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D - templating question

reply larry cowan <larry_member pathlink.com> writes:
How do I take a template I have written and tested and make it available to
programs I write without including the .d file in the new program compile?
Or...how to I make a library out of one or more template files for use in the D
environment?  In linux, I'd try ar, but in win32 I have no clue...
Feb 09 2004
parent reply J C Calvarese <jcc7 cox.net> writes:
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larry cowan wrote:
 How do I take a template I have written and tested and make it available to
 programs I write without including the .d file in the new program compile?
 Or...how to I make a library out of one or more template files for use in the D
 environment?  In linux, I'd try ar, but in win32 I have no clue...
 
 

I attached a working example (for Windows). I'm not sure if it answers your question, but maybe it'll point you in the right direction. -- Justin http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/
Feb 09 2004
parent reply larry cowan <larry_member pathlink.com> writes:
This works, but is not what I meant.  What is the utility, D or otherwise to
make a .lib?  I have tried calling the module with and without a module
beginning and putting the compiled object in the SRC\MYLIBS directory (calling
the module mylibs.mytemplate), without success, so I'm guessing I need a .lib.

Is a compiled "template module" a full fledged .obj module?  Is it accessible if
in the path without a specific call into the link?  If coded as a module and the
d file is in the src\mylibs directory, the compile finds what is needed in the
d, but the link fails, not finding the .obj pieces (several any-type
functions).  Doesn't work any better if .d and .obj are in the local (.)
directory either.  Where can I go from here?

Dave seems to use an APROPOS directory in SRC, but the things I have seen here
are just .d code without any further info.  If there is not something D-based
for creating libs, I might try to create something, but I need to know more
about D objects, and whether D & C coded objects could/should be mixed, etc.

-larry 

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larry cowan wrote:
 How do I take a template I have written and tested and make it available to
 programs I write without including the .d file in the new program compile?
 Or...how to I make a library out of one or more template files for use in the D
 environment?  In linux, I'd try ar, but in win32 I have no clue...
 
 

I attached a working example (for Windows). I'm not sure if it answers your question, but maybe it'll point you in the right direction. -- Justin http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/ name="max_temp.bat" = compiles each to .obj, links together as executable name="max_temp.d" = coded template as module name="main.d" = coded main() with use of template

Feb 10 2004
parent reply larry cowan <larry_member pathlink.com> writes:
Now I found "dm\lib.exe" with a -h option.  I'll see what I can do with this and
probably work out my problem - just haven't done much in Win before beyond
porting some C/C++ code from Unix.  Walter's explanation of his lib prog on the
website has told me the basics (www.digitalmars.com/ctg/lib.html).  Sorry to
have thrown out the question before doing enough homework first, but maybe
someone else will have been helped...

-larry 

In article <c0anvl$148p$1 digitaldaemon.com>, larry cowan says...
This works, but is not what I meant.  What is the utility, D or otherwise to
make a .lib?  I have tried calling the module with and without a module
beginning and putting the compiled object in the SRC\MYLIBS directory (calling
the module mylibs.mytemplate), without success, so I'm guessing I need a .lib.

Is a compiled "template module" a full fledged .obj module?  Is it accessible if
in the path without a specific call into the link?  If coded as a module and the
d file is in the src\mylibs directory, the compile finds what is needed in the
d, but the link fails, not finding the .obj pieces (several any-type
functions).  Doesn't work any better if .d and .obj are in the local (.)
directory either.  Where can I go from here?

Dave seems to use an APROPOS directory in SRC, but the things I have seen here
are just .d code without any further info.  If there is not something D-based
for creating libs, I might try to create something, but I need to know more
about D objects, and whether D & C coded objects could/should be mixed, etc.

-larry 

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larry cowan wrote:
 How do I take a template I have written and tested and make it available to
 programs I write without including the .d file in the new program compile?
 Or...how to I make a library out of one or more template files for use in the D
 environment?  In linux, I'd try ar, but in win32 I have no clue...
 
 

I attached a working example (for Windows). I'm not sure if it answers your question, but maybe it'll point you in the right direction. -- Justin http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/ name="max_temp.bat" = compiles each to .obj, links together as executable name="max_temp.d" = coded template as module name="main.d" = coded main() with use of template


Feb 10 2004
parent reply J C Calvarese <jcc7 cox.net> writes:
larry cowan wrote:
 Now I found "dm\lib.exe" with a -h option.  I'll see what I can do with this
and
 probably work out my problem - just haven't done much in Win before beyond
 porting some C/C++ code from Unix.  Walter's explanation of his lib prog on the
 website has told me the basics (www.digitalmars.com/ctg/lib.html).  Sorry to
 have thrown out the question before doing enough homework first, but maybe
 someone else will have been helped...

You asked a good question. I don't remember how I figured out how to make a .lib file. Maybe it was from someone else asking here how they're created. If I knew Linux better (I'm sure my Linux skills are worse than your Windows skills...), I probably would have figured out what you were after and suggested this for a batch file right away: echo off echo Compile Template (create .obj)... dmd max_temp.d -c echo. echo Creating .lib... lib -c max_temp.lib max_temp.obj echo. echo Compile and Link Main File... dmd main.d max_temp.lib echo. echo Running example... main.exe pause erase main.obj erase main.map erase max_temp.obj erase max_temp.lib
 Dave seems to use an APROPOS directory in SRC, but the things I have 

not > something D-based for creating libs, I might try to create something, > but I need to know more about D objects, and whether D & C coded > objects could/should be mixed, etc. By the way, I don't think I'm familiar with Dave's work. Is his APROPOS available for download somewhere?
 
