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D - No Money No Honey

reply Hershel Fisch <Hershel_member pathlink.com> writes:
I have an idea which hopefully should bring a fortune  of money (hopefully) and
great popularity 
for "D" (Walter)
OK , I want to organize a joint venture company , which means instead of paying
for employees ,  
every employee would be a partner in the business for a certain percentage of
profits.
What's required some-kind of assurance from Walter that he'd continue to develop
"D" and if 
decides to quit or if one day he'd get tired of "D" we shouldn't be stuck, left
in the dark.
A few application programmers , a few system programers and a few library
programers. Every 
body must be advanced in his field and at least a good intermediate level in the
"D" language.
For who ever wants to join please write to hersh realtorsgroup.us looking
forward to hear frow 
you. Hershel Fisch
Feb 09 2004
next sibling parent reply "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> writes:
"Hershel Fisch" <Hershel_member pathlink.com> wrote in message
news:c08qo5$115f$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 I have an idea which hopefully should bring a fortune  of money

 great popularity
 for "D" (Walter)
 OK , I want to organize a joint venture company , which means instead of

 for employees ,
 every employee would be a partner in the business for a certain percentage

 profits.
 What's required some-kind of assurance from Walter that he'd continue to

 "D" and if
 decides to quit or if one day he'd get tired of "D" we shouldn't be stuck,

 in the dark.
 A few application programmers , a few system programers and a few library
 programers. Every
 body must be advanced in his field and at least a good intermediate level

 "D" language.
 For who ever wants to join please write to hersh realtorsgroup.us looking
 forward to hear frow
 you. Hershel Fisch

I've been working on D for 3 years, and have no intention of quitting.
Feb 09 2004
next sibling parent Hershel Fisch <Hershel_member pathlink.com> writes:
In article <c09151$1c2k$2 digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
Good to hear that .
"Hershel Fisch" <Hershel_member pathlink.com> wrote in message
news:c08qo5$115f$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 I have an idea which hopefully should bring a fortune  of money

 great popularity
 for "D" (Walter)
 OK , I want to organize a joint venture company , which means instead of

 for employees ,
 every employee would be a partner in the business for a certain percentage

 profits.
 What's required some-kind of assurance from Walter that he'd continue to

 "D" and if
 decides to quit or if one day he'd get tired of "D" we shouldn't be stuck,

 in the dark.
 A few application programmers , a few system programers and a few library
 programers. Every
 body must be advanced in his field and at least a good intermediate level

 "D" language.
 For who ever wants to join please write to hersh realtorsgroup.us looking
 forward to hear frow
 you. Hershel Fisch

I've been working on D for 3 years, and have no intention of quitting.

Feb 09 2004
prev sibling next sibling parent "Matthew" <matthew.hat stlsoft.dot.org> writes:
"Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> wrote in message
news:c09151$1c2k$2 digitaldaemon.com...
 "Hershel Fisch" <Hershel_member pathlink.com> wrote in message
 news:c08qo5$115f$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 I have an idea which hopefully should bring a fortune  of money

 great popularity
 for "D" (Walter)
 OK , I want to organize a joint venture company , which means instead of

 for employees ,
 every employee would be a partner in the business for a certain


 of
 profits.
 What's required some-kind of assurance from Walter that he'd continue to

 "D" and if
 decides to quit or if one day he'd get tired of "D" we shouldn't be


 left
 in the dark.
 A few application programmers , a few system programers and a few


 programers. Every
 body must be advanced in his field and at least a good intermediate


 in the
 "D" language.
 For who ever wants to join please write to hersh realtorsgroup.us


 forward to hear frow
 you. Hershel Fisch

I've been working on D for 3 years, and have no intention of quitting.

1.75 and ditto
Feb 09 2004
prev sibling parent reply Roberto Mariottini <Roberto_member pathlink.com> writes:
In article <c09151$1c2k$2 digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...

I've been working on D for 3 years, and have no intention of quitting.

