D  [HOWTO](MN002, part 1) Coding typesafe multi parameter functions, optional parameters and the like
 Manfred Nowak (61/61) Mar 31 2004 How to code typesafe multi parameter functions, optional parameters,

John Reimer
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 Brad Anderson (4/8) Mar 31 2004 Yes, it would help us work on having text and code alternating on the
 J C Calvarese (11/22) Mar 31 2004 I think this material might be better suited for Wiki4D, since the Wiki
 John Reimer (2/16) Apr 02 2004 Oops! I guess I jumped the gun here. Sorry guys.
 Ben Hinkle (14/32) Mar 31 2004 I've gone back are reread your proposal using ; in parameter lists
 Manfred Nowak (24/33) Mar 31 2004 :) With your example even the existence/introduction of the `...' notio...
 Andy Friesen (3/8) Mar 31 2004 Maybe we can get Walter to incorporate these changes.
 Andy Friesen (4/16) Mar 31 2004 Wait I replied to the wrong post. I meant the environment thing.
How to code typesafe multi parameter functions, optional parameters, positional parameters, default valued parameters and the like, using the the syntax extension I just suggested. With working example using the currently available syntax. 1) All those features mentioned in the headline are special cases of the more general case of regular expressions over an alphabet of signatures. 1.a) For the purpose of this writing signatures are considered to be the ordered list of types that form the input parameters of a currently codeable function, i.e. the list is of arbitrary but fixed length and the return value is not considered to be part of the signature. 1.b) An alphabet of signatures is a finite set out of the virtual unlimited space of possible signatures. For example all the signatures that are coded in a given module/program/system make up an alphabet. 1.c) A (simple) regular expression consists of branches, alternatives and repetitions. 1.c.i)Let n be a nonnegative number and let S1, S2, ... ,Sn be n signatures out of a given alphabet of signatures, then by stringing them together with semicola a branch is formed: S1; S2; ... Sn The meaning of a branch is, that for every given index i, with 1<=i<n, the signature Si must be followed by the signature S(i+1) to make the branch match. If n==0, then the branch matches always. This is similar to the parameter lists, that currently can be coded, with the exception, that current parameter lists consist of types, not of signatures. By surrounding a branch with braces, it can be used like a signature. 1.c.ii) Let n be a natural number, with n>=2, and let B1, B2, ... , Bn be n branches as defined before, then by stringing them together with vertical bars an alternative is formed: B1  B2  ...  Bn The meaning of an alternative is, that if for some index i, with 1<=i<=n, the branch Bi matches, then the alternative matches. By surrounding an alternative with braces it can be used like a signature. Note: an alternative is just another description of the well known overloading of functions. 1.c.iii) Let S be a signature as defined before, then by appending a * a repetition is formed: S* The meaning of a repetition is, that the if the signature S is repeated an arbitrary number of times, i.e. not fixed, the repetition is matched. The repetition does not need braces to be used as a signature. 1.d) Examples For being able to distinguish between types, that form signatures, and signatures, types are separated by commas and signatures are separated by semicola. Let S be the empty signature, i.e. where no type is provided. Now consider the regular expression r=S. Then the multi parameter list () is accepted by r. Let S be as before. Consider the regular expression r=S S. Then the multi parameter list (;) is accepted by r. Let S1 be the empty signature and S2=int. Consider the regular expression r=(S1S2). Then the multi parameter lists () and (int) are accepted by r. Note again, that this is just overloading. Let S1 and S2 be as before. Consider the regular expression r=(S1S2)(S1S2). Then the multi parameter lists (;), (int;), (;int) and (int;int) are accepted. Note that we now have positional parameters, default valued parameters and the like. Let S=int,int. Consider the regular expression r=S*. Then the multi parameter lists (), (int,int), (int,int;int,int), ... are accepted by r. To be continued. So long!
