• John Reimer <jjreimer telus.net> Sep 08 2003
• "Daniel Yokomiso" <daniel_yokomiso yahoo.com.br> Sep 08 2003
• "Charles Sanders" <sanders-consulting comcast.net> Sep 08 2003
• John Reimer <jjreimer telus.net> Sep 08 2003
• "Daniel Yokomiso" <daniel_yokomiso yahoo.com.br> Sep 08 2003
• John Reimer <jjreimer telus.net> Sep 08 2003
• "Daniel Yokomiso" <daniel_yokomiso yahoo.com.br> Sep 09 2003

John Reimer <jjreimer telus.net> writes:

Has anyone looked into a D IDE plugin for the Eclipse Project yet?  I 
imagine this to be a bit of work, but it appears be a powerfully 
integrated IDE to work with.  The only other IDE plugins for Eclipse, so 
far, appear to be for Java, C/C++ (CDT), and COBOL (of all things!).

I think it's been mentioned here before that eclipse is significantly 
multiplatform (Windows, Linux GTK2, Solaris 8, QNX Photon, AIX, HP-UX, 
Mac OSX, etc).

- John

"Daniel Yokomiso" <daniel_yokomiso yahoo.com.br> writes:

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 Has anyone looked into a D IDE plugin for the Eclipse Project yet?  I
 imagine this to be a bit of work, but it appears be a powerfully
 integrated IDE to work with.  The only other IDE plugins for Eclipse, so
 far, appear to be for Java, C/C++ (CDT), and COBOL (of all things!).

 I think it's been mentioned here before that eclipse is significantly
 multiplatform (Windows, Linux GTK2, Solaris 8, QNX Photon, AIX, HP-UX,
 Mac OSX, etc).

 - John


From time to time people come here and try to see if anyone else is
interested in writing a D plugin for Eclipse. As it's an expensive (in terms
of man-hours) project to do usually people aren't interested in starting it
(including the original posters). So my question is, are you interested in
doing it? If you are interested in maintaining it I'll contribute, and I
think I can do it fairly well (I'm a professional Java developer).

    Best regards,
    Daniel Yokomiso.

"Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way you're a
mile away and you have their shoes, too."



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"Charles Sanders" <sanders-consulting comcast.net> writes:

"Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way you're a
mile away and you have their shoes, too."

lol!


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 Has anyone looked into a D IDE plugin for the Eclipse Project yet?  I
 imagine this to be a bit of work, but it appears be a powerfully
 integrated IDE to work with.  The only other IDE plugins for Eclipse, so
 far, appear to be for Java, C/C++ (CDT), and COBOL (of all things!).

 I think it's been mentioned here before that eclipse is significantly
 multiplatform (Windows, Linux GTK2, Solaris 8, QNX Photon, AIX, HP-UX,
 Mac OSX, etc).

 - John


 From time to time people come here and try to see if anyone else is
 interested in writing a D plugin for Eclipse. As it's an expensive (in


 of man-hours) project to do usually people aren't interested in starting


 (including the original posters). So my question is, are you interested in
 doing it? If you are interested in maintaining it I'll contribute, and I
 think I can do it fairly well (I'm a professional Java developer).

     Best regards,
     Daniel Yokomiso.

 "Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way you're


 mile away and you have their shoes, too."



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John Reimer <jjreimer telus.net> writes:

 From time to time people come here and try to see if anyone else is
 interested in writing a D plugin for Eclipse. As it's an expensive (in terms
 of man-hours) project to do usually people aren't interested in starting it
 (including the original posters). So my question is, are you interested in
 doing it? If you are interested in maintaining it I'll contribute, and I
 think I can do it fairly well (I'm a professional Java developer).
 


Daniel,

You may have noticed that I'm exceptionally good at asking such 
questions!  I don't know if it's a natural talent, a genetic mutation, 
or predilection to laziness and procrastination, yet I strongly suspect 
it to be the latter (don't tell anyone)!

But, nevertheless, if someone else is working on such a plugin, it would 
be nice to know, wouldn't it? (to avoid duplication of efforts).  So, in 
my defense, I think the question is a valid one, however irritating it 
may be. ;-)

Am I interested in doing it? Sure, if I knew how! If the project is as 
expensive as you say in terms of man-hours, I imagine it's also 
expensive in terms of programming experience.  Unlike you, I have little 
  java experience.  I'm interested in looking into it, nonetheless. But 
I'd better investigate the project requirements further on my own to 
avoid inability-of-follow-through embarassment :-).

Thanks for the response,

John

"Daniel Yokomiso" <daniel_yokomiso yahoo.com.br> writes:

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[snip]

 Daniel,

 You may have noticed that I'm exceptionally good at asking such
 questions!  I don't know if it's a natural talent, a genetic mutation,
 or predilection to laziness and procrastination, yet I strongly suspect
 it to be the latter (don't tell anyone)!

 But, nevertheless, if someone else is working on such a plugin, it would
 be nice to know, wouldn't it? (to avoid duplication of efforts).  So, in
 my defense, I think the question is a valid one, however irritating it
 may be. ;-)



Dammit, I hoped to convince you to lead this project ;)


 Am I interested in doing it? Sure, if I knew how! If the project is as
 expensive as you say in terms of man-hours, I imagine it's also
 expensive in terms of programming experience.  Unlike you, I have little
   java experience.  I'm interested in looking into it, nonetheless. But
 I'd better investigate the project requirements further on my own to
 avoid inability-of-follow-through embarassment :-).