To make the community sure, you should state that if at any time you chease support for the D reference implementation, it will be released under the public domain. It's important because life is complicated, and one couldn't know what can eventually happen. For example, you can loose interest in D, having developed a new visual 3D programming language. Or you are forced to make a living selling MS software (or, lastly, see http://www.uslegalforms.com/last_will_and_testament.htm :-). Ciao
Feb 10 2004
next sibling parent reply "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> writes:
"Roberto Mariottini" <Roberto_member pathlink.com> wrote in message
news:c0a5us$7ub$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 In article <c09151$1c2k$2 digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
I've been working on D for 3 years, and have no intention of quitting.


 support for the D reference implementation, it will be released under the

 domain.

I'd do it if I could, but I cannot. The best I can do is what is done now - the front end source, and all the library is GPL'd or freely usable. I do my best to encourage the ongoing development of the gnu back end for D.
 It's important because life is complicated, and one couldn't know what can
 eventually happen. For example, you can loose interest in D, having

 new visual 3D programming language. Or you are forced to make a living

 MS software (or, lastly, see
 http://www.uslegalforms.com/last_will_and_testament.htm :-).

 Ciao

Feb 10 2004
parent Mark T <Mark_member pathlink.com> writes:
In article <c0a74i$9t0$2 digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
I'd do it if I could, but I cannot. The best I can do is what is done now -
the front end source, and all the library is GPL'd or freely usable. I do my
best to encourage the ongoing development of the gnu back end for D.

please use the artistic or BSD license or LGPL for the library, GPL sucks for commercial vendors and companies actually trying to make a profit so their programmers can get paid (even the ones left in the western countries)
Feb 13 2004
prev sibling parent reply Andy Friesen <andy ikagames.com> writes:
Roberto Mariottini wrote:
 
 To make the community sure, you should state that if at any time you chease
 support for the D reference implementation, it will be released under the
public
 domain.
 It's important because life is complicated, and one couldn't know what can
 eventually happen. For example, you can loose interest in D, having developed a
 new visual 3D programming language. Or you are forced to make a living selling
 MS software (or, lastly, see
 http://www.uslegalforms.com/last_will_and_testament.htm :-).
 

I honestly doubt even Walter up and leaving would be enough to kill D at this stage of the game. There is a currently existing compiler whose source has been partially released and a GCC frontend project that's making wonderful progress. And that's not even taking all the people who just want to write D into account. -- andy
Feb 10 2004
parent reply Hershel Fisch <Hershel_member pathlink.com> writes:
Back to the point , who ever is interested in joining our team , it might be a
life time opportunity.
Nobody is asked to drop thier jobs, as a side job . In the begining for sure,
well , when the honey 
flows , their's no point keeping two jobs .
Thanks
Hershel Fisch. hershe realtorsgroup.us
p.s. please read the begining of this thread.
Feb 11 2004
parent reply Jon <s12 kron.cx> writes:
Hershel Fisch wrote:
 Back to the point , who ever is interested in joining our team , it might be a
 life time opportunity.
 Nobody is asked to drop thier jobs, as a side job . In the begining for sure,
 well , when the honey 
 flows , their's no point keeping two jobs .
 Thanks
 Hershel Fisch. hershe realtorsgroup.us
 p.s. please read the begining of this thread.
 
 

Nigeria, and need a few good men to lend me $10,000 so I can recover a vast sum of money from a government bank account in Liberia... ;) If anybody here goes for this, maybe I can also interest you in a nice mortgage or some prescription-free viagra? Haha, anyway, I think we all respect Walter's need to keep the back-end under his own license, and I for one appreciate the availability of the compiler and tools for free (beer-wise), even if I don't get a lot of time to use them, unfortunately. Thanks Walter! -Jon
Feb 11 2004
next sibling parent reply "Phill" <phill pacific.net.au> writes:
Damn it, I was about to give him my visa number.


"Jon" <s12 kron.cx> wrote in message news:c0f0qo$271d$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Hershel Fisch wrote:
 Back to the point , who ever is interested in joining our team , it


 life time opportunity.
 Nobody is asked to drop thier jobs, as a side job . In the begining for


 well , when the honey
 flows , their's no point keeping two jobs .
 Thanks
 Hershel Fisch. hershe realtorsgroup.us
 p.s. please read the begining of this thread.

