• SpookyET <not4_u hotmail.com> Feb 23 2004
• Keith Fuller <Keith_member pathlink.com> Feb 23 2004
• Mik Mifflin <mik42 NOadelphiaSPAM.net> Feb 23 2004
• Brad Anderson <brad sankaty.dot.com> Feb 23 2004
• J C Calvarese <jcc7 cox.net> Feb 23 2004
• Stewart Gordon <smjg_1998 yahoo.com> Feb 26 2004
• larry cowan <larry_member pathlink.com> Feb 26 2004
• Hostile-meister <Hostile-meister_member pathlink.com> Feb 23 2004

SpookyET <not4_u hotmail.com> writes:

Today, I have made the switch to Dvorak, thus I am typing slower.  I  
believe that it is worth it.  This means that I will not be typing much  
for a while.

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Keith Fuller <Keith_member pathlink.com> writes:

I've noticed that when using the vi editor and Dvorak layout, the (left, down,
up, right) keys (h,j,k,l) are no longer next to each other. <g>

In article <opr3uahjty1s9n15 saturn>, SpookyET says...
Today, I have made the switch to Dvorak, thus I am typing slower.  I  
believe that it is worth it.  This means that I will not be typing much  
for a while.

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Mik Mifflin <mik42 NOadelphiaSPAM.net> writes:

Keith Fuller wrote:

 I've noticed that when using the vi editor and Dvorak layout, the (left,
 down, up, right) keys (h,j,k,l) are no longer next to each other. <g>


Something tells me SpookyET can't identify with that particular pain...

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 - Mik Mifflin

Brad Anderson <brad sankaty.dot.com> writes:

Mik Mifflin wrote:
 Keith Fuller wrote:
 
 
I've noticed that when using the vi editor and Dvorak layout, the (left,
down, up, right) keys (h,j,k,l) are no longer next to each other. <g>


 
 Something tells me SpookyET can't identify with that particular pain...
 


vim.net?

J C Calvarese <jcc7 cox.net> writes:

Brad Anderson wrote:
 Mik Mifflin wrote:
 
 Keith Fuller wrote:


 I've noticed that when using the vi editor and Dvorak layout, the (left,
 down, up, right) keys (h,j,k,l) are no longer next to each other. <g>




 Something tells me SpookyET can't identify with that particular pain...


 vim.net?


No, vim#.

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Justin
http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/

Stewart Gordon <smjg_1998 yahoo.com> writes:

Keith Fuller wrote:

 I've noticed that when using the vi editor and Dvorak layout, the (left, down,
 up, right) keys (h,j,k,l) are no longer next to each other. <g>



In every version of vi I've played with, the (left, down, up, right) 
keys are (left arrow, down arrow, up arrow, right arrow).

Stewart.

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larry cowan <larry_member pathlink.com> writes:

'vi' editor is terminal-type-dependent.  It is what termcap was designed for.
Nowadays everything (?) supports full keyboarding, and you may never see a
terminal with only typewriter keys.  They were common when 'vi' was developed by
Bill Joy and company at U.C.Berkeley, and there were upwards of a hundred
different terminals with different keyboarding and display capabilities.

"h,j,k,l" always works and the arrow keys were supported later when available.
This is also the origin of "x" for char-delete and other strangenesses (now).
'vim' and other pc-based likenesses extend the basis editor which in turn used
to have a separate editor 'ex' which underlay the nice surface and implemented
most of the : functionality.  'ex' was a command line editor.

'vi' still is a very fast editor for an experienced typist.  It was designed to
allow him to churn at nearly his normal typing speed.  Personally I'm a fast
one-handed typist and still like it (2nd hand for coffee or book - used to be
for card decks or listings).  It was not designed for Dvorak, but should be
eminently usable there even though the keys are split apart.

In article <c1kn96$2tj8$2 digitaldaemon.com>, Stewart Gordon says...
Keith Fuller wrote:

 I've noticed that when using the vi editor and Dvorak layout, the (left, down,
 up, right) keys (h,j,k,l) are no longer next to each other. <g>



In every version of vi I've played with, the (left, down, up, right) 
keys are (left arrow, down arrow, up arrow, right arrow).

Stewart.

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Hostile-meister <Hostile-meister_member pathlink.com> writes:

And the crowd goes wild.

In article <opr3uahjty1s9n15 saturn>, SpookyET says...
Today, I have made the switch to Dvorak, thus I am typing slower.  I  
believe that it is worth it.  This means that I will not be typing much  
for a while.

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But why not a chording keyboard?