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reply "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> writes:
Just got back. I can sum up in one word - Wow! I sure did have a good time.
There was a large cross section of who's who in C++ there teaching seminars
that I got to talk to, including Bjarne Stroustrup, Scott Meyers, Andrei
Alexandrescu, Bruce Eckel, Chuck Allison, Ken Puch, Dan Saks, Herb Sutter,
Bill Venners, Allen Holub, Richard Hale Shaw, and Leor Zolman.

I presented a tutorial on D, and was rewarded with a packed SRO house. I
think many of the attendees were surprised at the level of interest in D!
Lots of insightful questions got asked during the tutorial, which means that
D is readilly understandable by anyone with a good grasp of C++ (or that the
people attending were really smart, which I think is also true).

The tutorial was preceded and succeeded by many bull sessions with various
people talking about D's potential and ideas for it. The language clearly
has struck a responsive chord in the C++ community, we're on the right track
and so it's full speed ahead!

I'll be putting the tutorial notes up later today, after I type them in (I
was the only presenter using handwritten viewfoils instead of powerpoint
<g>. Many people came up to me later and said they liked the viewfoils
better, as powerpoint slides tend to be a bit sterile.)

But it's good to be back, and my inbox is filled with the usual email, spam
and viruses <g>.

-Walter
Mar 18 2004
next sibling parent "Phill" <phill pacific.net.au> writes:
Well done!

Phill.

"Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> wrote in message
news:c3dafh$24f6$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Just got back. I can sum up in one word - Wow! I sure did have a good

 There was a large cross section of who's who in C++ there teaching

 that I got to talk to, including Bjarne Stroustrup, Scott Meyers, Andrei
 Alexandrescu, Bruce Eckel, Chuck Allison, Ken Puch, Dan Saks, Herb Sutter,
 Bill Venners, Allen Holub, Richard Hale Shaw, and Leor Zolman.

 I presented a tutorial on D, and was rewarded with a packed SRO house. I
 think many of the attendees were surprised at the level of interest in D!
 Lots of insightful questions got asked during the tutorial, which means

 D is readilly understandable by anyone with a good grasp of C++ (or that

 people attending were really smart, which I think is also true).

 The tutorial was preceded and succeeded by many bull sessions with various
 people talking about D's potential and ideas for it. The language clearly
 has struck a responsive chord in the C++ community, we're on the right

 and so it's full speed ahead!

 I'll be putting the tutorial notes up later today, after I type them in (I
 was the only presenter using handwritten viewfoils instead of powerpoint
 <g>. Many people came up to me later and said they liked the viewfoils
 better, as powerpoint slides tend to be a bit sterile.)

 But it's good to be back, and my inbox is filled with the usual email,

 and viruses <g>.

 -Walter

Mar 18 2004
prev sibling next sibling parent Ant <duitoolkit yahoo.ca> writes:
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:09:41 -0800, Walter wrote:

 Just got back. I can sum up in one word - Wow!

I thought I had nothing to say but I do: congratulations! Ant
Mar 18 2004
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Matthew" <matthew stlsoft.org> writes:
You've made a big splash with the C++ notables. They're all raving about it,
especially Leor Zolman, who has now made an STLFilt for DMC++, I understand

"Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> wrote in message
news:c3dafh$24f6$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Just got back. I can sum up in one word - Wow! I sure did have a good

 There was a large cross section of who's who in C++ there teaching

 that I got to talk to, including Bjarne Stroustrup, Scott Meyers, Andrei
 Alexandrescu, Bruce Eckel, Chuck Allison, Ken Puch, Dan Saks, Herb Sutter,
 Bill Venners, Allen Holub, Richard Hale Shaw, and Leor Zolman.

 I presented a tutorial on D, and was rewarded with a packed SRO house. I
 think many of the attendees were surprised at the level of interest in D!
 Lots of insightful questions got asked during the tutorial, which means

 D is readilly understandable by anyone with a good grasp of C++ (or that

 people attending were really smart, which I think is also true).

 The tutorial was preceded and succeeded by many bull sessions with various
 people talking about D's potential and ideas for it. The language clearly
 has struck a responsive chord in the C++ community, we're on the right

 and so it's full speed ahead!

 I'll be putting the tutorial notes up later today, after I type them in (I
 was the only presenter using handwritten viewfoils instead of powerpoint
 <g>. Many people came up to me later and said they liked the viewfoils
 better, as powerpoint slides tend to be a bit sterile.)