Nigeria, and need a few good men to lend me $10,000 so I can recover a vast sum of money from a government bank account in Liberia... ;) If anybody here goes for this, maybe I can also interest you in a nice mortgage or some prescription-free viagra? Haha, anyway, I think we all respect Walter's need to keep the back-end under his own license, and I for one appreciate the availability of the compiler and tools for free (beer-wise), even if I don't get a lot of time to use them, unfortunately. Thanks Walter! -Jon

Feb 12 2004
parent Hershel Fisch <Hershel_member pathlink.com> writes:
In article <c0fhjl$1nt$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Phill says...
Damn it, I was about to give him my visa number.

"Jon" <s12 kron.cx> wrote in message news:c0f0qo$271d$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Hershel Fisch wrote:
 Back to the point , who ever is interested in joining our team , it


 life time opportunity.
 Nobody is asked to drop thier jobs, as a side job . In the begining for


 well , when the honey
 flows , their's no point keeping two jobs .
 Thanks
 Hershel Fisch. hershe realtorsgroup.us
 p.s. please read the begining of this thread.

Nigeria, and need a few good men to lend me $10,000 so I can recover a vast sum of money from a government bank account in Liberia... ;) If anybody here goes for this, maybe I can also interest you in a nice mortgage or some prescription-free viagra? Haha, anyway, I think we all respect Walter's need to keep the back-end under his own license, and I for one appreciate the availability of the compiler and tools for free (beer-wise), even if I don't get a lot of time to use them, unfortunately. Thanks Walter! -Jon


Feb 12 2004
prev sibling parent "C" <dont respond.com> writes:
LOL!!

"Jon" <s12 kron.cx> wrote in message news:c0f0qo$271d$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Hershel Fisch wrote:
 Back to the point , who ever is interested in joining our team , it


 life time opportunity.
 Nobody is asked to drop thier jobs, as a side job . In the begining for


 well , when the honey
 flows , their's no point keeping two jobs .
 Thanks
 Hershel Fisch. hershe realtorsgroup.us
 p.s. please read the begining of this thread.

Nigeria, and need a few good men to lend me $10,000 so I can recover a vast sum of money from a government bank account in Liberia... ;) If anybody here goes for this, maybe I can also interest you in a nice mortgage or some prescription-free viagra? Haha, anyway, I think we all respect Walter's need to keep the back-end under his own license, and I for one appreciate the availability of the compiler and tools for free (beer-wise), even if I don't get a lot of time to use them, unfortunately. Thanks Walter! -Jon

Feb 12 2004
prev sibling parent reply John Reimer <jjreimer telus.net> writes:
No offense to Hershel...

Am I missing something?  Why are people responding so readily to 
somebody that just suggests something out the blue without any 
background information or identity.

Is this somebody that's well known for joint ventures or business plans?

Otherwise... Trust must be at an all time high right now.

I'm just waiting for the part where everybody signs a check to be 
collected by a financial officer named Hershel... (just a one time 
payment! no more! no less!)

Wouldn't somebody approach Walter first in private before posting such a 
suggestion here?

Later,

Doubting Thomas :-P
Feb 11 2004
parent reply Hershel Fisch <Hershel_member pathlink.com> writes:
In article <c0eh6v$1eoa$1 digitaldaemon.com>, John Reimer says...
No offense to Hershel...