 Thanks for the response,

 John



There are many desirable things for D but so few people, that's why I asked
you if you were interested in leading/maintaining this project. If we can
get people who have a gift to know what is desirable to commit with these
stuff things will be better for everyone and the next person to ask the same
thing will either be invited to help the ongoing project or discover that
his desire already exists.

    Best regards,
    Daniel Yokomiso.

"Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training."
 - Anna Freud
"John Reimer" <jjreimer telus.net> escreveu na mensagem
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[snip]

 Daniel,

 You may have noticed that I'm exceptionally good at asking such
 questions!  I don't know if it's a natural talent, a genetic mutation,
 or predilection to laziness and procrastination, yet I strongly suspect
 it to be the latter (don't tell anyone)!

 But, nevertheless, if someone else is working on such a plugin, it would
 be nice to know, wouldn't it? (to avoid duplication of efforts).  So, in
 my defense, I think the question is a valid one, however irritating it
 may be. ;-)



Dammit, I hoped to convince you to lead this project ;)


 Am I interested in doing it? Sure, if I knew how! If the project is as
 expensive as you say in terms of man-hours, I imagine it's also
 expensive in terms of programming experience.  Unlike you, I have little
   java experience.  I'm interested in looking into it, nonetheless. But
 I'd better investigate the project requirements further on my own to
 avoid inability-of-follow-through embarassment :-).

 Thanks for the response,

 John



There are many desirable things for D but so few people, that's why I asked
you if you were interested in leading/maintaining this project. If we can
get people who have a gift to know what is desirable to commit with these
stuff things will be better for everyone and the next person to ask the same
thing will either be invited to help the ongoing project or discover that
his desire already exists.

    Best regards,
    Daniel Yokomiso.

"Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training."
 - Anna Freud

John Reimer <jjreimer telus.net> writes:

 
 There are many desirable things for D but so few people, that's why I asked
 you if you were interested in leading/maintaining this project. If we can
 get people who have a gift to know what is desirable to commit with these
 stuff things will be better for everyone and the next person to ask the same
 thing will either be invited to help the ongoing project or discover that
 his desire already exists.
 
     Best regards,
     Daniel Yokomiso.


Yes, you are right.  I'm ashamed.  Next time perhaps I'll post something 
like: "I've started name-that-project for D.  Here's how it's going..."

Looking at the work involved in the eclipse plugin, I do see it to be a 
daunting task. Let me investigate this project more.  Maybe something 
can happen with it.

Later,

John

 
 "Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training."
  - Anna Freud
 


Eeek! A Freudian!

Is this random? Or are you purposely picking these out to baffle people? 
  :-D

"Daniel Yokomiso" <daniel_yokomiso yahoo.com.br> writes:

"John Reimer" <jjreimer telus.net> escreveu na mensagem
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 There are many desirable things for D but so few people, that's why I




 you if you were interested in leading/maintaining this project. If we




 get people who have a gift to know what is desirable to commit with




 stuff things will be better for everyone and the next person to ask the




 thing will either be invited to help the ongoing project or discover




 his desire already exists.

     Best regards,
     Daniel Yokomiso.


 Yes, you are right.  I'm ashamed.



Don't! I say these things to help us build a better community, not to make
people feel they "aren't doing enough". It's a big thing commiting to an
open-source project, I commited to Deimos and the one year anniversary
approaches without a 0.0.2 version :(, but whenever a good idea comes I'll
try to get someone doing it.


 Next time perhaps I'll post something
 like: "I've started name-that-project for D.  Here's how it's going..."

 Looking at the work involved in the eclipse plugin, I do see it to be a
 daunting task. Let me investigate this project more.  Maybe something
 can happen with it.

 Later,

 John

 "Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad




  - Anna Freud


 Eeek! A Freudian!

 Is this random? Or are you purposely picking these out to baffle people?
   :-D


Mezzo a mezzo. I collect sigs and put them in a file, then I use it as a
queue (take the first sig, use it, put it the end). But most of them are
things to "baffle people" or that make me think.

    Best regards,
    Daniel Yokomiso.

"All must fall, and those who stand the highest fall hardest."
 - Phyrexian Scriptures
"John Reimer" <jjreimer telus.net> escreveu na mensagem
news:bjjaf0$2h8f$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 There are many desirable things for D but so few people, that's why I




 you if you were interested in leading/maintaining this project. If we




 get people who have a gift to know what is desirable to commit with




 stuff things will be better for everyone and the next person to ask the




 thing will either be invited to help the ongoing project or discover




 his desire already exists.

     Best regards,
     Daniel Yokomiso.


 Yes, you are right.  I'm ashamed.



Don't! I say these things to help us build a better community, not to make
people feel they "aren't doing enough". It's a big thing commiting to an
open-source project, I commited to Deimos and the one year anniversary
approaches without a 0.0.2 version :(, but whenever a good idea comes I'll
try to get someone doing it.


 Next time perhaps I'll post something
 like: "I've started name-that-project for D.  Here's how it's going..."

 Looking at the work involved in the eclipse plugin, I do see it to be a
 daunting task. Let me investigate this project more.  Maybe something
 can happen with it.

 Later,

 John

 "Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad




  - Anna Freud


 Eeek! A Freudian!

 Is this random? Or are you purposely picking these out to baffle people?
   :-D


Mezzo a mezzo. I collect sigs and put them in a file, then I use it as a
queue (take the first sig, use it, put it the end). But most of them are
things to "baffle people" or that make me think.

    Best regards,
    Daniel Yokomiso.

"All must fall, and those who stand the highest fall hardest."
 - Phyrexian Scriptures