Mar 31 2004
<snip tutorial> Hey Manfred, these "HOWTO"s are great. Have you considered submitting them to www.dsource.org? > (obviously under "advanced")
Mar 31 2004
Yes, it would help us work on having text and code alternating on the Tutorials section, instead of allcodeinone as it is now. BA John Reimer wrote:<snip tutorial> Hey Manfred, these "HOWTO"s are great. Have you considered submitting them to www.dsource.org? > (obviously under "advanced")
Mar 31 2004
Brad Anderson wrote:Yes, it would help us work on having text and code alternating on the Tutorials section, instead of allcodeinone as it is now.I think this material might be better suited for Wiki4D, since the Wiki already supports custom text formatting and the dsource tutorials only handle syntax highlighing. I do plan on trying to add some formatting options to the tutorials section, but it might get tricky and I'm not sure how long it'll take. As it is right now, this could be put into the tutorials, but the noncode portions would need to enclosed in comments (/+ +/, /* */, or //).BA John Reimer wrote: Justin http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/<snip tutorial> Hey Manfred, these "HOWTO"s are great. Have you considered submitting them to www.dsource.org? > (obviously under "advanced")
Mar 31 2004
J C Calvarese wrote:Brad Anderson wrote:Oops! I guess I jumped the gun here. Sorry guys.Yes, it would help us work on having text and code alternating on the Tutorials section, instead of allcodeinone as it is now.I think this material might be better suited for Wiki4D, since the Wiki already supports custom text formatting and the dsource tutorials only handle syntax highlighing. I do plan on trying to add some formatting options to the tutorials section, but it might get tricky and I'm not sure how long it'll take. As it is right now, this could be put into the tutorials, but the noncode portions would need to enclosed in comments (/+ +/, /* */, or //).
Apr 02 2004
1.d) Examples For being able to distinguish between types, that form signatures, and signatures, types are separated by commas and signatures are separated by semicola. Let S be the empty signature, i.e. where no type is provided. Now consider the regular expression r=S. Then the multi parameter list () is accepted by r. Let S be as before. Consider the regular expression r=S S. Then the multi parameter list (;) is accepted by r. Let S1 be the empty signature and S2=int. Consider the regular expression r=(S1S2). Then the multi parameter lists () and (int) are accepted by r. Note again, that this is just overloading. Let S1 and S2 be as before. Consider the regular expression r=(S1S2)(S1S2). Then the multi parameter lists (;), (int;), (;int) and (int;int) are accepted. Note that we now have positional parameters, default valued parameters and the like. Let S=int,int. Consider the regular expression r=S*. Then the multi parameter lists (), (int,int), (int,int;int,int), ... are accepted by r.I've gone back are reread your proposal using ; in parameter lists and I can't figure out what the ; would actually do. The earlier post described how ; affects evaluation order but didn't say much else. For example, how can I fill in the following pseudocode: void foo(int a,int b;int c,int d) { // fill in example here } void bar() { foo( /* ???? */ ); } Without that I can't make heads or tails of why it would be important to write a regular expression to match these kinds of signatures. Ben
Mar 31 2004
Ben Hinkle wrote: [...]void foo(int a,int b;int c,int d) { // fill in example here } void bar() { foo( /* ???? */ ); } Without that I can't make heads or tails of why it would be important to write a regular expression to match these kinds of signatures.:) With your example even the existence/introduction of the `...' notion could be made questionable. The power of the regular expression approach lies in the repetition of signatures, branches and alternatives. Your example misses this. For your example a regular expression is not needed, because the current syntax supports that: simply replace the `;' by a `,' and proceed as usual. However the example can be made more interesting, when in addition you want to be able to process (pseudo code again) one or more of this: void foo( ; int c, int d){ ... } or void foo( int a; int b, int c, int d){ ... } or void foo( int a, int b, int c; int d){ ... } You may have noticed, that there are eight possibilities how one can divide a sequence of four parameters into sequences of signatures. Therefore there are also eight possible interpretations. This is inherently dangerous. However, my main focus is on lists, which are supported by regular expressions. All other thingies are special cases of the general principle. Nobody is forced to use them. So long!
Mar 31 2004
Manfred Nowak wrote:How to code typesafe multi parameter functions, optional parameters, positional parameters, default valued parameters and the like, using the the syntax extension I just suggested. [ stuff ]Maybe we can get Walter to incorporate these changes.  andy
Mar 31 2004
Andy Friesen wrote:Manfred Nowak wrote:Wait I replied to the wrong post. I meant the environment thing. Disregard!  andyHow to code typesafe multi parameter functions, optional parameters, positional parameters, default valued parameters and the like, using the the syntax extension I just suggested. [ stuff ]Maybe we can get Walter to incorporate these changes.  andy
Mar 31 2004