Am I missing something?  Why are people responding so readily to 
somebody that just suggests something out the blue without any 
background information or identity.

invest in "D" so much as quited in the interduction for "D" "who are you to make a new language" looks he's smarter then that,there is nothing to loose exept a bit of time and byte of code, how much time does an average person wash down in life ? Lets not talk about the fact on the investment from my side arranging leagel matters , hardware etc.
Is this somebody that's well known for joint ventures or business plans?

probebly still sit and write code and all of us would use command line or maybe even punchcards. Thats why I'm a business man and not a programer. (though I like to play around coding but not to make a living off it.)
Otherwise... Trust must be at an all time high right now.

and the 90% chance of gaining. Any thing that doesn't have a chance to loose doesn't have capability to win.
I'm just waiting for the part where everybody signs a check to be 
collected by a financial officer named Hershel... (just a one time 
payment! no more! no less!)

percent. No body collects money , the company does, every partner has the right to follow up on transactions. And by the way the same applies to me relying on who ever joins, but back to the above statement. And again life is a gamble.
Wouldn't somebody approach Walter first in private before posting such a 
suggestion here?

off) Walter wouldn't be left it the cold. And by the way when did any programer speak or deal with Att Labs , Karnegie , Compaq or all other language developers?
Later,

Don't hesitate if any thing else bothers you. By the way what are your qualifications ?
Doubting Thomas :-P

Feb 12 2004
next sibling parent reply The Lone Haranguer <The_member pathlink.com> writes:
I don't think any serious businessman would have such poor spelling.


In article <c0giv2$1mhu$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Hershel Fisch says...
In article <c0eh6v$1eoa$1 digitaldaemon.com>, John Reimer says...
No offense to Hershel...

Am I missing something?  Why are people responding so readily to 
somebody that just suggests something out the blue without any 
background information or identity.

invest in "D" so much as quited in the interduction for "D" "who are you to make a new language" looks he's smarter then that,there is nothing to loose exept a bit of time and byte of code, how much time does an average person wash down in life ? Lets not talk about the fact on the investment from my side arranging leagel matters , hardware etc.
Is this somebody that's well known for joint ventures or business plans?

probebly still sit and write code and all of us would use command line or maybe even punchcards. Thats why I'm a business man and not a programer. (though I like to play around coding but not to make a living off it.)
Otherwise... Trust must be at an all time high right now.

and the 90% chance of gaining. Any thing that doesn't have a chance to loose doesn't have capability to win.
I'm just waiting for the part where everybody signs a check to be 
collected by a financial officer named Hershel... (just a one time 
payment! no more! no less!)

percent. No body collects money , the company does, every partner has the right to follow up on transactions. And by the way the same applies to me relying on who ever joins, but back to the above statement. And again life is a gamble.
Wouldn't somebody approach Walter first in private before posting such a 
suggestion here?

off) Walter wouldn't be left it the cold. And by the way when did any programer speak or deal with Att Labs , Karnegie , Compaq or all other language developers?
Later,

Don't hesitate if any thing else bothers you. By the way what are your qualifications ?
Doubting Thomas :-P


Feb 12 2004
parent Hershel Fisch <Hershel_member pathlink.com> writes:
In article <c0gqsr$2392$1 digitaldaemon.com>, The Lone Haranguer says...
I don't think any serious businessman would have such poor spelling.

If I'd been you , I'd inquire instead of .......
In article <c0giv2$1mhu$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Hershel Fisch says...
In article <c0eh6v$1eoa$1 digitaldaemon.com>, John Reimer says...
No offense to Hershel...

Am I missing something?  Why are people responding so readily to 
somebody that just suggests something out the blue without any 
background information or identity.

invest in "D" so much as quited in the interduction for "D" "who are you to make a new language" looks he's smarter then that,there is nothing to loose exept a bit of time and byte of code, how much time does an average person wash down in life ? Lets not talk about the fact on the investment from my side arranging leagel matters , hardware etc.
Is this somebody that's well known for joint ventures or business plans?

probebly still sit and write code and all of us would use command line or maybe even punchcards. Thats why I'm a business man and not a programer. (though I like to play around coding but not to make a living off it.)
Otherwise... Trust must be at an all time high right now.

and the 90% chance of gaining. Any thing that doesn't have a chance to loose doesn't have capability to win.
I'm just waiting for the part where everybody signs a check to be 
collected by a financial officer named Hershel... (just a one time 
payment! no more! no less!)

percent. No body collects money , the company does, every partner has the right to follow up on transactions. And by the way the same applies to me relying on who ever joins, but back to the above statement. And again life is a gamble.
Wouldn't somebody approach Walter first in private before posting such a 
suggestion here?

off) Walter wouldn't be left it the cold. And by the way when did any programer speak or deal with Att Labs , Karnegie , Compaq or all other language developers?
Later,

Don't hesitate if any thing else bothers you. By the way what are your qualifications ?
Doubting Thomas :-P



Feb 12 2004
prev sibling parent reply John Reimer <jjreimer telus.net> writes:
Hershel,

I'm sorry, I just don't buy it.