 But it's good to be back, and my inbox is filled with the usual email,

 and viruses <g>.

 -Walter

Mar 19 2004
parent "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> writes:
"Matthew" <matthew stlsoft.org> wrote in message
news:c3eebs$11d5$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 You've made a big splash with the C++ notables. They're all raving about

 especially Leor Zolman, who has now made an STLFilt for DMC++, I

I couldn't have asked for a better reception than I got at sdwest.
Mar 19 2004
prev sibling parent reply Mark T <Mark_member pathlink.com> writes:
In article <c3dafh$24f6$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
I'll be putting the tutorial notes up later today, after I type them in (I
was the only presenter using handwritten viewfoils instead of powerpoint
<g>. Many people came up to me later and said they liked the viewfoils
better, as powerpoint slides tend to be a bit sterile.)

Wow - They probably had to search around for the overhead projector :) you should scan them to pdf if possible (ask a friend) so we can see them in their original form tangent: You should collaborate with Matthew on "D in a Nutshell" book, I would buy it in a second
Mar 19 2004
next sibling parent reply "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> writes:
"Mark T" <Mark_member pathlink.com> wrote in message
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 In article <c3dafh$24f6$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
I'll be putting the tutorial notes up later today, after I type them in


was the only presenter using handwritten viewfoils instead of powerpoint
<g>. Many people came up to me later and said they liked the viewfoils
better, as powerpoint slides tend to be a bit sterile.)

Wow - They probably had to search around for the overhead projector :)

There were a bunch of jokes about that.
 you should scan them to pdf if possible (ask a friend) so we can see them

 their original form

Anyone else prefer scans to text?
 tangent:
 You should collaborate with Matthew on "D in a Nutshell" book,  I would

 in a second

Hear that, Matthew? <g>
Mar 19 2004
next sibling parent Andrew Edwards <remove_ridimz remove_yahoo.com> writes:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 12:48:41 -0800, Walter <walter digitalmars.com> wrote:

 "Mark T" <Mark_member pathlink.com> wrote in message
 news:c3fhq6$2tnv$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 In article <c3dafh$24f6$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
I'll be putting the tutorial notes up later today, after I type them in


was the only presenter using handwritten viewfoils instead of 

<g>. Many people came up to me later and said they liked the viewfoils
better, as powerpoint slides tend to be a bit sterile.)

Wow - They probably had to search around for the overhead projector :)

There were a bunch of jokes about that.
 you should scan them to pdf if possible (ask a friend) so we can see 
 them

 their original form

Anyone else prefer scans to text?

I wouldn't mind catching a glimps of the viewfoils: just to get the "feel" of what we missed out on. I do believe, however, that there was alot more info was passed than could have been expressed with the viewfoils alone. I think some of that will make it into the translation, so I'll opt for the text.
 tangent:
 You should collaborate with Matthew on "D in a Nutshell" book,  I would

 in a second

Hear that, Matthew? <g>

-- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Mar 19 2004
prev sibling next sibling parent Jan Knepper <jan smartsoft.us> writes:
Walter wrote:
I'll be putting the tutorial notes up later today, after I type them in


(I
was the only presenter using handwritten viewfoils instead of powerpoint
<g>. Many people came up to me later and said they liked the viewfoils
better, as powerpoint slides tend to be a bit sterile.)



Well, Seeing what happened on conferences I went to years ago I probably would have done the same thing... On the otherside... I would refuse to use Power Point as much as I refuse to use Outlook (Express) ;-)
Wow - They probably had to search around for the overhead projector :)

There were a bunch of jokes about that.
you should scan them to pdf if possible (ask a friend) so we can see them

in
their original form

Anyone else prefer scans to text?

Yes! I definitely would like to see copy's of the originals in a PDF. Do you have a PDF writer?
tangent:
You should collaborate with Matthew on "D in a Nutshell" book,  I would

buy it
in a second

Hear that, Matthew? <g>

-- ManiaC++ Jan Knepper But as for me and my household, we shall use Mozilla... www.mozilla.org
Mar 19 2004
prev sibling parent "Matthew" <matthew stlsoft.org> writes:
"Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> wrote in message
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 "Mark T" <Mark_member pathlink.com> wrote in message
 news:c3fhq6$2tnv$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 In article <c3dafh$24f6$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
I'll be putting the tutorial notes up later today, after I type them in


was the only presenter using handwritten viewfoils instead of



<g>. Many people came up to me later and said they liked the viewfoils
better, as powerpoint slides tend to be a bit sterile.)

