Digital Mars - D.gnu - D vs Eiffel

↑ ↓ ← → J C Calvarese <jcc7 cox.net> writes:

AnonymousFC3 wrote:
 I have never seen a D vs Eiffel evaluation/comparison.
 Your input appreciated.


Try looking at http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?LanguagesVersusD

Eiffel is there, but I can't guarantee it's right.

-- 
Justin (a/k/a jcc7)
http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/

Nov 06 2004

↑ ↓ ← → "HN" <hn nospam.net> writes:

"J C Calvarese" <jcc7 cox.net> wrote in message
news:cmjlmg$1tn$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 AnonymousFC3 wrote:
 I have never seen a D vs Eiffel evaluation/comparison.
 Your input appreciated.


 Try looking at http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?LanguagesVersusD

 Eiffel is there, but I can't guarantee it's right.


There are errors in the comparison table. For example, Eiffel supports
Generics, while from the table it would appear that it doesn't.

Nov 16 2004

↑ ↓ ← → Ant <Ant_member pathlink.com> writes:

In article <cnd6fq$cu8$1 digitaldaemon.com>, HN says...
"J C Calvarese" <jcc7 cox.net> wrote in message
news:cmjlmg$1tn$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 AnonymousFC3 wrote:
 I have never seen a D vs Eiffel evaluation/comparison.
 Your input appreciated.


 Try looking at http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?LanguagesVersusD

 Eiffel is there, but I can't guarantee it's right.


There are errors in the comparison table. For example, Eiffel supports
Generics, while from the table it would appear that it doesn't.


it's a wiki. can you please fix it?

Ant

Nov 16 2004

↑ ↓ ← → Ilya Minkov <minkov cs.tum.edu> writes:

AnonymousFC3 schrieb:
 I have never seen a D vs Eiffel evaluation/comparison.
 Your input appreciated.


Though there is one at Wiki, as pointed out by JCC7, i wouldn't give it 
to much value. For the one, it tries (and fails) to separate language 
features from the standard library features - which for some languages 
makes sense, for others (like Sather - i am not deeply familiar with 
Eiffel) it desn't since the library and the language were desgned 
together to compliment each other and the language gives the library the 
possibility to do it in a "native" manner. Taking a look at, say, OCaml 
- there the language features were originally library features before 
they were migrated into the compiler.

I suggest you describe your situation - that is, whether you are 
considering to switch from Eiffel, or whether you are switching from 
another language, and considering Eiffel and D as mutually exclusive 
alternatives, and what languages you have experience in and what 
deficiencies of these languages bothered you the most. Then, perhaps 
some people with experience in many languages would be able to suggest 
what you would like and what you would dislike about D, and how it may 
affect your work.

The main characteristic of D is that it is a very feature-rich, though 
not throughout consistent, language, so it imposes minimal requierements 
on the libraries, which, because of its youngness, are not quite there 
yet. However, see MinTL and DTL for algorithms and containers, and there 
is an object-oriented GTK wrapper for GUI, and bindings to many basic C 
libraries are there or are easy to make yourself. We are also sure that 
some consistency holes will be filled in future (backward compatible) 
versions of D.

-eye

Nov 07 2004

↑ ↓ ← → Charles Hixson <charleshixsn earthlink.net> writes:

Ilya Minkov wrote:
 AnonymousFC3 schrieb:
 
...
 features from the standard library features - which for some languages 
 makes sense, for others (like Sather - i am not deeply familiar with 
 Eiffel) it desn't since the library and the language were desgned 
 ...
 -eye


Is Sather still a live language?  The news list died long ago.

Jan 19 2005