alternative to
 Visual C++, so I can get up to speed on C++ (specifically Windows32 & MFC
 variants). The DMC++ CD looks like exactly what I need, and I noticed there
 are tutorials included on the CD.

 Would these included tutorials assist me in

 a) Learning C++ using my C knowledge as a foundation

Not quite, get a C++ book on amazon.com for that.
 b) Developing Win32 apps

Yes.
 c) Learning basic MFC concepts.

Yes.
 In the event the tutorials/documentation aren't that in-depth, what book or
 books should I be looking at to complement the compiler?

Several, check amazon.com for the different subjects. Jan
Oct 21 2002
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Matthew Wilson" <dmd synesis.com.au> writes:
My opinions only

C++ - Stroustrup, Meyers and, when advanced a fair bit, Sutter. Also, since
all of those are either a bit advanced or a bit dry, subscribe to C/C++
User's Journal, http://cuj.com
MFC - the one and only Kruglinski's Inside Visual C++. I have version 4, and
it is still relevant. Also Code Project http://codeproject.com
COM - Inside OLE for the (very) brave; Essential COM for the experienced;
can't think of a good intro level one as COM is quite an undertaking for the
first couple of years
Win32 - Petzold and Richter. Also, subscribe to Windows Developer Magazine.
http://wd-mag.com/ This is by far the most accessible magazine in the
industry

"Steve Doherty" <steved_2k hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 Morning/afternoon/evening all,

 I'm an experienced but rusty C programmer looking for an alternative to
 Visual C++, so I can get up to speed on C++ (specifically Windows32 & MFC
 variants). The DMC++ CD looks like exactly what I need, and I noticed

 are tutorials included on the CD.

 Would these included tutorials assist me in

 a) Learning C++ using my C knowledge as a foundation
 b) Developing Win32 apps
 c) Learning basic MFC concepts.

 In the event the tutorials/documentation aren't that in-depth, what book

 books should I be looking at to complement the compiler?

 Regards,
 Steve
 ------
 The man who conquers others is strong,
 The man who conquers himself is mighty.
                       -- Lao Tzu

Oct 22 2002
parent reply "KarL" <someone somewhere.org> writes:
"Matthew Wilson" <dmd synesis.com.au> wrote in message
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 My opinions only

 http://wd-mag.com/ This is by far the most accessible magazine in the
 industry

My Opinion too: wd-mag has changed from a 5mm thick "Journal" to a 2mm thick magazine. Not much worth nowadays after Ron Burk departed.
Oct 22 2002
parent reply "Matthew Wilson" <dmd synesis.com.au> writes:
The tips are still good, and the occasional article.

However, maybe I'm biased, as I have had lots of Tips printed in it, and
have four articles coming up in the next 6 months. Feel free to give me your
opinion when they come out ...

Certainly agree with you on the size issue, and that it is a shame.


"KarL" <someone somewhere.org> wrote in message
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 "Matthew Wilson" <dmd synesis.com.au> wrote in message
 news:ap2u3e$4ao$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 My opinions only

 http://wd-mag.com/ This is by far the most accessible magazine in the
 industry

My Opinion too: wd-mag has changed from a 5mm thick "Journal" to a 2mm thick magazine.

 much worth nowadays after Ron Burk departed.

Oct 22 2002
parent reply "KarL" <someone somewhere.org> writes:
"Matthew Wilson" <dmd synesis.com.au> wrote in message
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 The tips are still good, and the occasional article.

 However, maybe I'm biased, as I have had lots of Tips printed in it, and
 have four articles coming up in the next 6 months. Feel free to give me

 opinion when they come out ...

My subscriptions run out this month and I don't intend to renew it. I'll see what I can read from the Net what it comes out....
 Certainly agree with you on the size issue, and that it is a shame.

This is the unfortunate thing with the mag sold to CMP. CMP is good at taking a good legendary publication and screw it up altogether. The most classical example is BYTE!!! Now they are stuffing up WDJ. Next CUJ? Just my biased opinion...
Oct 23 2002
parent reply "Matthew Wilson" <dmd synesis.com.au> writes:
"KarL" <someone somewhere.org> wrote in message
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 "Matthew Wilson" <dmd synesis.com.au> wrote in message
 news:ap36ep$d77$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 The tips are still good, and the occasional article.

 However, maybe I'm biased, as I have had lots of Tips printed in it, and
 have four articles coming up in the next 6 months. Feel free to give me

 opinion when they come out ...

My subscriptions run out this month and I don't intend to renew it. I'll see what I can read from the Net what it comes out....

They let you join windevnet.com for free, and then you can access most material online.
 Certainly agree with you on the size issue, and that it is a shame.

This is the unfortunate thing with the mag sold to CMP. CMP is good at taking a good legendary publication and screw it up altogether. The most classical example is BYTE!!! Now they are stuffing up WDJ. Next CUJ?

I'd be *very* unhappy if that happened!
 Just my biased opinion...

Oct 31 2002
parent "KarL" <someone somewhere.org> writes:
"Matthew Wilson" <dmd synesis.com.au> wrote in message
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 They let you join windevnet.com for free, and then you can access most
 material online.

And getting big purple T-shirt if you contribute something? :-) I still wear my purple WDJ T-shirt sometimes...
 The most classical example is BYTE!!!  Now they are stuffing up WDJ.
 Next CUJ?

I'd be *very* unhappy if that happened!

The problem is Microsoft is now publishing MSDN magazine..... Unless one is developing on "other" OS, you cannot afford not to read MSDN stuff. Down under, we don't have much in the MS arena but on Linux side, there's plenty of developers though. Samba and SSLeay are locals...
Oct 31 2002
prev sibling parent user domain.invalid writes:
For a jumpstart C++ buy:
"Accelerated C++" by Andrew Koenig en Barbara Moo ISBN 0-201-70353-X

And for a complete c++ book buy Stroustrup's "The C++ Programming 
Language"


 Morning/afternoon/evening all,

 I'm an experienced but rusty C programmer looking for an 
 alternative to
 Visual C++, so I can get up to speed on C++ (specifically 
 Windows32 & MFC
 variants). The DMC++ CD looks like exactly what I need, and I 
 noticed there
 are tutorials included on the CD.

 Would these included tutorials assist me in

 a) Learning C++ using my C knowledge as a foundation
 b) Developing Win32 apps
 c) Learning basic MFC concepts.

 In the event the tutorials/documentation aren't that in-depth, 
 what book or
 books should I be looking at to complement the compiler?

 Regards,
 Steve
 ------
 The man who conquers others is strong,
 The man who conquers himself is mighty.
                       -- Lao Tzu

Oct 22 2002