 I hope this answers your questions.
 Don't hesitate if any thing else bothers you. By the way what are your
 qualifications ?

My qualifications? I've got a Phd like Matthew, +3 more; I'm an engineer and compiler developer like Walter but with plenty more experience, and .... It's amazing what I can become when I'm on the 'net! :-D Are you going to take my word for it? ;-) But honestly, I'm a nobody, and my qualifications are least of those in this D group. I do hope that Walter has financial success with D someday, considering all the hours he's donated to it. While your idea may be sound, you are the unknown variable. I think the post from "The Lone Haranguer" about spelling and grammar of the proposal has significant merit. - John R.
Feb 12 2004
next sibling parent reply "Phill" <phill pacific.net.au> writes:
yea, somthing smells Fischy here!


"John Reimer" <jjreimer telus.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.02.13.02.11.01.293805 telus.net...
 Hershel,

 I'm sorry, I just don't buy it.

 I hope this answers your questions.
 Don't hesitate if any thing else bothers you. By the way what are your
 qualifications ?

My qualifications? I've got a Phd like Matthew, +3 more; I'm an engineer and compiler developer like Walter but with plenty more experience, and .... It's amazing what I can become when I'm on the 'net! :-D Are you going to take my word for it? ;-) But honestly, I'm a nobody, and my qualifications are least of those in this D group. I do hope that Walter has financial success with D someday, considering all the hours he's donated to it. While your idea may be sound, you are the unknown variable. I think the post from "The Lone Haranguer" about spelling and grammar of the proposal has significant merit. - John R.

Feb 12 2004
parent Hershel Fisch <Hershel_member pathlink.com> writes:
In article <c0hcln$2ute$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Phill says...
yea, somthing smells Fischy here!

worth then money.
"John Reimer" <jjreimer telus.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.02.13.02.11.01.293805 telus.net...
 Hershel,

 I'm sorry, I just don't buy it.

 I hope this answers your questions.
 Don't hesitate if any thing else bothers you. By the way what are your
 qualifications ?

My qualifications? I've got a Phd like Matthew, +3 more; I'm an engineer and compiler developer like Walter but with plenty more experience, and .... It's amazing what I can become when I'm on the 'net! :-D Are you going to take my word for it? ;-) But honestly, I'm a nobody, and my qualifications are least of those in this D group. I do hope that Walter has financial success with D someday, considering all the hours he's donated to it. While your idea may be sound, you are the unknown variable. I think the post from "The Lone Haranguer" about spelling and grammar of the proposal has significant merit. - John R.


Feb 12 2004
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Hershel Fisch <Hershel_member pathlink.com> writes:
In article <pan.2004.02.13.02.11.01.293805 telus.net>, John Reimer says...
Hershel,

I'm sorry, I just don't buy it.

 I hope this answers your questions.
 Don't hesitate if any thing else bothers you. By the way what are your
 qualifications ?

My qualifications? I've got a Phd like Matthew, +3 more; I'm an engineer

and compiler developer like Walter but with plenty more experience, and
....  It's amazing what I can become when I'm on the 'net! :-D

Are you going to take my word for it? ;-)

But honestly, I'm a nobody, and my qualifications are least of those in
this D group.

I do hope that Walter has financial success with D someday, considering
all the hours he's donated to it. While your idea may be sound,  you are
the unknown variable.  I think the post from "The Lone Haranguer" about
spelling and grammar of the proposal has significant merit.

- John R.