 -larry 

-- Justin http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/
Feb 10 2004
next sibling parent "Larry Cowan" <LarryCowan comcast.net> writes:
The writer's name may be wrong, but I have picked up some stuff with module
names prefixed by "atropos." - I think out of the forum.  I have figured out
the lib creation stuf and played with module names and .d file and .lib
positioning.  I can get the .d info picked up by the compiler directly, by
placing it in the src\phobos hierarchy with
appropriate module naming.  What I haven't been able to do is to get the
linker to pick up the .lib or .obj tags without specific inclusion of the
.lib, .obj, or .d file in the compile and link.  Presume that
dmd\bin\sc.ini, dmd\bin\dmd.conf, or  dm\bin\sc.ini modification is
required, but I haven't been able to discover how yet.

-larry

"J C Calvarese" <jcc7 cox.net> wrote in message
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 larry cowan wrote:
 Now I found "dm\lib.exe" with a -h option.  I'll see what I can do with


 probably work out my problem - just haven't done much in Win before


 porting some C/C++ code from Unix.  Walter's explanation of his lib prog


 website has told me the basics (www.digitalmars.com/ctg/lib.html).


 have thrown out the question before doing enough homework first, but


 someone else will have been helped...

You asked a good question. I don't remember how I figured out how to make a .lib file. Maybe it was from someone else asking here how they're created. If I knew Linux better (I'm sure my Linux skills are worse than your Windows skills...), I probably would have figured out what you were after and suggested this for a batch file right away: echo off echo Compile Template (create .obj)... dmd max_temp.d -c echo. echo Creating .lib... lib -c max_temp.lib max_temp.obj echo. echo Compile and Link Main File... dmd main.d max_temp.lib echo. echo Running example... main.exe pause erase main.obj erase main.map erase max_temp.obj erase max_temp.lib > Dave seems to use an APROPOS directory in SRC, but the things I have > seen here are just .d code without any further info. If there is not > something D-based for creating libs, I might try to create something, > but I need to know more about D objects, and whether D & C coded > objects could/should be mixed, etc. By the way, I don't think I'm familiar with Dave's work. Is his APROPOS available for download somewhere?
 -larry

-- Justin http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/

Feb 11 2004
prev sibling parent reply Andy Friesen <andy ikagames.com> writes:
J C Calvarese wrote:

 larry cowan wrote:
 
 Now I found "dm\lib.exe" with a -h option.  I'll see what I can do 
 with this and
 probably work out my problem - just haven't done much in Win before 
 beyond
 porting some C/C++ code from Unix.  Walter's explanation of his lib 
 prog on the
 website has told me the basics (www.digitalmars.com/ctg/lib.html).  
 Sorry to
 have thrown out the question before doing enough homework first, but 
 maybe
 someone else will have been helped...

You asked a good question. I don't remember how I figured out how to make a .lib file. Maybe it was from someone else asking here how they're created. If I knew Linux better (I'm sure my Linux skills are worse than your Windows skills...), I probably would have figured out what you were after and suggested this for a batch file right away: echo off echo Compile Template (create .obj)... dmd max_temp.d -c echo. echo Creating .lib... lib -c max_temp.lib max_temp.obj echo. echo Compile and Link Main File... dmd main.d max_temp.lib echo. echo Running example... main.exe pause erase main.obj erase main.map erase max_temp.obj erase max_temp.lib > Dave seems to use an APROPOS directory in SRC, but the things I have > seen here are just .d code without any further info. If there is not > something D-based for creating libs, I might try to create something, > but I need to know more about D objects, and whether D & C coded > objects could/should be mixed, etc. By the way, I don't think I'm familiar with Dave's work. Is his APROPOS available for download somewhere?

Apropos is a little lib I coded, actually. It's basically a collection of miscellany that I've found to be frequently useful: <http://ikagames.com/andy/d> .lib files are basically just .zip without compression. You make a bunch of object files with dmd, then use the lib tool to mash them together. lib -c thingie.lib a.obj b.obj c.obj ..... As for templates, I've frequently had link errors with templates that are defined in .libs. Including the source file that defines the template into the build scrypt solves the problem. I suspect this is because D templates have to belong to some obj somewhere, and they have to be compiled only once for each set of arguments. -- andy
Feb 11 2004
parent J C Calvarese <jcc7 cox.net> writes:
Andy Friesen wrote:
 J C Calvarese wrote:

 By the way, I don't think I'm familiar with Dave's work. Is his 
 APROPOS available for download somewhere?

Apropos is a little lib I coded, actually. It's basically a collection of miscellany that I've found to be frequently useful: <http://ikagames.com/andy/d>

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. It looks like you've done some neat things with templates. Apropos didn't sound familiar to me. (If he'd mentioned dfbth, on the other hand, I would've known to go to your website.) -- Justin http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/
Feb 11 2004