• Mike <Mike_member pathlink.com> Jan 22 2003
• "Sean L. Palmer" <seanpalmer directvinternet.com> Jan 23 2003
• "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> Jan 23 2003
• Mike <Mike_member pathlink.com> Jan 23 2003
• Ilya Minkov <midiclub 8ung.at> Jan 24 2003
• Mike <Mike_member pathlink.com> Jan 26 2003
• Ilya Minkov <midiclub tiscali.de> Jan 27 2003

Mike <Mike_member pathlink.com> writes:

Hello, I'm coming from RAD land, I don't understand what use has a programing
language without a user interface? I understand the dos days, ok , but thats
over .
 I really would appreciate it, most probably I am missing something..

"Sean L. Palmer" <seanpalmer directvinternet.com> writes:

Well for starters, you can use it to *write* a user interface.  ;)

Also it's not a great idea to tie a language too tightly to a particular
interface, be it graphical or text.

If you need a pretty IDE with drag and drop buttons and forms, D is too
early along in development for that yet.  Come back in a year or so.

Every language has to start somewhere, and while Walter is like a one man
Army, he isn't Microsoft;  the WYSIWYG dialog editors will have to come
later.

Sean

"Mike" <Mike_member pathlink.com> wrote in message
news:b0o34e$27lv$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Hello, I'm coming from RAD land, I don't understand what use has a


 language without a user interface? I understand the dos days, ok , but


 over .
  I really would appreciate it, most probably I am missing something..

"Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> writes:

"Sean L. Palmer" <seanpalmer directvinternet.com> wrote in message
news:b0og91$2er2$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Every language has to start somewhere, and while Walter is like a one man
 Army, he isn't Microsoft;  the WYSIWYG dialog editors will have to come
 later.


Writing wysisyg dialog editors is not a core competency of mine :-( so I'm
hoping someone else will rise to that challenge!

Mike <Mike_member pathlink.com> writes:

In article <b0qdai$hlm$3 digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
"Sean L.


message
news:b0og91$2er2$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Every language has to start




 Army, he isn't Microsoft;  the




 later.




with there style
Writing wysisyg dialog editors is not a core competency of


hoping someone else will rise to that challenge!

Ilya Minkov <midiclub 8ung.at> writes:

Sean L. Palmer wrote:
 Well for starters, you can use it to *write* a user interface.  ;)
 
 Also it's not a great idea to tie a language too tightly to a particular
 interface, be it graphical or text.
 
 If you need a pretty IDE with drag and drop buttons and forms, D is too
 early along in development for that yet.  Come back in a year or so.
 
 Every language has to start somewhere, and while Walter is like a one man
 Army, he isn't Microsoft;  the WYSIWYG dialog editors will have to come
 later.
 
 Sean


Well, i am also originally coming from RAD, but i didn't like it there. 
I also consider it harmful, not knowing about the usual loopback 
interfaces and such, which is a classical programming practice 
applicable to many daily tasks, hidden from RADlers.

It is important to devise a cross-platform GUI library. Then a UI 
builder can be written. Not the other way around. :>

I might volunteer to write a GUI builder if i appear to like the GUI 
library, which i shall not design myself, but will keep dropping 
"wishes" in. :>

For now i'm planning to write a "c-hea.d" utility, which does -- guess 
what! But i'll be busy for the next 2 weeks and won't actually start 
until afterwards. I first planned to do it in OCaml, but i think i'll 
rather stick to D.

-i.

Mike <Mike_member pathlink.com> writes:

In article <b0rvu3$1atm$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Ilya Minkov says...
Sean L.


 Well for starters, you can use it to *write* a user interface.




 
 Also it's not a great idea to tie a language too tightly to a




 interface, be it graphical or text.
 
 If you need a pretty




 early along in development




 
 Every language has to start




 Army, he isn't Microsoft;  the




 later.
 
 Sean


Well, i am


I also consider


interfaces and such, which is


applicable to many daily tasks, hidden from


It is important to devise a cross-platform GUI library. Then a UI
builder can be written. Not the other way around. :>

I might volunteer to write a GUI builder if i appear to like the GUI 
library, which i shall not design myself, but will keep dropping 
"wishes" in. :>

For now i'm planning to write a "c-hea.d" utility, which does -- guess 
what! 


But i'll be busy for the next 2 weeks and won't actually start 
until afterwards. I first planned to do it in OCaml, but i think i'll 
rather stick to D.

-i.

Ilya Minkov <midiclub tiscali.de> writes:

Mike wrote:
For now i'm planning to write a "c-hea.d" utility, which does -- guess 
what! 


 I don't have the slightest idea


Convert C headers into D imports, so that existing C libraries and 
interfaces can be easily used.