Feb 12 2004
parent John Reimer <jjreimer telus.net> writes:
My qualifications? I've got a Phd like Matthew, +3 more; I'm an engineer


Actually, I like to refer to it as Post hole digger, since I imagine that's what it amounts to ;-). Hey, I've done plenty of Phding before. honest. It's hard work!
But honestly, I'm a nobody, and my qualifications are least of those in
this D group.


Well, in this case, you missed my motivation for the admission ...
Feb 13 2004
prev sibling parent reply Manfred Nowak <svv1999 hotmail.com> writes:
John Reimer wrote:
[...]
 While your idea may be sound,  you are the unknown variable.

Google does know nothing about Hershel. Although Google Groups gives exactly one reference, namely to `Global Warning Petition Project': http://groups.google.de/groups?hl=de&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=hershel+fisch So long.
Feb 12 2004
next sibling parent reply "Phill" <phill pacific.net.au> writes:
That says Global W_a_r_m_i_n_g
not
Global W_a_r_n_i_n_g

hahahahha


"Manfred Nowak" <svv1999 hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c0hm2s$d3o$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 John Reimer wrote:
 [...]
 While your idea may be sound,  you are the unknown variable.

Google does know nothing about Hershel. Although Google Groups gives exactly one reference, namely to `Global Warning Petition Project': http://groups.google.de/groups?hl=de&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=hershel+fisch So long.

Feb 12 2004
parent John Reimer <jjreimer telus.net> writes:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 16:40:56 +1100, Phill wrote:

 That says Global W_a_r_m_i_n_g
 not
 Global W_a_r_n_i_n_g
 
 hahahahha
 
 
 "Manfred Nowak" <svv1999 hotmail.com> wrote in message
 news:c0hm2s$d3o$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 John Reimer wrote:
 [...]
 While your idea may be sound,  you are the unknown variable.

Google does know nothing about Hershel. Although Google Groups gives exactly one reference, namely to `Global Warning Petition Project': http://groups.google.de/groups?hl=de&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=hershel+fisch So long.


That and it's a hit for a combination of 2 independent names Dr. Hershel and Dr. Fisch later on in the document.
Feb 12 2004
prev sibling next sibling parent Derek Parnell <Derek.Parnell No.Spam> writes:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 06:07:44 +0100 (02/13/04 16:07:44)
, Manfred Nowak <svv1999 hotmail.com> wrote:

 John Reimer wrote:
 [...]
 While your idea may be sound,  you are the unknown variable.

Google does know nothing about Hershel. Although Google Groups gives exactly one reference, namely to `Global Warning Petition Project': http://groups.google.de/groups?hl=de&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=hershel+fisch So long.

But that reference is to TWO (2) different people:Arnold G Fisch and Dr Hershel Raff. " Global Warming Petition Project ... Firmage, Harlan I Firminger, MD, Dr Melvin Wm First, PhD, Arnold G Fisch, Bryant C ... Keith Rae, Dr Harold Raemer, PhD, Dr Beat U Raess, PhD, Dr Hershel Raff, PhD ... sci.environment - 22. Apr. 1998 von Arnold Jagt - Ansicht Diskussionsthema (16 Beiträge) " -- Derek
Feb 12 2004
prev sibling parent reply John Reimer <jjreimer telus.net> writes:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 06:07:44 +0100, Manfred Nowak wrote:

 John Reimer wrote:
 [...]
 While your idea may be sound,  you are the unknown variable.


Just have a look at the website: www.realtorsgroup.us from his return email address. Pretty strange and bleak if you ask me.
Feb 12 2004
parent Bastiaan Veelo <Bastiaan.N.Veelo ntnu.no> writes:
John Reimer wrote:
 On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 06:07:44 +0100, Manfred Nowak wrote:
 
 
John Reimer wrote:
[...]

While your idea may be sound,  you are the unknown variable.

[...]

Just have a look at the website: www.realtorsgroup.us from his return email address. Pretty strange and bleak if you ask me.

Quote from there: "Please check back at a later date for you're real estate investment calculator. Thanks for you're patience ." More great spelling :-) (Or should I say grammar, punctuation, style, or all of the above?) And I understand why he wants to attract programmers... Bastiaan.
Feb 13 2004