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reply "Rajiv Bhagwat" <dataflow vsnl.com> writes:
It is becoming annoying to click and check each NG for newer messages, as
the OE continues to display wrong 'unread messages' on the DigitalMars news
server.

Consider c++.stl.hp group ... this has no messages inside, still the
newsreader shows '16'. It reappears even after 'catching up' - this means it
is sent by the server. Even after considering the fact that OE might have a
goofup in its logic, why should the server send this number '16'? This
indicates that the message pruning and reindexing on the server also has a
goofup....

How about checking the server and ensuring that it does not send incorrect
info to OE? In the worst case restore the unpruned messages??

- Rajiv
Nov 27 2003
parent reply Cesar Rabak <csrabak ig.com.br> writes:
FWIW this behaviour is the same for the Netscape 7.0 newsreader. . .


Rajiv Bhagwat escreveu:
 It is becoming annoying to click and check each NG for newer messages, as
 the OE continues to display wrong 'unread messages' on the DigitalMars news
 server.
 
 Consider c++.stl.hp group ... this has no messages inside, still the
 newsreader shows '16'. It reappears even after 'catching up' - this means it
 is sent by the server. Even after considering the fact that OE might have a
 goofup in its logic, why should the server send this number '16'? This
 indicates that the message pruning and reindexing on the server also has a
 goofup....
 
 How about checking the server and ensuring that it does not send incorrect
 info to OE? In the worst case restore the unpruned messages??
 
 - Rajiv
 
 

-- Cesar Rabak GNU/Linux User 52247. Get counted: http://counter.li.org/
Nov 28 2003
parent reply "Matthew Wilson" <matthew.hat stlsoft.dot.org> writes:
It's worth a lot. Jan has been telling us that this is purely an artefact of
Outlook or Outlook Express.

I'd very much welcome a resolution to this, since it is very tiresome to go
through the process that Rajiv describes.

btw, has anyone else noticed a dramatic drop in newsgroup postings since
this problem's been present? I wonder what the stats are on it? It can't be
good for Digital Mars commercially ...

:(

Matthew


 FWIW this behaviour is the same for the Netscape 7.0 newsreader. . .


 Rajiv Bhagwat escreveu:
 It is becoming annoying to click and check each NG for newer messages,


 the OE continues to display wrong 'unread messages' on the DigitalMars


 server.

 Consider c++.stl.hp group ... this has no messages inside, still the
 newsreader shows '16'. It reappears even after 'catching up' - this


 is sent by the server. Even after considering the fact that OE might


 goofup in its logic, why should the server send this number '16'? This
 indicates that the message pruning and reindexing on the server also has


 goofup....

 How about checking the server and ensuring that it does not send


 info to OE? In the worst case restore the unpruned messages??

 - Rajiv

-- Cesar Rabak GNU/Linux User 52247. Get counted: http://counter.li.org/

Nov 30 2003
next sibling parent "Rajiv Bhagwat" <dataflow vsnl.com> writes:
We are well aware of the wonderful support Jan has been providing for these
newsgroups, but I guess he is simply unaware of the large number of people
affected and annoyed by this.
- Rajiv


"Matthew Wilson" <matthew.hat stlsoft.dot.org> wrote in message
news:bqeh21$2foc$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 It's worth a lot. Jan has been telling us that this is purely an artefact

 Outlook or Outlook Express.

 I'd very much welcome a resolution to this, since it is very tiresome to

 through the process that Rajiv describes.

 btw, has anyone else noticed a dramatic drop in newsgroup postings since
 this problem's been present? I wonder what the stats are on it? It can't

 good for Digital Mars commercially ...

 :(

 Matthew


 FWIW this behaviour is the same for the Netscape 7.0 newsreader. . .


 Rajiv Bhagwat escreveu:
 It is becoming annoying to click and check each NG for newer messages,


 the OE continues to display wrong 'unread messages' on the DigitalMars


 server.

 Consider c++.stl.hp group ... this has no messages inside, still the
 newsreader shows '16'. It reappears even after 'catching up' - this


 is sent by the server. Even after considering the fact that OE might


 goofup in its logic, why should the server send this number '16'? This
 indicates that the message pruning and reindexing on the server also



 a
 goofup....

 How about checking the server and ensuring that it does not send


 info to OE? In the worst case restore the unpruned messages??

 - Rajiv

-- Cesar Rabak GNU/Linux User 52247. Get counted: http://counter.li.org/


Nov 30 2003
prev sibling next sibling parent Jan Knepper <jan smartsoft.us> writes:
Matthew Wilson wrote:
 It's worth a lot. Jan has been telling us that this is purely an artefact of
 Outlook or Outlook Express.

Well, that is the only news reader I have seen the problems with. I have been searching on how to reset the articles counts in INN, but have not find a conclusive answer.
 I'd very much welcome a resolution to this, since it is very tiresome to go
 through the process that Rajiv describes.

Write M$
 btw, has anyone else noticed a dramatic drop in newsgroup postings since
 this problem's been present? I wonder what the stats are on it? It can't be
 good for Digital Mars commercially ...

I have not noticed a dramatic drop in newsgroup postings. In the past there always have been days without any postings. Jan
Dec 01 2003
prev sibling parent "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> writes:
"Matthew Wilson" <matthew.hat stlsoft.dot.org> wrote in message
news:bqeh21$2foc$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 btw, has anyone else noticed a dramatic drop in newsgroup postings since
 this problem's been present? I wonder what the stats are on it? It can't

 good for Digital Mars commercially ...

I just saw 50 new messages appear in the D group in the space of 3 hours. I'm never going to catch up!
Dec 01 2003