Wow - They probably had to search around for the overhead projector :)

There were a bunch of jokes about that.
 you should scan them to pdf if possible (ask a friend) so we can see


 in
 their original form

Anyone else prefer scans to text?
 tangent:
 You should collaborate with Matthew on "D in a Nutshell" book,  I would

 in a second

Hear that, Matthew? <g>

As you know, I'm working on getting this actioned.
Mar 19 2004
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Andrew Edwards <remove_ridimz remove_yahoo.com> writes:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 19:31:18 +0000 (UTC), Mark T 
<Mark_member pathlink.com> wrote:

 tangent:
 You should collaborate with Matthew on "D in a Nutshell" book,  I would 
 buy it
 in a second

I've been asking for this so long, I would probably mug the publisher to get a hold of it.
Mar 19 2004
parent "Phill" <phill pacific.net.au> writes:
LOL


"Andrew Edwards" <remove_ridimz remove_yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 19:31:18 +0000 (UTC), Mark T
 <Mark_member pathlink.com> wrote:

 tangent:
 You should collaborate with Matthew on "D in a Nutshell" book,  I would
 buy it
 in a second

I've been asking for this so long, I would probably mug the publisher to get a hold of it.

Mar 19 2004
prev sibling next sibling parent "Phill" <phill pacific.net.au> writes:
"Mark T" <Mark_member pathlink.com> wrote in message
news:c3fhq6$2tnv$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 In article <c3dafh$24f6$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
I'll be putting the tutorial notes up later today, after I type them in


was the only presenter using handwritten viewfoils instead of powerpoint
<g>. Many people came up to me later and said they liked the viewfoils
better, as powerpoint slides tend to be a bit sterile.)

Wow - They probably had to search around for the overhead projector :) you should scan them to pdf if possible (ask a friend) so we can see them

 their original form

I would love to see them as well!
 tangent:
 You should collaborate with Matthew on "D in a Nutshell" book,  I would

 in a second

and I would also buy it :o)) Phill.
Mar 19 2004
prev sibling parent reply "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> writes:
"Mark T" <Mark_member pathlink.com> wrote in message
news:c3fhq6$2tnv$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 In article <c3dafh$24f6$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
I'll be putting the tutorial notes up later today, after I type them in


was the only presenter using handwritten viewfoils instead of powerpoint
<g>. Many people came up to me later and said they liked the viewfoils
better, as powerpoint slides tend to be a bit sterile.)

Wow - They probably had to search around for the overhead projector :)

There were a bunch of jokes about that.
 you should scan them to pdf if possible (ask a friend) so we can see them

 their original form

Anyone else prefer scans to text? I've thought that since some people really prefer the handwritten version, that when I'm forced to do it with slides in the future, that maybe I should scan them in instead of editting in powerpoint.
 tangent:
 You should collaborate with Matthew on "D in a Nutshell" book,  I would

 in a second

Hear that, Matthew? <g>
Mar 19 2004
parent reply J C Calvarese <jcc7 cox.net> writes:
Walter wrote:
[...]
you should scan them to pdf if possible (ask a friend) so we can see them
in their original form

Anyone else prefer scans to text? I've thought that since some people really prefer the handwritten version, that when I'm forced to do it with slides in the future, that maybe I should scan them in instead of editting in powerpoint.

I'm curious to see what the handwritten slides look like. If the powerpoint slides would just be digital versions of your handwritten notes, it could be a big waste of time to type them in. I don't have anything against Powerpoint, but I've seen too many poor presentations by people using Powerpoint. I think some people use powerpoint as a crutch. Instead of providing good content, they provide only a flashy presentation. The content is essential. It sounds like your presentation had terrific content with a nostalgic presentation. Often, Powerpoint presentations look the same. Everyone's presentations look like everyone else's. The content is the important part so you might just want to go with what's easiest for you. This topic reminds me of the Powerpoint version of the Gettysburg Address (http://norvig.com/Gettysburg/). -- Justin http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/
Mar 19 2004
parent "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> writes:
"J C Calvarese" <jcc7 cox.net> wrote in message
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 This topic reminds me of the Powerpoint version of the Gettysburg
 Address (http://norvig.com/Gettysburg/).

LOL
Mar 19 2004